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My Thoughts on Yohimburn....

macrophage69alpha said:
Millie,

you may want to increase the carbs (at least a little).. some women experience low blood sugar effects.. perhaps add some fruits (little insuling response and good for liver glycogen as well)..

let me know if this helps.. otherwise we may need to attack this from a different angle
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Thanks again Macro,

this sounds like a good idea, I will give it a try and I will let you know how it goes.

The thing is that with my first bottle of Yohimburn, I wasn't applying it just to 1 area for a few days, like I am doing now. The applications were more spread out, something like day 1 - both hamstrings; day 2 - both quads; day 3 - glutes; day 4 - abs; then 2 days off and then the same cycle again. And I didn't get those side effects, but it took about 3 weeks before I noticed visible results. I decided to try a different approach this time and target 1 area at a time. Is it possible that I am just more sensitive to yohimbine when I get more of it in just 1 body part?

Well, I will increase my daily carb intake by adding fruit to my diet and see if that helps. I hope it does because with these targeted applications I am seeing results way faster :D
 
Millie,

It may be that continual use in the same bodypart, for some, may result in higher systemic levels of yohimbine, either due to saturation of the tissue, systemic build up or to A2 effects on blood flow.. ie when you apply it to the same area you get some systemic uptake from the second application and from the area where some remains, which is slowly being released(some reduced to 11-oh and some as yohimbine=more stimulatory/sides) as well, from initial application.

the fruit should help but if it does not we can look into designing a pattern for you that allows for more intensive use without the buildup.
 
Just applied my first application. Roughly 3/4 of a pep.
I was wondering what all the fuss was about when all of a sudden..... Awwwooo this stuff is icy hot!

I hope this stuff does the business. I've been dieting months and doing cardio, and I'm begining to wonder if I have ANY abs!

Come on Yohimburn show me what yo can do....!;)
 
Well, just got my 2 bottles. So, in 2-3 days I'll be doing:

1. 75mg in the AM and 75mg in the PM 5-on/2-off

For 4 weeks. Followed by:

2. 113mg in the AM and 113mg in the PM until done.

As your BF goes way down, more YOH is needed.
(This has been my experience).

I'm also going to test wether Capoten+Yohimburn is
better than Yohimburn alone.

In theory Capoten should let you decrease your Yohimburn
dosage, yet still let you achieve the same effect as
a higher YOH dosage.
Capoten btw, is an A2 DOWN-REGULATOR which is mainly
used for low BP.

Fonz
 
Fonz said:

I'm also going to test wether Capoten+Yohimburn is
better than Yohimburn alone.

In theory Capoten should let you decrease your Yohimburn
dosage, yet still let you achieve the same effect as
a higher YOH dosage.
Capoten btw, is an A2 DOWN-REGULATOR which is mainly
used for low BP.

Fonz
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Please try to keep us updated on how the Capoten works out for you. I've read the 3 or so articles about it in Dirty Dieting and have been wondering about it myself. The way it is explained in those articles makes it sound very interesting but I just wonder why no one has tried it yet. Maybe they did but just got no reports so that is the reason I've read nothing about it?

EngiCream
 
ulter said:
Fonz, where are you planning to use it?
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All on the hams, thighs and ham-glute tie-ins.
None on the abs. I have no need. My fat distribution
is just weird I guess.

Fonz
 
EmptyWallet said:
Just for the love of God Don't Snort it!!! Shit's like Rocket Fuel!!!:D
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I don't find it like rocket fuel, its more of an uncomfortable feeling. You don't know what to do with yourself. Just a unpleasent feeling in general. I won't make that mistake again.

M56M
 
Any problem with using Yohimburn with high blood pressure?

I know yohimbe is a no-no for high blood pressure.

Any sexual side effects as in regular oral yohime (all good)?

Dumb question, but I gotta know.

Fawn
 
If you put a real lot of it on like Fonz does then it will likely cause a raise in libido. To put it delicately. If you only use it as directed there is very little systemic uptake and you will not feel much in that regard. Also, it is not likely to raise your blood pressure like Yohimbine hcl will when you eat it.
 
