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Nazi Eyewitness' warning to America: "Don't Let Freedom Slip Away"

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America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World. Don't Let Freedom Slip Away

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By: Kitty Werthmann

What I am about to tell you is something you've probably never heard or will ever read in history books.

I believe that I am an eyewitness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. We elected him by a landslide - 98% of the vote.. I've never read that in any American publications. Everyone thinks that Hitler just rolled in with his tanks and took Austria by force.

In 1938, Austria was in deep Depression. Nearly one-third of our workforce was unemployed. We had 25% inflation and 25% bank loan interest rates.

Farmers and business people were declaring bankruptcy daily. Young people were going from house to house begging for food.. Not that they didn't want to work; there simply weren't any jobs. My mother was a Christian woman and believed in helping people in need.. Every day we cooked a big kettle of soup and baked bread to feed those poor, hungry people - about 30 daily.

The Communist Party and the National Socialist Party were fighting each other. Blocks and blocks of cities like Vienna , Linz , and Graz were destroyed. The people became desperate and petitioned the government to let them decide what kind of government they wanted.

We looked to our neighbor on the north, Germany , where Hitler had been in power since 1933. We had been told that they didn't have unemployment or crime, and they had a high standard of living. Nothing was ever said about persecution of any group -- Jewish or otherwise. We were led to believe that everyone was happy. We wanted the same way of life in Austria . We were promised that a vote for Hitler would mean the end of unemployment and help for the family. Hitler also said that businesses would be assisted, and farmers would get their farms back. Ninety-eight percent of the population voted to annex Austria to Germany and have Hitler for our ruler.

We were overjoyed, and for three days we danced in the streets and had candlelight parades. The new government opened up big field kitchens and everyone was fed.

After the election, German officials were appointed, and like a miracle, we suddenly had law and order. Three or four weeks later, everyone was employed. The government made sure that a lot of work was created through the Public Work Service.

Hitler decided we should have equal rights for women. Before this, it was a custom that married Austrian women did not work outside the home. An able-bodied husband would be looked down on if he couldn't support his family. Many women in the teaching profession were elated that they could retain the jobs they previously had been required to give up for marriage.

Hitler Targets Education - Eliminates Religious Instruction for Children:

Our education was nationalized. I attended a very good public school. The population was predominantly Catholic, so we had religion in our schools. The day we elected Hitler (March 13, 1938), I walked into my schoolroom to find the crucifix replaced by Hitler's picture hanging next to a Nazi flag. Our teacher, a very devout woman, stood up and told the class we wouldn't pray or have religion anymore. Instead, we sang "Deutschland, Deutschland, Uber Alles," and had physical education.

Sunday became National Youth Day with compulsory attendance. Parents were not pleased about the sudden change in curriculum. They were told that if they did not send us, they would receive a stiff letter of warning the first time. The second time they would be fined the equivalent of $300, and the third time they would be subject to jail. The first two hours consisted of political indoctrination. The rest of the day we had sports. As time went along, we loved it.. Oh, we had so much fun and got our sports equipment free. We would go home and gleefully tell our parents about the wonderful time we had.

My mother was very unhappy. When the next term started, she took me out of public school and put me in a convent. I told her she couldn't do that and she told me that someday when I grew up, I would be grateful. There was a very good curriculum, but hardly any fun - no sports, and no political indoctrination. I hated it at first but felt I could tolerate it. Every once in a while, on holidays, I went home. I would go back to my old friends and ask what was going on and what they were doing. Their loose lifestyle was very alarming to me. They lived without religion. By that time unwed mothers were glorified for having a baby for Hitler. It seemed strange to me that our society changed so suddenly. As time went along, I realized what a great deed my mother did so that I wasn't exposed to that kind of humanistic philosophy.

Equal Rights Hits Home:

In 1939, the war started and a food bank was established. All food was rationed and could only be purchased using food stamps. At the same time, a full-employment law was passed which meant if you didn't work, you didn't get a ration card, and if you didn't have a card, you starved to death. Women who stayed home to raise their families didn't have any marketable skills and often had to take jobs more suited for men.

