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KA-BAR

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I think I finally talked my girl into letting me get one. My best friend got killed one one about 10 years ago and I know they are dangerous but I really want one badly. She told me if she can get a brand new Trail blazer I can get one. lol WEll She needs a new vehicle anyway so it’s on.

Here is my problem. I do not know if I want a cruiser or a sport bike. I am really torn here. I like to chill and cruise around but I also like to have some power from time to time. I am not the type to race around like a madman I just like to have the power and open it up from time to time.

I really do not like Harleys. If my friends heard me say that they would kill me but I just think they are nothing but noise makers. Junk, no balls and way overpriced. If I get a cruiser I was thinking about a Honda Magna, Goldwing or something like that. Sport bike I was thinking along the lines of an R1. I do not have a lot of experience but IT will not take me long to catch on. Some guys tell me a 600 would be too small for me and I should go with a 1000 but the price difference is crazy. I only want to spend about $3-5k on one.
 
if you got the dough, harley fat boy or low rider. but that's just me :)

a 1200 sportster has some guts but is kinda small for a big guy, but again is a harley

i don't know much about sport bikes
 
depends on your size..if your over 6 foot..i would not buy a 600...youll out grow it with experience and be pissed......
 
Almost 6' 2" and others have told me this exact same thing. Now I am really screwed up on what to get. Should I just go with the R1 then and be done with it?

Dev most of my friends have 20-50k dollar harleys but they are not me at all. I ask them what the big deal about Harleys are. They say American blah blah. IMO everything is international now. They cannot give me a good reason why Harley. A few have said look at the girls. I have seen many hot chicks on sports bikes.

Reasons why I will not get a harley.

1. To loud
2. To expensive.
3. To slow.
4. All my buddies do is rub on them all day keeping them clean. I do not have time for that. I just want to spray my bike off and ride. lol I do not need a ton of chrome.



jrc04444 said:
depends on your size..if your over 6 foot..i would not buy a 600...youll out grow it with experience and be pissed......
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R1 is def the bike to get..but you wont find one in your budget....i just sold my bike...had an 02 Honda CBR 954RR.....balls to the wall fast....had it up to 153mph.....best feeling in the world....
 
jrc04444 said:
depends on your size..if your over 6 foot..i would not buy a 600...youll out grow it with experience and be pissed......
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BULLSHIT. How does being 6 feet tall have ANYTHING to do with what size bike you get?

Secondly, how many street riders are capable of pushing a 600 to it's limits and are disappointed, wanting more? The ONLY thing you're going to get out of a liter bike as opposed to a 600 is more acceleration, and even on a 600 you can walk away from over 95% of the cars on the road.


KA-BAR - You're not going to find an R1 for that price unless it's one of the first model years. If you are undecided between sport and cruiser, look for a sport tourer. SV650 and VFR are the first 2 bikes that come to mind. Comfortable, yet able to hug the turns quite well. If you want to go with a sport bike, look for mid 90s 600cc bikes, something you won't be heartbroken over if you put it down. That's going to be in your price range as well.

Learn to ride on the street, take an MSF course or two, decide if you like it or not. The largest I'd go if I were you is a GSXR 750, and definetly mid-90s, nothing newer. You have dirt experience, so that's going to be a big bonus. I've ridden dirt here and there and I've ridden street. There is a big difference between them. The basics are the same, but on dirt you like kicking the ass end out a foot or two, whereas on street that could spell road rash.

Good luck finding a bike you like. Wear your gear too, full leather and a helmet at all times. Going down isn't fun.
 
crak600 said:
BULLSHIT. How does being 6 feet tall have ANYTHING to do with what size bike you get?

Secondly, how many street riders are capable of pushing a 600 to it's limits and are disappointed, wanting more? The ONLY thing you're going to get out of a liter bike as opposed to a 600 is more acceleration, and even on a 600 you can walk away from over 95% of the cars on the road.


KA-BAR - You're not going to find an R1 for that price unless it's one of the first model years. If you are undecided between sport and cruiser, look for a sport tourer. SV650 and VFR are the first 2 bikes that come to mind. Comfortable, yet able to hug the turns quite well. If you want to go with a sport bike, look for mid 90s 600cc bikes, something you won't be heartbroken over if you put it down. That's going to be in your price range as well.