M56M said:


I don't find it like rocket fuel, its more of an uncomfortable feeling. You don't know what to do with yourself. Just a unpleasent feeling in general. I won't make that mistake again.

M56M
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yeah i know what u mean, its hard to explain,,but it isnt like an ephedra rush
 
Question for Macro or Ulter

I posted this on the Women's Board, but thought I might get a quicker answer here -

I really, really wanna try your Yohimburn.

However, certain chems are a no-no for me because of drug interactions - especially topically. I am to avoid salycylates at all costs. The carriers in Yohimburn (aloe, especially) are off my dance card - but I was wondering about Yohimbine HCI itself. Is this extracted enough that no salycylates remain? I've been dying to try the stuff since I found a post Macro made on it a couple of months ago. Any idea if yohimbine HCI contains salycylates? If I can find it, I can put it in a carrier I can use, like lanolin or mineral oil. Do you sell straight yohimbine HCI.

This is a medical necessity - although I may be tempted to try it anyway - I'd rather not blow all the hard work I've already done recovering and NOT use a product with salycylates.

Any information would be much appreciated.

Fawn
 
yohimbine hcl does not contain salicylates. you can get yohimbine hcl powder from www.anabolicfitness.net

i will look and see what might be a good set of carriers in your case.. but... looking over the list ???

the page says that once you are familiar with your disease that you may introduce some salicylates to see if they change your condition. the peppermint oil may be OK. let me think about it.. will get back to you..
 
Macro,

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

You really know your stuff! You knew EXACTLY what I was talking about and what my concerns are. I am in complete and utter awe!

If you can think of a better carrier than lanolin or mineral oil, I defer to your good advice. I know I can handle internal salycylates now - and small amounts topically (face/neck). I've had some bad reactions to sunblock over large areas of the skin - so i think I want to wait another couple of months before I start experimenting with peppermint oil. I think I can use olive oil though - I'll have to check. Probably safer than peppermint even if I don't get the circulatory stimulation peppermint provides. Could do internal niacin at the same time?

I'm about 90% better right now - even able to workout again after being barely functional throughout the summer. So, I don't want to lose any ground here.

Thanks for the link! You are an ANGEL!

Fawn
 
Fawnmarie,

its a tough condition to deal with.. lets see what we can find to increase penetration(but choices are limited)..
perhaps we can find a non aloe based HMW polysacchride gel..
 
macrophage69alpha said:
you can get yohimbine hcl powder from www.anabolicfitness.net
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Hey macro, you mind answering this question?

Would I be able to have a doctor prescribe Yohimbine HCL powder? I ask cause I once saw in on the Walgreen’s (or a different drugstore site) but of course now I can't find it.

Would he be able to just prescribe say, 4 grams of the powder? If he would be able to, can you get it just at a regular pharmacy or a "compounding pharmacy"?

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I have looked elsewhere and found nothing. Thanks.

EngiCream
 
EngiCream said:


Hey macro, you mind answering this question? NO :p

Would I be able to have a doctor prescribe Yohimbine HCL powder? NO


I ask cause I once saw in on the Walgreen’s (or a different drugstore site) but of course now I can't find it. IT WAS PROBABLY YOHIMBE BARK POWDER.

Would he be able to just prescribe say, 4 grams of the powder? NO, IT IS PRESCRIBED BY TABLET If he would be able to, can you get it just at a regular pharmacy or a "compounding pharmacy"? NO, IT IS NOT COMPOUNDED.. IT IS ALL MADE BY MANUFACTURER.. IT IS NOT A COMPOUNDED ITEM.

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I have looked elsewhere and found nothing. Thanks.
YOHIMBINE HCL IS AVAILABLE AT THE SITE ABOVE.. YOU CAN ALSO GET IT FOR RESEARCH FROM SOME COMPANIES BUT COST IS COMPARABLE (IF THEY WILL SELL IT TO YOU)

EngiCream
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MB,

Well, the only "oil" I could find that's kosher for me is soybean oil. Is this of any use?