Soon after this, the draft was implemented. It was compulsory for young people, male and female, to give one year to the labor corps. During the day, the girls worked on the farms, and at night they returned to their barracks for military training just like the boys. They were trained to be anti-aircraft gunners and participated in the signal corps. After the labor corps, they were not discharged but were used in the front lines. When I go back to Austria to visit my family and friends, most of these women are emotional cripples because they just were not equipped to handle the horrors of combat. Three months before I turned 18, I was severely injured in an air raid attack. I nearly had a leg amputated, so I was spared having to go into the labor corps and into military service.

Hitler Restructured the Family Through Daycare:

When the mothers had to go out into the work force, the government immediately established child care centers. You could take your children ages 4 weeks to school age and leave them there around-the-clock, 7 days a week, under the total care of the government. The state raised a whole generation of children.. There were no motherly women to take care of the children, just people highly trained in child psychology. By this time, no one talked about equal rights. We knew we had been had.

Health Care and Small Business Suffer Under Government Controls:

Before Hitler, we had very good medical care. Many American doctors trained at the University of Vienna . After Hitler, health care was socialized, free for everyone. Doctors were salaried by the government. The problem was, since it was free, the people were going to the doctors for everything. When the good doctor arrived at his office at 8 a.m., 40 people were already waiting and, at the same time, the hospitals were full. If you needed elective surgery, you had to wait a year or two for your turn. There was no money for research as it was poured into socialized medicine. Research at the medical schools literally stopped, so the best doctors left Austria and emigrated to other countries.

As for healthcare, our tax rates went up to 80% of our income. Newlyweds immediately received a $1,000 loan from the government to establish a household. We had big programs for families. All day care and education were free. High schools were taken over by the government and college tuition was subsidized. Everyone was entitled to free handouts, such as food stamps, clothing, and housing.

We had another agency designed to monitor business. My brother-in-law owned a restaurant that had square tables. Government officials told him he had to replace them with round tables because people might bump themselves on the corners. Then they said he had to have additional bathroom facilities. It was just a small dairy business with a snack bar. He couldn't meet all the demands. Soon, he went out of business. If the government owned the large businesses and not many small ones existed, it could be in control.

We had consumer protection. We were told how to shop and what to buy. Free enterprise was essentially abolished. We had a planning agency specially designed for farmers. The agents would go to the farms, count the live-stock, then tell the farmers what to produce, and how to produce it.

"Mercy Killing" Redefined:

In 1944, I was a student teacher in a small village in the Alps . The villagers were surrounded by mountain passes which, in the winter, were closed off with snow, causing people to be isolated. So people intermarried and offspring were sometimes retarded.

When I arrived, I was told there were 15 mentally retarded adults, but they were all useful and did good manual work. I knew one, named Vincent, very well. He was a janitor of the school. One day I looked out the window and saw Vincent and others getting into a van. I asked my superior where they were going. She said to an institution where the State Health Department would teach them a trade, and to read and write. The families were required to sign papers with a little clause that they could not visit for 6 months. They were told visits would interfere with the program and might cause homesickness.

As time passed, letters started to dribble back saying these people died a natural, merciful death. The villagers were not fooled. We suspected what was happening. Those people left in excellent physical health and all died within 6 months. We called this euthanasia.

The Final Steps - Gun Laws:

Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long after-wards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

Totalitarianism didn't come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria .Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.

After World War II, Russian troops occupied Austria. Women were raped, preteen to elderly. The press never wrote about this either. When the Soviets left in 1955, they took everything that they could, dismantling whole factories in the process. They sawed down whole orchards of fruit, and what they couldn't destroy, they burned. We called it The Burned Earth. Most of the population barricaded themselves in their houses. Women hid in their cellars for 6 weeks as the troops mobilized. Those who couldn't, paid the price. There is a monument in Vienna today, dedicated to those women who were massacred by the Russians. This is an eye witness account.

"It's true..those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

America Truly is the Greatest Country in the World. Don't Let Freedom Slip Away

"After America , There is No Place to Go"


Nazi Eyewitness Warns America Not to Let Freedom Slip Away -Commentary!
 
"After America, there is NO place to go."

That's a good line

Whiskey
 
Just watched "Priest" and they kept repeating "To go against the church, is to go against gawd" sorta reminded me of the Natchies

Whiskey
 
No matter the place you fall on the political spectrum, you have the responsibility to argue and defend your point with logical, factual evidence.

That is not what Mrs. Werthmann has done here. These are the fuzzy memories of a girl that was 12 years old almost 70 years ago.

