need a lil bit of help - damn carbs

[jnef]

ive got self control (for the most part) but after my second 500 cal cardio session in the day, all i want are 329009839 carbs. whats everyone do to help curve the appetite. im runnning eca in the am, which helps alot, but cant take it late in the pm - so whats everyone use.

 

[jnef]

my bad - though i posted in diet section, feel free to move mods

 

[Tatyana]

Ok, I hear frustration, but your post is not clear.

Are you doing cardio after weights?

If so, then you need carbs afterward.

Losing fat is more about calories in-calories out, it isn't about whether or not you eat carbs/fat/protein.

Remember that for many, fat is still the 'baddie' as far as dieting goes, and it has been what everyone thought was exclusively responsible for people being fat.

Now it is carbs, same deal.


Just like fats, not all carbs are created equally.

Don't be carbo-phobic, they are not evil.

 

[jnef]

Ok, I hear frustration, but your post is not clear.

Are you doing cardio after weights?

If so, then you need carbs afterward.

Losing fat is more about calories in-calories out, it isn't about whether or not you eat carbs/fat/protein.

Remember that for many, fat is still the 'baddie' as far as dieting goes, and it has been what everyone thought was exclusively responsible for people being fat.

Now it is carbs, same deal.


Just like fats, not all carbs are created equally.

Don't be carbo-phobic, they are not evil.

sorry, ok ill try and clear it up

im not carbophoebic - and no fattie lol

ive got a 6 pack, but i really really want to cut up those lower abs.

so heres what ive been doing - lifting 3 days a week, with am empty stomach cardio

4 days a week, two daily cardio sessions

diet is all dialed in, went from 18+% body fat to 10% maybe lower on a good day

im on the sauce, with plenty of protein to minimize muscle loss

my pm cardio sesh is late in the pm, so ill just TRY and have a protein shake, electroites, and some fruit, but damn i am having some serious carb hungers after that second cardio sesh and i mean bad bad carbs, the crunchy kind

thanks for the reply tat

 

[jnef]

oh and i dont mix cardio and weights in the same session - cardio am and weights in the pm - being up this late isnt a regular thing either, i know it tends to lax my diet

 

[Beachboy6294]

sorry, ok ill try and clear it up

im not carbophoebic - and no fattie lol

ive got a 6 pack, but i really really want to cut up those lower abs.

so heres what ive been doing - lifting 3 days a week, with am empty stomach cardio

4 days a week, two daily cardio sessions

diet is all dialed in, went from 18+% body fat to 10% maybe lower on a good day

im on the sauce, with plenty of protein to minimize muscle loss

my pm cardio sesh is late in the pm, so ill just TRY and have a protein shake, electroites, and some fruit, but damn i am having some serious carb hungers after that second cardio sesh and i mean bad bad carbs, the crunchy kind

thanks for the reply tat

I am doing the same thing with cardio in the morning and lifting at night and sometimes even more cardio at night and it seems I get real hungry and want carbs at night. I think I am going to try and eat more earlier and see if it'll help lesson my wants later at night.

 

[jnef]

I am doing the same thing with cardio in the morning and lifting at night and sometimes even more cardio at night and it seems I get real hungry and want carbs at night. I think I am going to try and eat more earlier and see if it'll help lesson my wants later at night.

tried to eat more earlier, but problem is as soon as i hit a second cardio sesh, which is usually around 500 cals, all i'll want is something crunchy, i dont keep anything in the house but damn ive gone as far as stopping by a gas station ont he way homefor some damn cheetos - i dont even like cheetos!

 

[Beachboy6294]

tried to eat more earlier, but problem is as soon as i hit a second cardio sesh, which is usually around 500 cals, all i'll want is something crunchy, i dont keep anything in the house but damn ive gone as far as stopping by a gas station ont he way homefor some damn cheetos - i dont even like cheetos!

That is crazy I am the same way!! I usually do about 400-500 calories also and I just get this serious craving after!

 

[jnef]

That is crazy I am the same way!! I usually do about 400-500 calories also and I just get this serious craving after!

ephedrine/caffeine helps me in the day but i cant take that shit past 2 or ill be up all night - if i keep giving in to these craving, i think i may be better off dropping the pm cardio because i think its led to more cals in then what im burning

 

[Beachboy6294]

ephedrine/caffeine helps me in the day but i cant take that shit past 2 or ill be up all night - if i keep giving in to these craving, i think i may be better off dropping the pm cardio because i think its led to more cals in then what im burning

Yes I am the same way I have a hard time sleeping as it is so I can't take that stuff late. I am going to have to figure something out because I really don't want to drop my night cardio.