Am not chemically minded to know anything about the gel, but am prepared to learn.

There are some commercially prepared lotions and oils I can use - with these be sufficient - or would they just sit on top of the skin?

Would straight water be an option?

Fawn
 
fawnmarie said:
MB,

Well, the only "oil" I could find that's kosher for me is soybean oil. Is this of any use?

Am not chemically minded to know anything about the gel, but am prepared to learn.

There are some commercially prepared lotions and oils I can use - with these be sufficient - or would they just sit on top of the skin?

Would straight water be an option?

Fawn
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water is an option.. though not a good one.. there are some commercial preps that may be OK.. give me a couple days :)
 
how long does it usually take for all of the water retention to go away after conclusion of a yohimburn cycle??? Its been 1 wk and ahalf since conclusion of my yohimburn cycle and im still holding some water on places that i applied the yohimburn especially the face and pecs. I was jus wondering if anyone had an idea of how long it takes???
 
sonny,

what other supps are you taking?
how long since last DNP cap and last yohimburn app?
are you doing any cardio?
water intake?

apprx pottasium intake?

diet?

:p
 
macrophage69alpha said:
sonny,

what other supps are you taking?
how long since last DNP cap and last yohimburn app?
are you doing any cardio?
water intake?

apprx pottasium intake?

diet?

:p
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its been exactly 11 days since the end of my dnp/yohimburn 3 day cycle. I findthat i am still retaining a little bit(not a whole lot) of water on places i applied the yohimburn on...like my face and chest. my water intake is about 12 to 14glasses a day and im not doing any cardio at the moment just lifting and eating below mainternance calories. oh and im not taking any potassium or any other supplements for that matter.
 
sonny,

if you are in a hurry to shed the water..

increase pottasium (bananas are good)

get in a bit of cardio

tanning bed (this is great for sub Q water).. it seems especially effective for yohimbine related retension
 
Anyone know what the half-life for Yohimburn is inside the area where it was applied? In other words, how long does it stay effective in the area where you applied it? Instead of twice a day, I was thinking about half the dose applied 4 times a day. Lemme know.
 
Intramuscular said:
Anyone know what the half-life for Yohimburn is inside the area where it was applied? In other words, how long does it stay effective in the area where you applied it?
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not quite as simple as that. yohimbine it self has a very short half life (11 min ...at least when taken orally).. it is metabolised rather quickly in the contact of the right enzymes(though the high local concetrations will increase half life(once released systemically still apprx 11min). its metabolites have a much longer half life (10-oh yoh about 10hrs).

With respect to how frequently it may be applied to site without dimishing effect of prior applications.. 2 to 4. but four times may be too much unless exactly spaced and/or no "washing of site in between apps"... Ideally appplication should be at least 4hrs apart (preferably 6hr). This will vary on the speed of penetration and delivery which will vary.. but 4-6hrs will result in most of previous app being "delivered" (most important window of delivery is the first 1-2hrs).. this of course does vary depending on skin thickness, hydration, intercellular space, and several other facotrs........ more frequent apps MAY not dimish effectiveness if there is no "washing of site" in between apps. though you may get more systemic uptake (this seems to vary)

:p
 
Based on what I have been hearing, I will give it a try this spring on some problem areas. Thanks for the feedback bros! Nice to hear about a product that lives up to it's hype.
 
Ive been use'n it on my chest for a few weeks, and it hasnt done shit.... and thats just one complaint. Its also to damn expensive and its watered down. just my 2cents
 
NJL What are your diet and training like? Are you cycling or using any other thermos? What does your dosing schedule look like?Also, what does watered down mean?

P60 It is going to cause your body to release fat that it is storing no matter what. The more body fat you have the harder it may be to see the improvements because you are looking at yourself everyday so they aren't as easy for you to notice in a short period. That's why pics help. If I were you I would go without it until you get where you feel you aren't seeing any progress for a while and then use it.

