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nefertiti said:
I have a ridiculous memory...and as a result, unless someone is the best liar ever, I tend to catch inconsistencies without even trying.
shroud your lie in truth
 
BIKINIMOM said:
I would like just ONE "logical" explanation as to how a stranger's intimate apparell could possibly end up in a family's wash.

I could care less if it were male/female. Just come up with ONE scenario that isn't completely "out there" and I would say that MABYE the dude isn't exercising extremely poor judgment during his extra curricular activities.

I would like one clear explanation how I loose 1 sock every time there is laundry done. Wierd stuff is going on in the laundry. Shit that can't be explained - twighlight zone material. Really - this is serious.
 
nefertiti said:
Bino,

I know you think his nonchalance is a point in his favor...I see it as the opposite. As cindy said, it's a tool of manipulation. He has a history of lying to her about contact with women, and one of the consequences of that is that in the future the burden of proof is on him, not her. In his shoes, were I innocent, I would have moved heaven and earth to prove my innocence. Not gone to bed at 8 and said, "you should just trust me." If I were innocent, I would have been sick to my stomach at the thought of my spouse sitting up all night trying to "just trust me."

No, I would have been right there with her, staying up all night trying to come up with answers.
you write well
 
vixensghost said:
What is left to salvage if someone can not get past the type person I am? I trust easy, I love easier, I do not forgive AT ALL. It's a flaw I have and it'll never change.

When you say you would never forgive at all, I guess I am reminded of the phrase, "never say never". As wonderful as you are, I doubt that you or Mr. VB are perfect, and you yourself might be in need of forgiveness someday for somehow hurting your hubby. Maybe you'll go through some type of phase, who knows?

When you see a couple that has been married for 40, 50, 60 years with adult children, grandchildren, shared memories, estate, assets, sitting as a glorious and uber-respected family patriach at a family reunion, you can rest assured that at some time during their relationship one or the other was hurt and maybe ready to leave, but decided to forgive and yes, salvage the marriage, and were able to grow and be even happier than before.
 
Longhorn85 said:
When you say you would never forgive at all, I guess I am reminded of the phrase, "never say never". As wonderful as you are, I doubt that you or Mr. VB are perfect, and you yourself might be in need of forgiveness someday for somehow hurting your hubby. Maybe you'll go through some type of phase, who knows?

When you see a couple that has been married for 40, 50, 60 years with adult children, grandchildren, shared memories, estate, assets, sitting as a glorious and uber-respected family patriach at a family reunion, you can rest assured that at some time during their relationship one or the other was hurt and maybe ready to leave, but decided to forgive and yes, salvage the marriage, and were able to grow and be even happier than before.


I agree with you...If it if fixable get to counseling....your marriage is young and so is your child...everything is workable if BOTH want to work at it :heart:
 
I noticed myway has not posted in a bit. I hope all is ok with her :( I hope she gets the truth out somehow one way or the other so she has some closure on all of this.
 
billfred said:
I would like one clear explanation how I loose 1 sock every time there is laundry done. Wierd stuff is going on in the laundry. Shit that can't be explained - twighlight zone material. Really - this is serious.

LOL Dollars to donuts that when only one sock comes out of the dryer only one sock went in. If everyone went through the trouble of pairing their dirty socks I can guarantee you that this "mystery" would be solved.

Nonetheless, a missing sock does NOT = extra intimate apparel.
 
billfred said:
I would like one clear explanation how I loose 1 sock every time there is laundry done. Wierd stuff is going on in the laundry. Shit that can't be explained - twighlight zone material. Really - this is serious.
I bet all the missing socks are in some sock bar somewhere laughing their asses off.
 
Longhorn85 said:
When you say you would never forgive at all, I guess I am reminded of the phrase, "never say never". As wonderful as you are, I doubt that you or Mr. VB are perfect, and you yourself might be in need of forgiveness someday for somehow hurting your hubby. Maybe you'll go through some type of phase, who knows?

When you see a couple that has been married for 40, 50, 60 years with adult children, grandchildren, shared memories, estate, assets, sitting as a glorious and uber-respected family patriach at a family reunion, you can rest assured that at some time during their relationship one or the other was hurt and maybe ready to leave, but decided to forgive and yes, salvage the marriage, and were able to grow and be even happier than before.

My parents went through two such spots. I'll never forget my mother's words..."Divorce would be the easy answer...but I love your father too much for that."
 
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