 

[jnef]

ephedrine/caffeine helps me in the day but i cant take that shit past 2 or ill be up all night - if i keep giving in to these craving, i think i may be better off dropping the pm cardio because i think its led to more cals in then what im burning

off to bed before these cravings come back

 

[jnef]

Yes I am the same way I have a hard time sleeping as it is so I can't take that stuff late. I am going to have to figure something out because I really don't want to drop my night cardio.

keep me updated if you come by something that works or looks promising- night bro

 

[jnef]

keep me updated if you come by something that works or looks promising- night bro

BUMP

 

[SouthernLord]

Try drinking green tea or take green tea extract through out the day. I have a cup or two between each meal. I brew flavored decaff and add powder green tea extract to jack up the potency. 1 teaspoon of the extract is close to 200mgs of caffeine, so it will jack you up. i stick to straight decaff in the pm, so I don't stare at the ceiling all night lol. This has helped me a lot.

 

[jnef]

Try drinking green tea or take green tea extract through out the day. I have a cup or two between each meal. I brew flavored decaff and add powder green tea extract to jack up the potency. 1 teaspoon of the extract is close to 200mgs of caffeine, so it will jack you up. i stick to straight decaff in the pm, so I don't stare at the ceiling all night lol. This has helped me a lot.

'i thought it was the caffeine in the tea that was the appetite supressant, but if the decaff works for you - ill have to give it a go.

 

[Tatyana]

sorry, ok ill try and clear it up

im not carbophoebic - and no fattie lol

ive got a 6 pack, but i really really want to cut up those lower abs.

so heres what ive been doing - lifting 3 days a week, with am empty stomach cardio

4 days a week, two daily cardio sessions

diet is all dialed in, went from 18+% body fat to 10% maybe lower on a good day

im on the sauce, with plenty of protein to minimize muscle loss

my pm cardio sesh is late in the pm, so ill just TRY and have a protein shake, electroites, and some fruit, but damn i am having some serious carb hungers after that second cardio sesh and i mean bad bad carbs, the crunchy kind

thanks for the reply tat

You lads have a lot of good advice, I have a few bits to add.

If you are having a protein shake, then you have spiked your insulin anyway, so that whole concept of 'no carbs = no insulin response and insulin response = no fat burning' is out the window.

Don't you have calories allotted for a meal after evening cardio?

A protein shake is not a meal, and it is thought that the body does not register liquid calories the same way as solid calories.

There is an interesting new theory that our bodies really don't know calorie requirement, but knows how much to eat by weight and liquid doesn't count in that. We didn't evolve drinking high calories liquids, and the prevalence of high calorie liquids especially fizzy drinks, is contributing majorly to the obesity crisis.

I train late at night most of the time, with cardio after weights.

I can relate to the freaking hunger after AM cardio, I just started again and it is BONKERS.

So crunchy carbs are my specialty

Very low impact/damage crunchy carbs

-Carrot sticks (I am not sure about the US but you can buy prepared carrot batons in most supermarkets)

- Celery (again, prepared celery hearts) - this could be considered a free food

-Red, yellow and orange pepper sticks

Really, any raw veggie, even brocolli or cauliflower, touch of seasoned salt and black pepper, lemon juice........(I just listed my favs)

Medium/High Impact

- Rice cakes

- Hot air popcorn - plain

- oatcakes

These can be quite more-ish, if you are going to destroy a whole tube of rice cakes, then only bring 3-6 with you

Evening meals:

Have a meal with you of something like steamed veggies, chicken and a carb like potatoes

These veggies are a big missing in most BBing diets IMHO, root veggies like baby new potatoes, parsnips, swede/rutabaga (this is so low carb it is ridiculous) or squashes (again so low carb, ridiculous).

These heavy foods you can eat quite a bit of really sort the appetite, and there was a research blob in Iron Man recently on 'Carbs that burn fat - like potatoes' as they are so high in resistant starch, a dietary fibre found in potatoes that resists digestion.

One study found that replacing just 5.4 % of total carbohydrate intake with resistant starch created a 20-30% increase in fat burning after a meal.

Dieting is ridiculously difficult enough, I am a big believer in making it as kind as possible, and also to develop dieting techiques that you can maintain into an off-season or lifestyle diet.

After getting too fat off season on more than one occasion, I prefer a diet that doesn't change dramatically and to stay as lean as possible all year round.

Which really, IMHO, is the idea of bodybuilding.

 

[GUARDIAN]

what is your water intake like during cardio?

i will drink as much as 32oz during cardio. when i wasnt doing this i was ready to kill the fridge and pantry.