In her speeches, she talks about Austrians waiting hours, days, years for medical help after Hitler socialized healthcare.

You're thinking "Ok. Wait, what? Obama is doing that, too. Fuck! I'm going to be screwed out of good care."

No, because what Mrs. Werthmann left out is that before Hitler took control of Austria, almost 75% of its doctors were Jewish. When 75% of your doctors are taken out of your healthcare system, whether you have socialized or private healthcare, the public is going to have to wait...and wait....................and wait.

And what about her saying when they heard about how great Hitler-Germany was, "nothing was ever said about the persecution of any group - jewish or otherwise." Really lady? Because anti-semetic laws and sentiments had already existed around you for at least 20+ years.

Give me a breeeeak. Never believe someone just because they were there.

Also...lol @"After America, There is No Place to Go"...Bullshit.
 
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The signs are all here, plain as day... Hitler and President Obama exercised nearly identical agendas on these:

(1) Gun control: Disarm the public to remove the threat of a revolution as the government takes further control of us.
(2) Censorship/book burning (many documentaries on Nazi Germany have been removed from school libraries, and details of The Holocaust are no longer taught in public schools.
(3) Nationalized health care (a foundation to exterminate the sick & costly)
(4) Nationalized automakers (Hitler took control over Porsche and other German automakers in the 1930s)
(5) Wild promises of social funding and a rosey economy for all
(6) "Job creation" (Hitler ordered funding and built the Autobahns, and Obama put up the economic stimulus package)

I only pray that Obama doesn't hate any particular race or culture in America.

I have a friend who is a Holocaust escapee... He remembers it like it was yesterday, and he broke into tears when he told how he and his mother ran for their lives out of Poland, and holed up in a horse corral buried in a hay stack while the Nazi troops came through, then climbed out a window and got across the border into Czechoslovakia, and eventually onto a ship with the help of a Canadian rescue group . He has no clue what happened to his father or his sister...

Charles
 
The signs are all here, plain as day... Hitler and President Obama exercised nearly identical agendas on these:

(1) Gun control: Disarm the public to remove the threat of a revolution as the government takes further control of us.
(2) Censorship/book burning (many documentaries on Nazi Germany have been removed from school libraries, and details of The Holocaust are no longer taught in public schools.
(3) Nationalized health care (a foundation to exterminate the sick & costly)
(4) Nationalized automakers (Hitler took control over Porsche and other German automakers in the 1930s)
(5) Wild promises of social funding and a rosey economy for all
(6) "Job creation" (Hitler ordered funding and built the Autobahns, and Obama put up the economic stimulus package)

I only pray that Obama doesn't hate any particular race or culture in America.

I have a friend who is a Holocaust escapee... He remembers it like it was yesterday, and he broke into tears when he told how he and his mother ran for their lives out of Poland, and holed up in a horse corral buried in a hay stack while the Nazi troops came through, then climbed out a window and got across the border into Czechoslovakia, and eventually onto a ship with the help of a Canadian rescue group . He has no clue what happened to his father or his sister...

Charles
I also have a friend who was a Jew in Germany during WW2.

He often tells me that the spectre of Nazism used on the left or the right is utter bullshit.

"EJE, soon the feminist groups will indicate that Hiter was a man and put a ban on all men. Fucking wankers."

He had a way with words.
 
No matter the place you fall on the political spectrum, you have the responsibility to argue and defend your point with logical, factual evidence.

That is not what Mrs. Werthmann has done here. These are the fuzzy memories of a girl that was 12 years old almost 70 years ago.

In her speeches, she talks about Austrians waiting hours, days, years for medical help after Hitler socialized healthcare.

You're thinking "Ok. Wait, what? Obama is doing that, too. Fuck! I'm going to be screwed out of good care."

No, because what Mrs. Werthmann left out is that before Hitler took control of Austria, almost 75% of its doctors were Jewish. When 75% of your doctors are taken out of your healthcare system, whether you have socialized or private healthcare, the public is going to have to wait...and wait....................and wait.

And what about her saying when they heard about how great Hitler-Germany was, "nothing was ever said about the persecution of any group - jewish or otherwise." Really lady? Because anti-semetic laws and sentiments had already existed around you for at least 20+ years.

Give me a breeeeak. Never believe someone just because they were there.