Learn to ride on the street, take an MSF course or two, decide if you like it or not. The largest I'd go if I were you is a GSXR 750, and definetly mid-90s, nothing newer. You have dirt experience, so that's going to be a big bonus. I've ridden dirt here and there and I've ridden street. There is a big difference between them. The basics are the same, but on dirt you like kicking the ass end out a foot or two, whereas on street that could spell road rash.

Good luck finding a bike you like. Wear your gear too, full leather and a helmet at all times. Going down isn't fun.
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listen to this guy if you want....and let me know if 3 months after you buy a bike who was right.....
 
jrc04444 said:
depends on your size..if your over 6 foot..i would not buy a 600...youll out grow it with experience and be pissed......
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i agree more power is better

but insurance on those things will kill you

make sure you get insurance quotes before u do anything bro
 
I wouldn't buy anything less than a 900 or 1000. I bought a CBR600 and I was ready for a bigger bike in a month. I'm a big fan of GSXR 1000 but truthfully, most sportbikes are about the same.
 
Ready for a bigger bike in a month? 600 too small? What do you people do, keep it going in a straight line all day long? I'd like to see any one of you ride a 600 to it's limits on the street or even the track. If you really are, I guess you must be Miguel Duhamel.

I've kept up with liter class bikes on backroads. The only thing they had over me was they were able to get out of the turns faster, but going into every single turn I was up their asses wishing they'd go faster. If you're not having fun on a 600, you aren't riding it hard enough.

An excellent rider on an EX500 will ride circles all day around an average rider on a GSXR1k, R1, or 1000RR.
 
Thanks for help fellows. going to do good bit more reasearch first. Read what this guy says in the description. Says he is getting rid of the 650 for something bigger. lol I do not know what to think. I think a 600 will have enough power for me but I am just worried It will not be as comfortable as an R1 I am checking into some the the bikes you have mentioned crack.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...ry=50034&item=4550715316&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
 
Something inbetween a sportbike and a harley? Take a look at the metric cruisers, Yamaha Warrior or the Honda VTX to name two. Inexpensive good performers and more comfortable for taller peeps then a sportbike.
 
KA-BAR said:
Thanks for help fellows. going to do good bit more reasearch first. Read what this guy says in the description. Says he is getting rid of the 650 for something bigger. lol I do not know what to think. I think a 600 will have enough power for me but I am just worried It will not be as comfortable as an R1 I am checking into some the the bikes you have mentioned crack.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/e...ry=50034&item=4550715316&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
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As far as comfort, it's really going to depend on the bike manufacturer, not the size of the bike. They're all so close in size that it's mainly the placement of the pegs, clipons, and seat height that's going to make a difference in your comfort level.

A friend of mine, right about 6' tall, had an F3 and he was comfortable on the bike. In comparison, my F4 was a bit more aggressive riding position. He then got a 929 and that was a slightly more aggressive seating position. GSXRs seem to have the most aggressive, which could cramp up taller riders a bit quicker. Hondas, to me, have always felt the most comfortable. You sacrifice a bit in your body positioning but it makes riding longer distances easier.

The SV should be more comfortable than a full blown sport bike, yet still handle great and have quite a bit of power. I'll read the auction later.

Yes, you're correct, 600s have plenty of power. The newer ones are putting down over 100hp on a sub 400lb chassis. 1hp per 4lbs is an amazing power to weight ratio. Even the older ones that are putting down 80-90hp and coming in around 420-440lbs is still a lot of power to weight.