I just saw your pics. You're ready.
 
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NJlinebacker50 said:
Ive been use'n it on my chest for a few weeks, and it hasnt done shit....
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NJlinebacker,

Went back and found your original post about yohimburn and why you purchased it. Yohimburn is NOT a treament for Gyno.. WHile it often helps with puffy nipples (though this varies) and it may help to reduce hard tissue size (over time and this a secondary and not direct effect) it is INTENDED for use to Increase lipolysis (fat loss) in estrogenic fatty pockets.

btw-If you have puffy nipples, it is often hard to tell effectiveness as there is often concurrent water retention.

peace
 
ulter said:
NJL What are your diet and training like? Are you cycling or using any other thermos? What does your dosing schedule look like?
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Maybe I was a little harsh with my first post. Its just hav'n natural gyno is get'n to me, it would be different if i did a lot of cycles but God wanted my TEST/ESTRO levels to be a fraction of a percent off. Maybe I was look'n for some false hope in this Yohimburn.... but my dose is half a pip on each peck twice a day. Its been two weeks and Im not realy notice'n any size redution, but my puffyness and the surrounding fat is softer, looser, kinda watery. Im not sure what that is but maybe Ill give it a few more weeks...
 
Boy talk about a thread generating responses...

Hey Macro I think Im closing in on your "How to eat more protein" thread.

Peace,
WCP
 
WHOA............

Im all laid-up with a torn ACL awaiting surgury.........havent been to elite in awhile and the first person i recognize is WCP........

damn.............this is a really old post...

Unity66
 
DaMan said:


And suddenly the world makes sense again.

Hey, check out the "carbo blockers from the 70s thread" up above, you prolly know the answer...
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???
more specificity needed.. there are many drugs that could potentially fall under this categorization... not to mention may drugs that have been pulled by the FDA.
 
does this make sense

Should get my liuidex this week. My show is not until 11 may. I figured that I would Get my bf measured right before I start it then measure again awhile after. give if a while to work then hit problen areas with Yohimburn. I just figure if I add one thing at a time I will be able to see it's full effects as opposed to using everything at once and not be able to see exactly how each product effects me.
 
BTW

I'm at 235 @9 %BF as of this morning. Following Crum's "Getting ripped while maintaining muscle" diet. Just found out that my show got pushed back from mid-apr to mid may. Also plan to compete in a NQ 31 AUG in Tacoma WA. My first and only show was the World Gym Classic in San Diego 17 MAR 01. competed at 188 lbs. Man I miss San Diego :( I'm F'n rambling now LOL
 
Quick question guys. I just started my Yohimburn this morning. I just did my 2nd application ( Night time ).

I am applying once in the morning, and once before bed..

Areas: Abs, Love handles, Pecs....

1/2 Abs, 1/2 each love handle, and 1/4 each pec....

At this rate, the bottle will be empty rather quickly, correct?

Will I have time to see results? I want to make sure I am getting results before purcashing another bottle, ya know?

Any other suggestions? Get back to me ASAP please! Thanks
 
Macro, did you ever determine whether using Yburn as the transdermal carrier for fina would work? Thinkin of using what i got left (bout a cart) at the end of the 8 weeks of bulking along with halo and maybe DNP.......Ill have to pm you or mail you about that one, ive been out of the DNP loop for awhile, i need to catch up on things...
 
bigrand said:
Macro, did you ever determine whether using Yburn as the transdermal carrier for fina would work? Thinkin of using what i got left (bout a cart) at the end of the 8 weeks of bulking along with halo and maybe DNP.......Ill have to pm you or mail you about that one, ive been out of the DNP loop for awhile, i need to catch up on things...
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It will work.. how well is another question?
l-menthol is quite effective with hormones as well(at least according to the lit.. cant speak from exp)

Fonz put together a possible method of formulation on AF.


but with hormones injection is always best.. but if you are looking for a "kick without the stick".. topical is a possibility.
 
