I don't mean to cut across your thread crim, but to stevemi your right about the whole foods instead of shakes, and we all know how hard it Is to consume that much pro/carbs ( fats easy) in a 24 hr period, and I won't comment on rc or anybody else's juice use, but if crim will set his sights on those numbers ( reach high the higher you can go) he should be able to up his intake to the point his body can handle. I take hgh every day when on cycle( h is the only cycle for me everything else is blast and cruise for me and yes it's under dr supervision) but if crim ever really wants to go for his pro card he's really gonna have to up those carbs a shit load. You know ( I can tell from your posts, you're well versed in this) that carbs are the fuel,juice starts the engine food fuels the fire, 150 to 300 carbs even good complex carbs, you're driving a go cart, get up over 600 your driving a train!
Not to hijack, and I agree with the amount of mass you can build with 600g carbs a day but I can't see how the body can use that even on aas without exogenus insulin manipulation.? I'm not arguing with you just wondering how its possible without adding a lot of body fat.