I'm sure PBR will make his way into this thread sooner or later. He's been riding a long ass time and he'll have some good advice as well.
 
whoever said that after 3 months of riding a 600 youll wish you bought an R1.

bullshit.

even people who have been riding for years cant push a 600 to its limits enough on the street to garner buying an R1.

plus if you spend all that $$ on an R1, just to dump it... you will not be a happy camper.

oh and the size difference... fucking stupid ass... it is so slight the fact that you are 6 foot on an R6 or an R1 wont make a lick of difference...

these are the types of people that tell a shitty golfer if he buys the best golf clubs he will be a better golfer.

someone prevent him from procreating.
 
patsfan1379 said:
whoever said that after 3 months of riding a 600 youll wish you bought an R1.

bullshit.

even people who have been riding for years cant push a 600 to its limits enough on the street to garner buying an R1.

plus if you spend all that $$ on an R1, just to dump it... you will not be a happy camper.

oh and the size difference... fucking stupid ass... it is so slight the fact that you are 6 foot on an R6 or an R1 wont make a lick of difference...

these are the types of people that tell a shitty golfer if he buys the best golf clubs he will be a better golfer.

someone prevent him from procreating.
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I'm sorry....how the fuck does me saying that I would have bought a bigger bike warrant you being a prick?
 
i wasnt talking to you. read my post. i was talking to the guy who said if the kid bought an R6 he would regret it in three months.
 
patsfan1379 said:
i wasnt talking to you. read my post. i was talking to the guy who said if the kid bought an R6 he would regret it in three months.
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He also urged to buying something larger than a 600, so yeah, you were talking to him too.

Don't worry though, it seems KA-BAR is already looking around the 600cc size. Smart man.
 
Have you looked into the Suzuki SV650? It's a V-twin naked bike, but you can get the S model with more plastic. They are very comfortable to ride, they make great track bikes (if you ever want to race) and they have more than enough power.
 
yawn....<sigh>....are we done yet??????
IMO, K-BAR stay off a Liter bike just yet, please....Previous motorcycle posts are easy to look up and we went into depth about 600cc and 1000cc bikes and everything in between....pick something realitively easy to get used to and ride, one that has a good re-sale value and is very popular and easy to sell quickly while getting youre feet wet on the street...then make a descision on what kind of riding suits you...jumping from "ZERO" to a full tilt liter race replica is not wise IMO...thats my .02
 
dirty~d~ said:
Have you looked into the Suzuki SV650? It's a V-twin naked bike, but you can get the S model with more plastic. They are very comfortable to ride, they make great track bikes (if you ever want to race) and they have more than enough power.
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~D~ you just like everything naked dont you???? ;)
 
Since you have owned dirt bikes in the past, you will be good to go on pretty much anything, but no way are you not going to have enough power with a modern 600 - whether the R6 or a CBR, you on't even come close to using the bike's potential on the street.

Comfort on either of those? Forget it...

Look into a Honda VFR, or eve n a Katana 600-750. An R1 is overkill, but if you want it, go nuts - expensive and uncomfortable, but very fast.


Bluesman
 
I'm not trying to hijack the post, but all this arguing has led me to say this: If you do decide to go with a sport bike the type of bike won't matter very much because of your height. All major models are nearly the same height. Just cause a bike has a bigger engine doesn't mean it's taller. Since you are not worried about a top speed and because of the price limitations, I'd go with a 95 to 2000 Honda CBR .If you get a new 600 bike, I'd go with a Yamaha R6. I just wanted to get my opinion in there on that last comment.
 
KA-BAR said:
I think I finally talked my girl into letting me get one. My best friend got killed one one about 10 years ago and I know they are dangerous but I really want one badly. She told me if she can get a brand new Trail blazer I can get one. lol WEll She needs a new vehicle anyway so it’s on.

Here is my problem. I do not know if I want a cruiser or a sport bike. I am really torn here. I like to chill and cruise around but I also like to have some power from time to time. I am not the type to race around like a madman I just like to have the power and open it up from time to time.

I really do not like Harleys. If my friends heard me say that they would kill me but I just think they are nothing but noise makers. Junk, no balls and way overpriced. If I get a cruiser I was thinking about a Honda Magna, Goldwing or something like that. Sport bike I was thinking along the lines of an R1. I do not have a lot of experience but IT will not take me long to catch on. Some guys tell me a 600 would be too small for me and I should go with a 1000 but the price difference is crazy. I only want to spend about $3-5k on one.
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Harley's aren't for everyone, but I always have and always will ride a Harley. They are noise makers, and they are music to my ears. There was a time when Harley had some mechanical problems, but that time is past. I know dozens of guys who ride Harleys and they seldom have problems with their bikes. As far as price, a bike is worth whatever people are willing to pay. If Honda or Yamaha could sell their bikes for the same price Harley does, then they would. Most of the people I know who ride Harleys are not rich, they would rather have a nice bike than a new car or big house, it's a matter of priority. I started out with a used Harley, I never considered a new Harley lookalike bike. Harley's also hold their value. You may pay alot for a Harley, but you can sell it for alot if you choose. If you are mainly into speed or ride casually, then a Harley isn't the best option. If you are a 24/7 biker who leans toward the 1%er lifestyle, then you will more than likely end up with a Harley.
 
