Need solid advice regarding comming off a long cycle

[tarek88]

Hey bros.
I would appreciate it if i hear more of a solid advice than criticism on my situation. This isnt my first cycle but a new experience i have put my self through. i have been on 500 mg/ week of Testosterone Eth for about 15 months now. i have went for a sperm count and results came up soo bad "go figure". mobility was zero and count was 100,000. Now i have two more shots left and im planning to quit. i have clomid and nolvadex in hand for PCT and i will be starting them 3 weeks after my last shot. Now my concern is im still 24 and i have read all over the net that infertility is not perminant and will take its take to recover. i fear perminant damage is prone to happen with such a long cycle with a moderate dosage. i would like to hear your professional advice on my situation and what is the worst i should expect.
Your help and support is appreciated

 

[ppgfreak]

15 months? Or did you mean 15 weeks?

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[tarek88]

15 months? Or did you mean 15 weeks?

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i meant months

 

[Tectime]

Hey man I too have been on tes/ deca stack for 15 plus months in doses from 300/200 to 600/600. I include hgc and anastroziole as a preventive. I'm 50 years old and blood work has always came back great, hot but safe levels. Everybody's body is going to react differently, but doses in those numbers def need preventive backup. Time and proper pct will/should help get you back close to norm sperm count,and at 24 once testes have to work for themselves, they will.

 

[tarek88]

any other advice
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[tarek88]

where does everyone disappear all of a sudden... Boys i need some feedback

 

[ppgfreak]

I'm here, I'm just not the best person to answer that for you. I don't want to give you bad advise bro

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[Amann418]

y did u run for so long?

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[tarek88]

y did u run for so long?

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wish i can answer that myself. hmm lets say experience since im not going all wild on dosages. i thought about it like this. Shut down is shutdown so so what long ass cycles can do.. Im just concerned on how much damage im looking forward too. if there is no perminant fertility damage then in my part i can handle the rest
anyone ?

 

[nelson_303]

Are you for real? 15 months? We need more info? Ok any other stuff like HCG or any AI or what. Any cycle support of any kind? Maybe a blast and cruise run for a while but? Just give us a better run down. Not just a vague question..

 

[dylangemelli]

where does everyone disappear all of a sudden... Boys i need some feedback

bro, its fucking fathers day and your post literally was up only 3 hours before you ask where "EVERYONE IS AT" come on man...


what have you ran alongside this cycle? I am not going to give you a lecture, im not your fucking dad, but what exactly do you expect here? you are setting yourself up to be on trt by running a cycle that length... your 24?? bro, fuck man... im not a doctor, i can't tell if you've done permanent damage or not but i would guess its not good... you need a really strong pct and i would run it a bit longer... GET RID OF THE FUCKING NOLVA... JUST LOSE IT!

Run clomid , unleashed/post cycle combo at the very least... i need to know what else you ran on cycle...

 

[metalfujimi]

I would run some hcg man. Should get you going again pretty quick.

 

[joeblow12345]

If you were going to stay on for 15 months, why did you stay so high? You should have blasted and cruised, but fuck it now. I would run about an 8 week pct, and start hcg now for 4 Weeks, then run hcgenerate for 4 Weeks. But its going to take some time for your body to get back to normal. I would do frequent blood tests to keep track of your situation.

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[nelson_303]

Did you do any blood work before this 15 months? Go get it done now. Just to know and have an idea if you messed something up. Listen to joe blow. I would prob do a 12 week pct. just to get back maybe towards natural.

 

[Tectime]

Like I said when I first answered, hgc and time should/will get you back up, your only 24, next time, al to start, hgc after three weeks, run thru your pct.

 

[tarek88]

bro, its fucking fathers day and your post literally was up only 3 hours before you ask where "EVERYONE IS AT" come on man...


what have you ran alongside this cycle? I am not going to give you a lecture, im not your fucking dad, but what exactly do you expect here? you are setting yourself up to be on trt by running a cycle that length... your 24?? bro, fuck man... im not a doctor, i can't tell if you've done permanent damage or not but i would guess its not good... you need a really strong pct and i would run it a bit longer... GET RID OF THE FUCKING NOLVA... JUST LOSE IT!

Run clomid , unleashed/post cycle combo at the very least... i need to know what else you ran on cycle...

first off lol. second i have been running test e for all that time with a maximum dosage of 500 mg per week. i have added tren E for 4 weeks only. Now i have Clomid in hand and got my hands on PREGNYL for HCG. What detailed PCT dosage do you reommend ? Thanks for your help. Any other suggestions will be appreciated. Happy daddy day boys

 

[dylangemelli]

first off lol. second i have been running test e for all that time with a maximum dosage of 500 mg per week. i have added tren E for 4 weeks only. Now i have Clomid in hand and got my hands on PREGNYL for HCG. What detailed PCT dosage do you reommend ? Thanks for your help. Any other suggestions will be appreciated. Happy daddy day boys

lolll sorry bro... =) anyway... for your situation I am going to recommend a bit of a different pct than i normally do... you definitely need to be getting 500 iu's a week of hcg... but i would run at least a 6 week pct bro... fuck, you may even want to go up to 8 weeks...

i would dose your clomid at 50 mg at least 4 weeks and then drop to 25 mg the rest of the way, whether you decide to go 6 or 8, that is up to you... i would definitely do the unleashed/post cycle combo and you may want to double dose it the first 2-3 weeks as opposed to just the first week as it recommends... i would also run daa as well... that should definitely be putting you in the right direction!

 

[C0LUMB0]

how many iu of hcg have you got ?

i am thinking you should gets bloods done before you start.

i would do 500iu of hcg EOD for 2 weeks, clomid @ 25mg for 4 weeks starting 2 weeks after your last shot.
hcgenerate starting now until the bottle is empty...if you have the dollars get 2 bottles and run them back to back.
UNLEASHED/post cycle .

get bloods done again after these 6 weeks and see where you are at.

Send needto a PM and ask him if he has a better protocol , and dont be surprised if he hooks you up with a nice discount on your pct

 

[zwhit]

be prepared for a long recovery. its not going to be fun

the longest I've ever gone is 16 weeks. I recovered fine but it sucked and really fucked with my head for a couple of weeks

 

[zwhit]

oh, and I'd get on some HCG ASAP, if you're not already on it. It can't hurt to give your nuts a head start. you don't have to wait until you're stop injecting the test, IMO.

 

[Tectime]

I run 500 ui of gonadotropin (hcg) 2x a week always the day before I take my tes/deca injection, as prescribed by my doc. My free tes levels remain as high as a 30yr old and man like I said I'm 50.