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[Rob29]

Ok so here is the deal... I am a 29yr old male. I am 6'8 tall, and weigh 280lbs...I recently went to the heart doctor and he told me my tri's are sky rocketed....so i am on the atkins diet....i was 290 2weeks ago and the diet is working for me. He wants me down to 260, which i am sure i can do but in the meantime i have been hitting the gym for about 4 months now and although i feel stronger and i see a little improvement in my toning of my arm muscles and chest, it just seems to be lacking something. My body fat count well lets just say the doctor says i am overweight. My goals are simple....cut my weight to his recommended weight but also get bigger, and stronger. A friend of mine that use's winny and Dbol stacked says that i should go with the Winny V tabs, now i did some research on this and found that they are the safer version of Winny and this is probably good considering my Tri's and Heart will probably be affected as well by taking them. Guys look, i am a dediacated guy and will do what i must to gaiin, but would like something to make me start seeing results fast....What excersis's do u recommend i do....I would like to work in my arms, chest , back and stomach, my legs are already in shape from lots of bike riding all my life....but i do have a major gut ...so can someone help me out there....Thanks in advance for any help.

What is T3 or cytomel as some say? Is atkins the way to go. My tri's are at 750. My good Cholestrol is very low...I just want to do what is right here...your help is much appreciated...

 

[overhead]

T3 is a thyriod medication, I am not an expert on the subject, but it basically speeds up your metabolism. Personally, the risk of messing up my thyriod is not worth the short term gain, but that is a personal choice, others here maybe able to help with that area.
As I posted before, I had a very difficult time gaining on a true atkins diet. But, I did lose fat very quickly and my blood lipid profile improved a great deal. Take in plenty of good fats to get your hdl up, fish oil, olive oil, flaxseed oil etc. If you are going to low carb it is important to find how many calories you are eating a day. The fats and proteins tend to make you feel as though you are eating more than you actually are. I much prefer a cycled low carb diet like CKD that allows for a one or two day *carb up* every week. Find a training program that works for you, there are a couple of good ones listed in the training stickies on the training discussion board.
This is just my opinion, but get your weight down, make sure your blood lipids are squared away, find a training program and diet that works for you BEFORE you consider adding in the drugs.

 

[sawastea]

Firstly, congrats on your first step, which is losing weight. This is a good forum and you'll gain valuable knowledge...Several steps you can do is: cardio early in the a.m., proper nutrition with high fiber veggies (i.e. brocolli), high water intake (1+ gallons a day), and 5-6 small(er) meals...EFA's are a plus

 

[Rob29]

Ok i have gotten good feedback and i was hoping i would...now since i see alot of you mention the CDK diet...i looked it up but not sure how to read it..(new to this) also what are EFA's i probably know but just those are the abbr. version for things i guess or could be wrong...I guess T3 is not my thing, don't like the risk. What or why do u call it a Cycled low carb diet, and in low carb, what does that mean, how low is low...only 20 carbs a day ? Training programs...hmm i guess cause i have no one to go to the gym with me and train, i have no guidance and i am looking at u guys here....6'8 260...u guys know my goals....what would u do....which traiing would u recommend for me considering my goals and my health risks ?? Should i eat alot of Veggies ? I do eat alot of fish and chicken to begin with ...I buy olive oil with no carbs....My cholestrol is not high but my good is low...you guys here are great, i really do appreciate this...i know i ask alot of questions here, but i rather do it smart than fuck myself up.

 

[overhead]