Thanx Mac, i am looking for the kick without the stick. I already put 1-1/2ccs in each quad a week leaving me with a softball or a second teardrop in each quad. Im not to keen on injecting EOD or ED especially when i have to cook up my own shit. 5 pellets a day TD should suffice if i stack it with halo huh! Fucking rage.
 
Macro, mail........
It has to do with yburn, so you will like it!

Any news on human mitochondrial uncoupling protien yet or any other mad ass fat burners? Creosol?
 
All I can say is two words............"LOVE IT!! LOVE IT!! LOVE IT!!!"

I have had problems with ugly fat on my butt and the backs of my legs for years!! Not any more!!! This stuff in wonderful!!

But one word of caution.....if you are planning to have sex, do not apply before bedtime;) Burn Baby burn!!

Let's just say that Mr. Guns will never forget the tingle!! And we definitely don't want any fat loss where it ended up on him!!!!:p :p :p
 
And Just a side note, Macro: Anytime you need someone to do a promo or commercial for you, CALL ON ME!!! You can just see us all on a late night informercial!!! (I will ofcourse leave off the part about getting all over my husband during intercourse hehehehe)

I'll take another bottle of Yohimburn in payment for my professional services!!!:p
 
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Texas Guns said:
And Just a side note, Macro: Anytime you need someone to do a promo or commercial for you, CALL ON ME!!! You can just see us all on a late night informercial!!! (I will ofcourse leave off the part about getting all over my husband during intercourse hehehehe)

I'll take another bottle of Yohimburn in payment for my professional services!!!:p
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:D
 
hey guys ,i think i have some natural puberty gyno or maybe its estrogenic fat deposit behind nipple I NEVER DONE A CYCLE but i plan to in JUNE :( :( was wondering if yohimburn/l-dex can help me reduce it ? maybe

can i use yohimburn during my cycle??????
 
I am with Mrs Guns on this one.... the stuff is VERY COOL!

The results on my abs and little love-handle thingies were within TWO DAYS.... the behind and back of thighs I could see a definite difference in A WEEK.

VERY COOL (and tingly) THTUFF! hehehehee

THANX ULTER! BIG WET SLOPPY KITHES TO YA and ULABABE!
 
my cycle looks like this

weeks 1-4
sust @500 mg
eq @400mg
fina @50mg ED
winny 50 mg ED
weeks 5-7
sust @500 mg
eq @400mg
week 8-12
sust @500 mg
eq @400mg
fina @50mg ED
winny 50 mg ED
t3
clen
yohimburn


the first 8 weeks I am on a 4400 calorie diet
the last 4 weeks I am on a 2500 calorie diet and trying to lean up
I am planning to use yohimburn in the last 4 weeks, I would mind adding it into the first 4 as well but am i going to undo all the results that I would achieve. So basically should I hit up yohimburn twice or once?
 
what if I'm sweating?

I just started using this product yesterday, and had a few questions. I use it once in the morning and once at night, right bf my workout. About 1/3 each time. I do heavy cardio about 2 hours after I apply it at night, I sweat a lot during this time, has the solution already been aborbed into the skin by this time? I read somewhere it has a half life of 7 mins? Just want to make sure tho.. :D Also, it might have already been explained but basically how does the cream penetrate the skin? My friend asked me, and I didn't have answer. lol the smell sure is strong, keeps my roomates away from the 2nd floor where my bedroom is :D
 
macrophage69alpha said:


not quite as simple as that. yohimbine it self has a very short half life (11 min ...at least when taken orally).. it is metabolised rather quickly in the contact of the right enzymes(though the high local concetrations will increase half life(once released systemically still apprx 11min). its metabolites have a much longer half life (10-oh yoh about 10hrs).

