I don't know if this is a joke thread or not. But if you are serious, muscletech products are way over hyped. Lee Priest did not even take that shit. He like most other pro bodybuilders are on the real stuff. Those so called subjects that made those great gains had more than just muscletech supplements. These guys on here are just messin with ya. Its sad though, young kids fall for this crap all of the time. Thinking they will be huge in no time at all. Also you do not need to be touching the gear for at least until you are 21 and have a few years of lifting under your belt. Just keep your diet clean and use the freeweights mainly to make most of your routine based on compound movements. You will get there. It just takes time.