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sopac said:
Without a doubt gains can be made, but there is NO way to go from those BEFORE pics to the AFTER pics in 1.5 years without gear.
Never Done Steroids, Looking To Do My First Cycle...????
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Without a doubt gains can be made, but there is NO way to go from those BEFORE pics to the AFTER pics in 1.5 years without gear.
weightaminute said:
actually, there was a thread a few weeks ago re: Breagan where every single bro who started very early said they should have waited. moreover, when guys that started early say they should have waited, that, to me, besides the sci eveidence, should be the most persuasive argument. if anyone would know, it is them. btw, i started at 39.
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eddymerckx said:
Actually I just watched a show the other day ... 20/20 or a similar show that had several doctors say there really is no conclusive proof that steroids cause long term health problems. Someone else surely watched it ... help me out...
At any rate ... I am not supporting the idea of adolescents juicing up. I am just saying that telling a person 20+ years old to workout for 5 years before using steriods .. is like telling them to not have sex until they are married. Especially when you see the results that people are getting.
It's easy to be a guy that says he should have waited. The fact is that none (or very few of them) of them did. In the grand scheme it's probably better to not take them at all ... so why do all the experience guys keep taking them?
weightaminute said:
i agree, there is scant evidence of long term health problems in adult men, however there is a mountain of evidence of what gear use will do if used too early.
perryscoon
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sopac said:
impossible.
needtogetaas
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I made a sticky a few weeks ago of a guy that made natty gains even better then blights. He posted before and after pics.eddymerckx said:
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The facts are still there. This guy can't keep gains with out aas. He is going to have a even harder time keeping gains after a aas cycle.
SORRY BRO THERE IS NO AAS IN THE WORLD THAT WILL HELP YOU KEEP MUSCLE ON ONCE YOU STOP USING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you can't keep reg gains.
So with that being said you need to learn how to keep reg gains before you can even think about keeping gains after a cycle. Thats the cold hard facts and fuck any one that don't like it. Prove me other wise. Some one any one prove to me that there is some cycle advice you can give this guy.Thats going to help him keep his gains after cycle. When he can't even keep his reg gains as it is? What supper aas advice to you think you have for this guy? Give him all the advice you like if you think you are doing the right thing. He will end up worse then when he started.
SORRY BRO THERE IS NO AAS IN THE WORLD THAT WILL HELP YOU KEEP MUSCLE ON ONCE YOU STOP USING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you can't keep reg gains.
So with that being said you need to learn how to keep reg gains before you can even think about keeping gains after a cycle. Thats the cold hard facts and fuck any one that don't like it. Prove me other wise. Some one any one prove to me that there is some cycle advice you can give this guy.Thats going to help him keep his gains after cycle. When he can't even keep his reg gains as it is? What supper aas advice to you think you have for this guy? Give him all the advice you like if you think you are doing the right thing. He will end up worse then when he started.
needtogetaas said:
i agree--the bro has a screaming metabolism (unlike mine which is about as fast a dick cheney can run a mile) and the only thing that will help him keep his gains is time. If i was in his position i would concentrate on core strength movement (deads, bench, squat) to create more of an anabolic environment.