Also...lol @"After America, There is No Place to Go"...Bullshit.

Actually, losing 75% of our doctors isn't realistic, but effectively losing 50% of them is entirely possible.

I'm watching physician productivity implode right now. Good friends of mine are leaving private practice and becoming physician employees. Once employed, there's no way they'll crank-out the RVU's they once did.

Then I attended a physician benchmarking meeting in Asheville around a month ago and the numbers showed a solid 35%-40% reduction in production. In all fairness, they did close some of the gap with physician extenders (PA's and NP's) -- but they are largely using extenders to improve their quality of life as opposed to improving their productivity.

Combine that with physicians who will refuse to take medicare/obamacare and those who simply don't enter medical school and it's entirely possible.
 
The signs are all here, plain as day... Hitler and President Obama exercised nearly identical agendas on these:

(1) Gun control: Disarm the public to remove the threat of a revolution as the government takes further control of us.

(2) Censorship/book burning (many documentaries on Nazi Germany have been removed from school libraries, and details of The Holocaust are no longer taught in public schools.

(4) Nationalized automakers (Hitler took control over Porsche and other German automakers in the 1930s)

(6) "Job creation" (Hitler ordered funding and built the Autobahns, and Obama put up the economic stimulus package)




Charles

1) Obama has barely touched the issue of gun control

2) How can you possibly associate Obama with censorship compared to other presidents?

4) Bush was the one who started bailing out the autos

6) Who the fuck doesn't wan't job creation

I'm not the biggest Obama fan either but get the fuck out of here if you are going to try and say he is like Hitler
 
1) Obama has barely touched the issue of gun control

2) How can you possibly associate Obama with censorship compared to other presidents?

4) Bush was the one who started bailing out the autos

6) Who the fuck doesn't wan't job creation

I'm not the biggest Obama fan either but get the fuck out of here if you are going to try and say he is like Hitler

+ a billion
 
Actually, losing 75% of our doctors isn't realistic, but effectively losing 50% of them is entirely possible.

I'm watching physician productivity implode right now. Good friends of mine are leaving private practice and becoming physician employees. Once employed, there's no way they'll crank-out the RVU's they once did.

Then I attended a physician benchmarking meeting in Asheville around a month ago and the numbers showed a solid 35%-40% reduction in production. In all fairness, they did close some of the gap with physician extenders (PA's and NP's) -- but they are largely using extenders to improve their quality of life as opposed to improving their productivity.

Combine that with physicians who will refuse to take medicare/obamacare and those who simply don't enter medical school and it's entirely possible.

I may be misunderstanding but so you're talking about current doctors in the U.S. Becoming less productive, not the U.S. actually losing that percentage of doctors, correct?

I imagine there's a big difference between losing 70% of doctors completely and losing no doctors, but having 50% of them not work productively. The doctors we'd keep are still doing more work at 60% productivity than the late 30's-early 40's Jewish Austrian doctors working at 0% productivity. No?

Regardless, my statement wasn't for or against socialized healthcare and what that may or may not do to medical productivity.

My point was that this story is conservative propaganda in that it's leading these people who don't bother to question her story's credentials to believe that we're in the same position as early Hitler-controlled Austria, and that is just not the case.

This woman leaves lots of important details out of her story to make it relate to scared Americans.
 
1) Obama has barely touched the issue of gun control

2) How can you possibly associate Obama with censorship compared to other presidents?

4) Bush was the one who started bailing out the autos

6) Who the fuck doesn't wan't job creation

I'm not the biggest Obama fan either but get the fuck out of here if you are going to try and say he is like Hitler

This. there's plenty of rational issues to take up with Obama (and obamacare) without going to the ridiculous extreme of comparing him to hitler. I can't even take this seriously for a second. This is like when he was first elected and people were saying he was the antichrist because he was charismatic.
 
1) Obama has barely touched the issue of gun control

2) How can you possibly associate Obama with censorship compared to other presidents?