PBR said:
~D~ you just like everything naked dont you???? ;)
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What's wrong with naked? It gets to the point. ;) :qt:
 
[email protected] said:
I'm not trying to hijack the post, but all this arguing has led me to say this: If you do decide to go with a sport bike the type of bike won't matter very much because of your height. All major models are nearly the same height. Just cause a bike has a bigger engine doesn't mean it's taller. Since you are not worried about a top speed and because of the price limitations, I'd go with a 95 to 2000 Honda CBR .If you get a new 600 bike, I'd go with a Yamaha R6. I just wanted to get my opinion in there on that last comment.
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On the CBR side, I'd say 92-98, I wouldn't go as far as 99. I have a 99F4 and it feels a bit more "intimidating" than the F3. Everything was stepped up a notch between the F3 and F4 - suspension, steering, brakes - all are stiffer. The riding position is a bit more aggressive and it's a little harder to tuck down below the windscreen. It remains true to the CBR600 line in that it is a very managable bike, you can change lines in a turn on a dime if need be without any fear of the bike arguing and it's a bit more relaxed than other 600s, yet just as capable.

However, with everything being stiffer on the F4, a newer street rider might hesitate a bit more to kick it over for a turn, which is something you do not want. With the F3 feeling a little bit "lazier," you're more willing to lean it over and get into the turns, and a new street rider will appreciate that more while learning.

The F3 is just as capable as the F4 on the street for any street rider. They are not far off at all in terms of what they can do. I've heard a lot of people recommending F2s as well, and some still seek them out specifically for racing in amature classes.


On the harley side of things, it's just a personal preference for some people. A friend of mine got his 87 or 88 883 Sportster from his dad (dad bought a Wide Glide and didn't want to sell the Sportster). His dad had it for many years without many problems, but on a trip to Sturgis he began having head problems and had to turn around halfway in. That Sportster has had 3 engine rebuilds since then, and it's bored and stroked around 1300cc now. It's had more problems since the first rebuild than it ever had before, although some of that can be chalked up to a shitty builder the first 2 times.

My buddy isn't a die hard harley rider though, and he's considered quite a few times selling the Sportster and picking up a large Japanese cruiser or even moving to a sport bike. The problems he's had with his and problems he's seen friends and his dad's friends have with their Harleys have pushed him to the point that he'll probably never buy another Harley. He's a mechanic so there's plenty of things he can do himself, but he can't stand having to work on the bike when he should be out riding.

He once asked me who would win if we ran head to head off of a dead stop. I told him that he'd have an advantage from 0-35mph. After that, he'd be shifting into 3rd and I'd be making enough power in 1st gear to walk away from him.

Harleys aren't meant to be fast, but I've heard more than a few riders complain of the vibration and high revs when going 75-85 on the highway for long durations. It takes a massive toll on most people after a while, more than just the long ride would. I ran into a guy on a long trip once, we crossed paths in Texas. His speedo cable had broken, so he asked me how fast we were going when he came up on me (I fell in line right behind him for about 1/2 hour, then we pulled over for gas). We had been moving a steady 95mph. He said he just got on the bike and kept revving until it smoothed out enough that the vibration wasn't killing him, and 70-75 was horrible. He had a stack of tickets already, and I'm sure he picked up more after we parted ways.
 