With respect to how frequently it may be applied to site without dimishing effect of prior applications.. 2 to 4. but four times may be too much unless exactly spaced and/or no "washing of site in between apps"... Ideally appplication should be at least 4hrs apart (preferably 6hr). This will vary on the speed of penetration and delivery which will vary.. but 4-6hrs will result in most of previous app being "delivered" (most important window of delivery is the first 1-2hrs).. this of course does vary depending on skin thickness, hydration, intercellular space, and several other facotrs........ more frequent apps MAY not dimish effectiveness if there is no "washing of site" in between apps. though you may get more systemic uptake (this seems to vary)

:p
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Macro you mention washing of the site, is that bad? Or in what case is it bad like your were referring to above?? And if anyone cares about what not to do with Yohimburn, go here: http://boards.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=102686
 
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EmptyWallet said:


Macro you mention washing of the site, is that bad? Or in what case is it bad like your were referring to above??
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washing the site too soon after application is not good... but by 2 hours after application washing is of little consequence..


Some of those postulations above were based upon theoretical projections of uptake that have since been found to be skewed.

Though preferably WASHING should not take place until at LEAST 2hrs after application.

to answer UNREAL23's question
Sweating seems to have little effect on total uptake, other than increasing it.. though sweating also often leads to increased systemic uptake, which many find to be beneficial to workout :).

Also more frequent application as delineated above has been shown for many to cause a great increase in water retention.. 1-2 times per day is better both results and appearance wise.. from experiences of users..
 
macrophage69alpha said:


washing the site too soon after application is not good... but by 2 hours after application washing is of little consequence..


Some of those postulations above were based upon theoretical projections of uptake that have since been found to be skewed.

Though preferably WASHING should not take place until at LEAST 2hrs after application.

to answer UNREAL23's question
Sweating seems to have little effect on total uptake, other than increasing it.. though sweating also often leads to increased systemic uptake, which many find to be beneficial to workout :).

Also more frequent application as delineated above has been shown for many to cause a great increase in water retention.. 1-2 times per day is better both results and appearance wise.. from experiences of users..
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Oh Ok, I see now, yeah you wouldnt want to wash it off after you put it on!!! Anyway, I only put it on twice a day, and I wash before each application to get all the dirt and such off, and dead skin cells off. That should increase absortion right?
 
EmptyWallet said:



Oh Ok, I see now, yeah you wouldnt want to wash it off after you put it on!!! Anyway, I only put it on twice a day, and I wash before each application to get all the dirt and such off, and dead skin cells off. That should increase absortion right?
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YES


it helps if you use a loofah or body scrub several times a week as well

if twice a day dosing many people find better results with different app sites in AM and PM.. but some like to apply to same sites.. personal preferences :p
 
Be careful with that exfoliated area. If you put on a lot of Yohimburn you will get a real burning feeling that is much more intense than without exfoliating. Fitness Chick had to use a hair dryer on her legs, without the heat, to keep it from burning when she did this. But she uses a lot at once. So go easy with it until you learn how sensitive you may be.
 
first week

I've ued the gel 5 days now, only thing I haven't exfoliated my skin in that time period. Will that have a significant impact on the results? I intend to do it this weekend while on the 2 day off period. Another thing, since I apply it right after my shower I tend to sweat a very tiny bit during the application process. Because of this, I can never get my ab area to be completely dry after the application, it's not even close to damp, but does feel slightly sticky. Is this a problem? Is it supposed to be completly dry? I do see the crystals if that helps any. thanks
 
take a little MORE water and rub in... in some skin types glycerin will leave a slightly sicky residue (which seems to be what you are encountering)... wetting your hands slightly and rubbing in will help.. :p
 
I hate to add to this REDICULOUSLY long thread, but hey, this is the only way i can get Mac to give me advice.........JK

Anyway, got my yburn and will start next week. Was thinking of doing this........
In the AM i take a shower and exfoliate with a pumice stone while in shower. After i get out, i apply %50 buffered glycolic acid to exfoliated area. At night, before bed, i mix yburn with 100mg fina, apply, wrap abdomen in a neophrene wrap and go to bed.