4) Bush was the one who started bailing out the autos

6) Who the fuck doesn't wan't job creation

I'm not the biggest Obama fan either but get the fuck out of here if you are going to try and say he is like Hitler

I stated facts, and I said I hope he ISN'T like Hitler in that he better not use his charisma to lead the sheep to do evil, hurt, kill, etc... Leading us to being bankrupt is bad enough. I have never read or heard anything from him in support of gun rights, and he has made statements that he favors severe gun control laws (I added a link & quote below). I'll give him credit for not trying to re-up the assault rifle ban, which President Bush laid to expire. However, when I add up the statements by President Obama, I do not find in any way that he is in favor of the freedom of gun ownership. Just limited bits & pieces, and ultimately a total ban, is my guess. He just didn't want to lose the Rightwing anti-Bush vote.

Regarding the GM bailout, you are correct that it began it's infancy under Bush, but here's the article telling how Senator Obama pushed and pushed for Bush to do it, and remember that the Dems were as good as 100% in control of both Houses when that was done. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...neral-Motors-save-5-000-British-car-jobs.html

I'm the first one on this board to apologize when I make a mistake, and honestly I don't see any mistake in what I said. This is a situation where either side can bend things in the angle to their view, and you're as welcome to do that as I am, as long as we state facts.

Job creation is great, but who's gonna pay??? He's not making any effort to make it possible for companies and small business to expand or hire anyone. If he wants jobs created (which actually is a term that makes me laugh, since a "created" job in the literal sense means monkeybusiness or an unnecessary job in the first place). The only job's he's "created", are government jobs, as did Hitler. Make it feasible to build a business and make good money AND KEEP IT, and the job market will soar. It's been proven over & over again, but the problem is that people get jealous of the hard workers, and they demand too much, and the whole capitalism system breaks down. You can't have socialism and capitalism together, and the only ONLY reason why America ever was the country that it was, is capitalism. Mom & Pop borrow money and open a store, and sell goods... They hire a kid or two to help, and then when the mortgage is paid off, they hire a manager, who hires a bookkeeper, and they all make a fair living. Mom & Pop sell the store to the manager, and take the money to invest in a grocery warehouse.... The grocery warehouse partners then hire dozens of people and order trucks and hire contractors to build bigger buildings, etc etc... Enter the Socialists, and tax them up the rectum, and they can't afford any of that, and they give up.

And just for the record, my friend of whom I spoke in the first post who escaped Hitler's regime, says exactly what I am saying in the comparison between Obama and Hitler, as well as other socialist leaders. He and I both voted for other candidates than Obama (we didn't vote for the same one), but we both voted for Bush both times. I see that President Bush might live to be 150, and still get blamed for stuff he didn't do, and get blamed for good stuff he did which went foul under his successor. President Bush was probably in the running for the world's worst communicator, and Obama is one of the finest. Believe me, if Bush had been able to figure out how to speak, he'd be a hero today, even if he had done every single thing exactly the same as he did; just if he introduced it differently and explained it better. Obama speaks so well that he could sell us the Brooklyn Bridge easily, but he probably owes too much on it by now, LOL.... President Bush came across as a bungling idiot sometimes, but he is a brilliant businessman, and has the experience and skills to make the economy good. Obama can take a bowl of sh*t and present it as if it's gold, but I wouldn't even trust his business sense to mind a lemonade stand for 10 minutes... I'd come back, and it would be out of lemons, and in debt somehow, and a bunch of lazy welfare recipients would be sitting in the shade drinking free lemonade.

Charles

From Obama's campaign:
What is Barack Obama's position on gun control?


In an Illinois Senate Debate on Oct 21, 2004:
I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban.

In The Audacity of Hope (p215)
I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manufacturer's lobby.

In 2007 NAACP Presidential Primary Forum on Jul 12, 2007
We've got to make sure that unscrupulous gun dealers aren't loading up vans and dumping guns in our communities, because we know they're not made in our communities.

As quoted in From Promise to Power, by David Mendell (p.250-251)
I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry. This was a narrow exception in an exceptional circumstance where a retired police officer might find himself vulnerable as a consequence of the work he has previously done--and had been trained extensively in the proper use of firearms.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_Barack_Obama's_position_on_gun_control

With all that said, I will offer an apology to anyone who is offended by the mention of Hitler or the Nazi regime, and/or any comparisons between the German politics in the 1930s and the American politics in the 2010s. I apologize with the explanation that by completely suppressing any acknowledgement of the Holocaust or Hitler, we are WIDE-OPEN to another Hitler at some time.
 
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I may be misunderstanding but so you're talking about current doctors in the U.S. Becoming less productive, not the U.S. actually losing that percentage of doctors, correct?