Yea from the factory I guess they are not as high but a handful of my buddies change them around so much its insane. One of my best friends paid $15,000 for a paint job!!! That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. He also paid $1000 for a carburetor! He has nitro and all other bullshit. It might be worth a lot more than 50k. I have no idea but I am pretty sure he said its $50,000 something. He as about 10 -15 trophies from shows he goes to. He wins just about everyone he goes to. Those guys are freaks.



curling said:
A $50k Harley? The highest price one I have seen is the screaming eagle 103s around mid $30s.
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KA-BAR said:
Yea from the factory I guess they are not as high but a handful of my buddies change them around so much its insane. One of my best friends paid $15,000 for a paint job!!! That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of. He also paid $1000 for a carburetor! He has nitro and all other bullshit. It might be worth a lot more than 50k. I have no idea but I am pretty sure he said its $50,000 something. He as about 10 -15 trophies from shows he goes to. He wins just about everyone he goes to. Those guys are freaks.
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Oh ok. Yea, you can go as crazy as your wallet will let ya. I will have about $45 in my chopper once I get it delivered from Bourget. But that is a Bourget with 120hp in the motor with another 20 with the nitrous option.
 
I just don’t get it. Guess I never will. How can you ride it without worrying about getting a ding in in it? I am totally lost when it comes to riding these crazy expensive bikes.

I am getting a rice burner for a fraction of price you and all my buddies pay and it will be a better bike IMO. My buddies heard me say this they would not talk to me. lol Harley freaks.


curling said:
Oh ok. Yea, you can go as crazy as your wallet will let ya. I will have about $45 in my chopper once I get it delivered from Bourget. But that is a Bourget with 120hp in the motor with another 20 with the nitrous option.
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KA-BAR said:
I just don’t get it. Guess I never will. How can you ride it without worrying about getting a ding in in it? I am totally lost when it comes to riding these crazy expensive bikes.

I am getting a rice burner for a fraction of price you and all my buddies pay and it will be a better bike IMO. My buddies heard me say this they would not talk to me. lol Harley freaks.
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The only Harley riders I can not tolerate are the ones that have the mentality of "If it's not a harley, it's crap." My buddy's dad is like that. When I told him I got a new bike, he started off on the "jap crap rice rocket" stuff. That turned into a nasty arguement because he's so fucking thick headed (and not just about bikes) that he can't accept anyone else's point of view. He couldn't fathom why I'd want to haul ass around turns and said that a motorcycle was for sitting back and cruising on. When I said "maybe for you, but not for me, I like turns" he still stood his opinion that bikes were made to cruise on.

He ended up walking away after a while. I even said, "you may want to just cruise, and that's cool, you have a bike for that. I want to hit backroads and go through turns with ease, and I have a bike for that. Different bikes for different purposes." He STILL said that anything other than a cruiser was pointless. :rolleyes:
 
crak600 said:
The only Harley riders I can not tolerate are the ones that have the mentality of "If it's not a harley, it's crap." My buddy's dad is like that. When I told him I got a new bike, he started off on the "jap crap rice rocket" stuff. That turned into a nasty arguement because he's so fucking thick headed (and not just about bikes) that he can't accept anyone else's point of view. He couldn't fathom why I'd want to haul ass around turns and said that a motorcycle was for sitting back and cruising on. When I said "maybe for you, but not for me, I like turns" he still stood his opinion that bikes were made to cruise on.

He ended up walking away after a while. I even said, "you may want to just cruise, and that's cool, you have a bike for that. I want to hit backroads and go through turns with ease, and I have a bike for that. Different bikes for different purposes." He STILL said that anything other than a cruiser was pointless. :rolleyes:
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man people like that suck.
 
KA-BAR said:
I just don’t get it. Guess I never will. How can you ride it without worrying about getting a ding in in it? I am totally lost when it comes to riding these crazy expensive bikes.

I am getting a rice burner for a fraction of price you and all my buddies pay and it will be a better bike IMO. My buddies heard me say this they would not talk to me. lol Harley freaks.
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It is weird when you think about it. I guess it is almost like works of art after a while. But that is why I like Bourget over some of the other builders or Harley for that matter especially the Low Blow Chopper. With only a 210 back tire it still handles turns with ease and it can go over 145mph.

Crak, as far as that dude. Just wheelie past him on the freeway like he is standing still. That is what I do to harleys and it is funnn.
 