Any problems with this, either timing of yburn application or effects of the Gly acid hindering effects of yburn?
ALong with 15oo cals a day and halo and Ripped Fuel extreme, i should get cut pretty fast huh....
 
Water retention question

I'm starting my 2nd week now, just want to say that damn! I definitely see results on my lower abs. I did have my doubts. but not anymore. Now for the question. if for the 1st week I only applied to lower abs, and for 2nd week I apply to love handles, will I be retaining water in my lower abs still during this week? Common sense tells me no, since the 2 areas are fairly close together, but was still curious. O and thanx for the tip about applying with water macro, it took me a while longer to rub in but it wasn't sticky this time. :D
 
bigrand said:


Any problems with this, either timing of yburn application
NO.. unless it interferes with sleep


or effects of the Gly acid hindering effects of yburn?

probably not.. it may actually increase total uptake (given its action on the stratum corneum) but cant be sure

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Re: Water retention question

UnReal23 said:
I'm starting my 2nd week now, just want to say that damn! I definitely see results on my lower abs. I did have my doubts. but not anymore.


Now for the question. if for the 1st week I only applied to lower abs, and for 2nd week I apply to love handles, will I be retaining water in my lower abs still during this week?
It MAY take at least part of the week for the water that you have from last weeks dosage to recede.. depending on dosage and individual retention.......It is less likely that you will continue retain water in lower abs....however.. for some people most of their retention is localized for others there is a more systemic retention of water.. and there is the issue of diffusion from the site .. so their proximity may be a factor in retention... but it is less likely that you will have significant retention

Common sense tells me no, since the 2 areas are fairly close together, but was still curious. O and thanx for the tip about applying with water macro, it took me a while longer to rub in but it wasn't sticky this time. :D
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:p
 
Well..
I have to say that I started using yohimburn last Thursday...On friday and saturday I applied twice a day.
I nitice I looked "swollen" even my hands and fingers. So I decided to apply once a day.
As follows:
Sunday: glutes and hams. AM 1/4pippete per bodypart
Monday: Tris and abs AM
Tuesday: Glutes and hams AM
and on and on......
ANyone??? would I be able to see results only with one application per day???
Also I am taking 4 pills a day of NYC. Spaced 2pills at 5:30am; 2pills at 11:30am. Should I add 2 more pills?
Please anyone get back to me one this questions...
Thanks!! :-)
 
esteveze said:
would I be able to see results only with one application per day???YES

Also I am taking 4 pills a day of NYC. Spaced 2pills at 5:30am; 2pills at 11:30am. Should I add 2 more pills?IF YOU CAN TOLERATE THEM, BUT IT IS NOT ENTIRELY NECESSARY
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:p
 
I just bought it tonight and cannot wait to use it! I am about 9% bf and cannot get rid of the very small amount of fat around my chest and lower abs. I have a very clean diet, train f*ing hard, using gh, winny and lots of cardio. Damn I hope this makes the difference. :)

Will report back after a few weeks. Macro... you rock dood!

Steele
 
Is there a good way to dissolve the fina in the yburn? Maybe microwaveing it or something cuz i cant get the fina to a good enough powder, it is still somewhat chunky and stays on the skin. Feels like sand or something.
 
you can dissolve fina in alcohol(everclear pref, but since you are in cali, vodka).. apply alcohol solution.. it ok if it is grainy, actually better as it will cause micro cuts in skin (good for systemic uptake).. then apply your penetration enhancer.. in this case yohimburn.
 
Will isopropanol due?

As far as the grainyness, i just dont want it to fall off as im rubbing it on (the neophrene holds it on AFTER its been applied).

Thanx
 
bigrand said:
Will isopropanol due?

As far as the grainyness, i just dont want it to fall off as im rubbing it on (the neophrene holds it on AFTER its been applied).

Thanx
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isopropanol is more toxic, but it will "do".. the grainyness is just binders and fillers.. if they fall of you are not losing tren.
 
Can someone tell me if there are any potential side effects from this like high blood pressure, increased heart rate, etc. Thanks for any help.
 
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