I imagine there's a big difference between losing 70% of doctors completely and losing no doctors, but having 50% of them not work productively. The doctors we'd keep are still doing more work at 60% productivity than the late 30's-early 40's Jewish Austrian doctors working at 0% productivity. No?

Regardless, my statement wasn't for or against socialized healthcare and what that may or may not do to medical productivity.

My point was that this story is conservative propaganda in that it's leading these people who don't bother to question her story's credentials to believe that we're in the same position as early Hitler-controlled Austria, and that is just not the case.

This woman leaves lots of important details out of her story to make it relate to scared Americans.

I'm saying we are losing doctors from three sources.

1) doctors are retiring earlier and not entering the system at a rate to keep up with need.

2) the doctors who remain are less productive, because they are shifting from small business owners to company men on the clock (some of that is generational).

3) of the remaining doctors, some no longer take (or limit) Medicare/Medicaid patients.
 
I'm saying we are losing doctors from three sources.

1) doctors are retiring earlier and not entering the system at a rate to keep up with need.

2) the doctors who remain are less productive, because they are shifting from small business owners to company men on the clock (some of that is generational).

3) of the remaining doctors, some no longer take (or limit) Medicare/Medicaid patients.

One of my doctors has bought a house in Panama, and is moving her practice there... And my endocrinologist stopped taking any type of insurance or any public aid as of last year, and now is 100% cash on the barrel head.

And lots of luck trying to find an obstetrician in California... You might find a 29-year-old inexperienced Mideastern one, but that's about it. The experienced American OB's were run out of state over the last 20 years by freedom to sue for everything that possibly can go wrong; doctor error of Act of God.

Charles
 
To the people who don't know how to read between the lines, no one ever said Obama=Hitler.

The whole point of the article is to point out the fact that big government with a lust for power will destroy a country and its freedoms.

Christ. Do they still teach reading comprehension in public schools these days, or has government already taken that away too.
 
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I stated facts, and I said I hope he ISN'T like Hitler in that he better not use his charisma to lead the sheep to do evil, hurt, kill, etc... Leading us to being bankrupt is bad enough. I have never read or heard anything from him in support of gun rights, and he has made statements that he favors severe gun control laws (I added a link & quote below). I'll give him credit for not trying to re-up the assault rifle ban, which President Bush laid to expire. However, when I add up the statements by President Obama, I do not find in any way that he is in favor of the freedom of gun ownership. Just limited bits & pieces, and ultimately a total ban, is my guess. He just didn't want to lose the Rightwing anti-Bush vote.

Regarding the GM bailout, you are correct that it began it's infancy under Bush, but here's the article telling how Senator Obama pushed and pushed for Bush to do it, and remember that the Dems were as good as 100% in control of both Houses when that was done. Barack Obama urges Bush to bail out General Motors and save 5,000 British car jobs | Mail Online

I'm the first one on this board to apologize when I make a mistake, and honestly I don't see any mistake in what I said. This is a situation where either side can bend things in the angle to their view, and you're as welcome to do that as I am, as long as we state facts.

Job creation is great, but who's gonna pay??? He's not making any effort to make it possible for companies and small business to expand or hire anyone. If he wants jobs created (which actually is a term that makes me laugh, since a "created" job in the literal sense means monkeybusiness or an unnecessary job in the first place). The only job's he's "created", are government jobs, as did Hitler. Make it feasible to build a business and make good money AND KEEP IT, and the job market will soar. It's been proven over & over again, but the problem is that people get jealous of the hard workers, and they demand too much, and the whole capitalism system breaks down. You can't have socialism and capitalism together, and the only ONLY reason why America ever was the country that it was, is capitalism. Mom & Pop borrow money and open a store, and sell goods... They hire a kid or two to help, and then when the mortgage is paid off, they hire a manager, who hires a bookkeeper, and they all make a fair living. Mom & Pop sell the store to the manager, and take the money to invest in a grocery warehouse.... The grocery warehouse partners then hire dozens of people and order trucks and hire contractors to build bigger buildings, etc etc... Enter the Socialists, and tax them up the rectum, and they can't afford any of that, and they give up.