KA-BAR said:
Almost 6' 2" and others have told me this exact same thing. Now I am really screwed up on what to get. Should I just go with the R1 then and be done with it?

Dev most of my friends have 20-50k dollar harleys but they are not me at all. I ask them what the big deal about Harleys are. They say American blah blah. IMO everything is international now. They cannot give me a good reason why Harley. A few have said look at the girls. I have seen many hot chicks on sports bikes.

Reasons why I will not get a harley.

1. To loud
2. To expensive.
3. To slow.
4. All my buddies do is rub on them all day keeping them clean. I do not have time for that. I just want to spray my bike off and ride. lol I do not need a ton of chrome.
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1. Keep stock mufflers and they aren't loud
2. Yes they are pricey but they keep their value unlike all other makes.
3. The only stock cruiser that will outrun a hog is just as pricey and becomes half as valuable as soon as you leave the lot. And the only bike with more torque as another 400cc's on the engine. Also try a v-rod currently the fastest racebike ever built.
4. Only put as much chrome as you want on a Harley mine has very little.

You sound like your in it for speed so get a crotch rocket I would suggest honda as they make a nice and reliable bike. CBR900 would be a good choice.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
curling said:
Why would you want to do that? The loudness is what is cool about a hawg and it keeps you alive.
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It also pisses of neighbors, communities, cops, and gives anti-motorcycle groups more fuel to introduce anti motorcycle laws. There are now communities in the US where bikes are forbidden under noise laws. Whereas i don't mind the noise of louder pipes it is rediculous when you set off car alarms 20ft away. Plus I have very sensitive hearing and don't like super loud noises so I keep the stock mufflers and wear earplugs when I ride.

Cheers,
Scotsman
 
curling said:
Why would you want to do that? The loudness is what is cool about a hawg and it keeps you alive.
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When I can hear your pipes over a 400 watt car stereo cranked all the way up while going 70mph, they're too loud.

Come on Curling, you know as well as I do that it doesn't matter what you do or how loud your pipes are, if the car doesn't want to see you they're not going to see you. Wearing proper gear does more to keep you alive than loud pipes.
 
Exactly! I have Tinnitus pretty bad. Loud noise makes it worse. Also I cannot tell you how many times my girls have been woken up by a stupid ass going by with no baffles at all rumbling the whole house. Yea that’s cool.

I even got a disorderly conduct about 5 years ago when my asshole neighbor would get off work at 11pm at night and fire up his bike and let it run wide open. This went on for months. None of the other neighbors would do anything because they where scared of the 150lb long haired hippy full of tattoos. lol

I opened the door and ask him to please stop one night and just as I thought he told me to fuck off. lol I put my shoes on and go over there and told him to come up on the sidewalk where it is neutral zone so we could talk. The cops pull up and ask me what was going on. I am sure his GF called them knowing I was about to dick smack her little peker friend. I told the cops I was getting ready to kick the little fuckers ass so I get charged. lol Yea I was stupid back then.

Why is it cars and trucks have to have exhaust but motorcycles do not? Like I said all they do is make noise. They have nothing to back it up. Kind of like the loud mouth that my daughter can beat the shit out of. All noise no balls.

I was on the interstate last summer in my truck and some Harley guy was beside me and opened it up and it did not go anywhere. lol IT just made noise. I bet my truck would have out ran it. I started laughing at him and he gave me the head node thinking he was cool. I don’t get the Harley thing at all.



Scotsman said:
It also pisses of neighbors, communities, cops, and gives anti-motorcycle groups more fuel to introduce anti motorcycle laws. There are now communities in the US where bikes are forbidden under noise laws. Whereas i don't mind the noise of louder pipes it is rediculous when you set off car alarms 20ft away. Plus I have very sensitive hearing and don't like super loud noises so I keep the stock mufflers and wear earplugs when I ride.

Cheers,
Scotsman
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KA-BAR said:
Exactly! I have Tinnitus pretty bad. Loud noise makes it worse. Also I cannot tell you how many times my girls have been woken up by a stupid ass going by with no baffles at all rumbling the whole house. Yea that’s cool.