EFA's= essential fatty acids, they are consider essential becuase your body cannot produce them and you must get them through diet.
I am on a low carb diet and have been on and off for over 2 years. First, I have to say I am not an expert on diet, what I say is just my opinion from experience and reading. 20 carbs is the low point, meaning as far as I am concerned that is as low as you should go. 20 is a good number for the first two weeks or so until your body is fat adapted, meaning will use fat as fuel as opposed to carbs efficiently. After you feel you are fat adapted, meaning energy levels feel ok, you can up the carbs some. That is a personal thing, some can get by on 30 (like me) others need as much as 100 grams a day or more. That is something you have to experiment with. This is very important, you must get enough calories if you want to maintain/gain lean muscle mass while on a low carb diet. Currently I am trying to drop some fat and maintain strength so I eat about 14 or 15 times lean muscle mass in cals a day( lean muscle for me is about 165 or so, that comes out to about2100- 2400 cals a day), and so far I have been dropping about 2 to three pounds a week. My goal is to get 50%-60% or my cals from fat, 30-40% from protein, and about 10% from carbs. Keep in mind that each gram of fat has 9 cals, protein 4 and carbs 4. I carb up once a week. That is mostly a high carb/high protein low fat day. Some people do it differently , but that is what I have found works for me. I have heard you should eat about 3x body weight in grams of carbs on carb day. I use every other carb up day as a cheat day, meaning pretty much anything goes, pizza, soda's etc. Some do not do that, but it has not effected my weight loss so far. If I were you, I would try a diet like this for a month or so and then go back to the doc and get you blood lipids checked again. Keep track of how many cals you eat, and how much fat, protein carbs until you find what works for you. My goal is 2 pounds a week, yours is up to you. I am sure I missed something, hopefully someone will come along and add to/correct what I said.
As far as *toning* up, that is more of a matter of diet then weight training. You add mass through training, which can make you appear more cut, but it is really all about the diet. When I was focused on losing weight, I did mostly compound exercises like squats, deadlifts, clean and press, bench press, etc in the 10-12 rep range for four or five sets. In my opinion, compound excercises are also the best for putting on mass, but they also happen to use more muscles every exercise so they help to burn more cals. I lifted three or four times a week and did cardio three or four times a week.
I find it easier to focus on weight loss and maintain strength, THEN after you get closer to your goal, focus more on putting on mass. But that again is a personal choice. Hope this helps some, I may have just confused you more Good luck

 

[Throwfarther25]

don't touch the drugs buddy!
keep lifting and work on your diet and u will see results....

 

[Rob29]

Overhead....thanks for the advice...i guess my problem is that i always sucked at math and this is complicated....when i did atkins for the first time i saw drastic results in 2 weeks i lost 16lbs, but i was mad tired and straving....i understand about the carb intake....but u also said that each carb has 4 carl. and something protein...now being i am 280 but tyring to lose weight, how much protein should i eat ? How many cals should i eat ? i am sorry for buggin ya's ...this is just to set me straight....Ok no drugs...i hear you on this....so diet....and complex training...4 sets or 10 - 12...that is what i got so far. ...Can someone here put me on a training schedule or at least put me on something that i can follow for a few weeks...mind u , i am up early so i can do things in morning and i get home at 6pm at nite...

 

[overhead]

If you were tired and starving either you are not eating enough, or you body is not an efficient fat burner. My guess would be you were not eating enough. Write everything you eat down and at up the totals. What is you body fat? With that we can calculate your lean muscle mass and figure a calorie total to start with. And its compound exercises, not complex, but do not worry about that. The training discussion board has a sticky thread at the top the goes over a couple of programs. Read them over, decide which one you think you may like and give it a shot. If it does not work for you try a different one. There is also a sticky that has vids of every excercise you can think of, that might help also. If say you are 30% body fat, that would mean you currently are have about 196 pounds of lean muscle. You could start at about 2900 cals a day and adjust up or down to lose two or three pounds a week.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

Congradualations on your weight loss, and your decision to sculpt a better body. I recomend a CKD over the traditional adkin's as well for atheletes. After 4 months of training, drugs are total waste. You don't need them. In fact they probably won't even make a noticable difference. However, if you think your triglycerides were high before, hit a little winstrol and watch that 750 turn into 900 or 1000. At this point, you just need a better diet and a good routine. You'll gain a lot of muscle and should trim down just fine. Start looking at the t3 when you get down to 220 or 230 and can't seem to get any more ripped with diet and cardio. Your friend who says to stack winny tabs and d-bol could stand to do a little research on proper stacking & cycling of anabolic steroids. That is a piss poor stack.

 

[Rob29]

here is my layout on the CDK Diet...now someome help me understand this thing...lol


DAYBMR cal/day Fat grams Protein grams Carb Grams
1 3192 301 120 less than 20grams
2 3024 252 189 less than 20grams
3 2856 206 250 less than 20grams
4 3360 261 252 less than 20grams
5 3024 235 227 less than 20grams
6 2856 206 250 less than 20grams
CARB-UP
7 4368 49 218 764