And just for the record, my friend of whom I spoke in the first post who escaped Hitler's regime, says exactly what I am saying in the comparison between Obama and Hitler, as well as other socialist leaders. He and I both voted for other candidates than Obama (we didn't vote for the same one), but we both voted for Bush both times. I see that President Bush might live to be 150, and still get blamed for stuff he didn't do, and get blamed for good stuff he did which went foul under his successor. President Bush was probably in the running for the world's worst communicator, and Obama is one of the finest. Believe me, if Bush had been able to figure out how to speak, he'd be a hero today, even if he had done every single thing exactly the same as he did; just if he introduced it differently and explained it better. Obama speaks so well that he could sell us the Brooklyn Bridge easily, but he probably owes too much on it by now, LOL.... President Bush came across as a bungling idiot sometimes, but he is a brilliant businessman, and has the experience and skills to make the economy good. Obama can take a bowl of sh*t and present it as if it's gold, but I wouldn't even trust his business sense to mind a lemonade stand for 10 minutes... I'd come back, and it would be out of lemons, and in debt somehow, and a bunch of lazy welfare recipients would be sitting in the shade drinking free lemonade.

Charles

From Obama's campaign:
What is Barack Obama's position on gun control?


In an Illinois Senate Debate on Oct 21, 2004:
I think it is a scandal that this president did not authorize a renewal of the assault weapons ban.

In The Audacity of Hope (p215)
I believe in keeping guns out of our inner cities, and that our leaders must say so in the face of the gun manufacturer's lobby.

In 2007 NAACP Presidential Primary Forum on Jul 12, 2007
We've got to make sure that unscrupulous gun dealers aren't loading up vans and dumping guns in our communities, because we know they're not made in our communities.

As quoted in From Promise to Power, by David Mendell (p.250-251)
I am consistently on record and will continue to be on record as opposing concealed carry. This was a narrow exception in an exceptional circumstance where a retired police officer might find himself vulnerable as a consequence of the work he has previously done--and had been trained extensively in the proper use of firearms.


What is Barack Obama's position on gun control

With all that said, I will offer an apology to anyone who is offended by the mention of Hitler or the Nazi regime, and/or any comparisons between the German politics in the 1930s and the American politics in the 2010s. I apologize with the explanation that by completely suppressing any acknowledgement of the Holocaust or Hitler, we are WIDE-OPEN to another Hitler at some time.


you implied that Obama is turning the U.S. into Nazi Germany using faulty examples, that is what you did wrong IMO
 
To the people who don't know how to read between the lines, no one ever said Obama=Hitler.

The whole point of the article is to point out the fact that big government with a lust for power will destroy a country and its freedoms.

Christ. Do they still teach reading comprehension in public schools these days, or has government already taken that away too.

The power=destruction thing is the surface.

The Obama=Hitler thing is between the lines. She likely doesn't actually think that, but she's drawing obvious, though errant, parallels between events in Nazi Austria and the current U.S. to scare her ignorant listeners.

You're naive to think otherwise. This woman speaks at conservative rallies and conferences around the country and works for the Eagle Forum so Lol @ thinking this spiel doesn't have a hidden "Obama is evil" agenda.
 
I learned about the Austrian anschluss in high school...a public high school; This is commonly understood.

Ummm...Catholic education was mandated in Germany...all secular schools were closed.

I started to debunk this but it isn't an argument worthy of the effort.
 
The power=destruction thing is the surface.

The Obama=Hitler thing is between the lines. She likely doesn't actually think that, but she's drawing obvious, though errant, parallels between events in Nazi Austria and the current U.S. to scare her ignorant listeners.

You're naive to think otherwise. This woman speaks at conservative rallies and conferences around the country and works for the Eagle Forum so Lol @ thinking this spiel doesn't have a hidden "Obama is evil" agenda.

The Obama=Hitler thing is obvious, because of course that's the first correlation people will make from an article like this. Like you said, she doesn't likely think that 1:1, but what better way to get a point across than to use an extreme backdrop like Nazi Germany in a cautionary tale sort of way about where America could be headed. Keyword: extreme. Socialism and governmental control being the focal points, not genocide and antisemitism.

The problem is most people are so self-absorbed with mundane bullshit that it takes a comparison like this (as extreme as it may be) for them to take notice.
 
the confusing part to me is that i figured hansel would be thrilled by the prospect of living in nazi germany

I've swung to both ends of the pendulum in the last decade. The middle is the only true, balanced path in life. :)
 
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