I even got a disorderly conduct about 5 years ago when my asshole neighbor would get off work at 11pm at night and fire up his bike and let it run wide open. This went on for months. None of the other neighbors would do anything because they where scared of the 150lb long haired hippy full of tattoos. lol

I opened the door and ask him to please stop one night and just as I thought he told me to fuck off. lol I put my shoes on and go over there and told him to come up on the sidewalk where it is neutral zone so we could talk. The cops pull up and ask me what was going on. I am sure his GF called them knowing I was about to dick smack her little peker friend. I told the cops I was getting ready to kick the little fuckers ass so I get charged. lol Yea I was stupid back then.

Why is it cars and trucks have to have exhaust but motorcycles do not? Like I said all they do is make noise. They have nothing to back it up. Kind of like the loud mouth that my daughter can beat the shit out of. All noise no balls.

I was on the interstate last summer in my truck and some Harley guy was beside me and opened it up and it did not go anywhere. lol IT just made noise. I bet my truck would have out ran it. I started laughing at him and he gave me the head node thinking he was cool. I don’t get the Harley thing at all.
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Ok, the practicality of a high flow exhaust - if you have an engine that makes most of it's horsepower in the high RPMs, a high flow exhaust (with intake side tuned properly for it) is your best friend. The downside can be the volume, depending on how loud it is. My bike sounds nice with the pipe I have on it, it's louder, but not overbearing, and did I mention how nice it sounds? Yeah, it's nice.

Now on a harley, a high flow exhaust is the most retarded thing you can put on the bike. Why? Because they don't rev high and they make lots of torque in the low RPMs. You want more restriction in the exhaust so you can keep your torque and be able to get moving faster. If you kill off the torque on a low revving engine like that, it's retarded.

I laugh my ass off when I see lifted trucks with high flow exhausts on them. Hey buddy, you just killed your torque, the one thing you're going to actually NEED with those large ass tires if you take that thing offroad.
 
I have flow masters on my truck and its sounds nice with the duals. I have never heard a sport bike that was so loud it has woke up my whole family. Big difference between having a nice rumble and having no exhaust at all or just being so loud its deafening.
 
Scotsman said:
It also pisses of neighbors, communities, cops, and gives anti-motorcycle groups more fuel to introduce anti motorcycle laws. There are now communities in the US where bikes are forbidden under noise laws. Whereas i don't mind the noise of louder pipes it is rediculous when you set off car alarms 20ft away. Plus I have very sensitive hearing and don't like super loud noises so I keep the stock mufflers and wear earplugs when I ride.

Cheers,
Scotsman
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Not to hijack the thread, but this reminds me of a story... :)

When I was younger, I worked in a restaurant in my neighborhood that was open unit 1am...By the time the place was cleaned up and tips counted, it was usually 2am. Anyway, every Saturday this fucking Meathead would ride his Harley up and down the street with what sounded like straight pipes in front of the place - now keep in mind, this is a very residential area and a close knit ethnic neighborhood, and these pipes were seriously loud...

One night, one of the cooks wanted to get some revenge on this guy, becuase he lived on the street, as did I - so we were in front of the place, about a dozen of us, armed with frozen meatballs (which were about the size and hardness of a baseball) and eggs. Once Meathead came roaring up the street again, we let it all fly. He got hammered with everything. He hit the brakes and started swearing from down the street, but the meatballs and eggs kept flying, and besides it was 12-1, he wasn't that stupid...

He was never seen in the wee hours of the night again on that street.


Bluesman
 
That’s a great fucking story. I would never wish this upon anyone but that ass that lived beside me put me through hell for a long time and I could not kick his ass because at the time I just beat 2 assault charges in court. Its not fun knowing if you get found guilty your are going to do some time. Long story. Anyway the dick hit a deer when he was drunk as a skunk and it almost killed him. He is pretty much crippled and his wife kicked his ass out so no more asshole. I guess the Karma system got him. He is able to barely walk now and last summer I seen him wreck on my street again! I am sure he was drunk as hell but he was riding along going to his x’s house and his bike just flopped over when he was going about 10MPH. lol It laid on him for about 1 min before he managed to crawl out from under it. I had such hate toward him I was laughing. I know I am probably going to hell in a hand basket.
 
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