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Man driven to suicide by ex wife and divorce courts
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are you justifying suicide? I've got some extra test lying around I was keep for a rainy day but if you need it....
seriously though, even if he couldn't see his kids yet, eventually they'll be old enough to make their own decisions. And you'd think eventually he would come across a reasonable judge.
Makes the men happy. At least till they come off or their estrogen levels get too high and they turn into whiny babies.
I think this is why suicide is such a brutal thing. You can see how he got to that point but in some sense, did he give up on the kids? Would it have changed when they got older?
I'm not justifying anything, but I understand it.
Until you've had your kids taken from you or had to fight to even see them I don't think you can ever really know his pain...ya know?
20,000 divorcing and recently divorced men commit suicide every year in the US. I think we should start taking a look at the family court system and ourselves. Should no fault divorces be so easy to obtain? Is divorce in the best interest of children? Should the person who files for divorce be able to get primary custody of the children? Do women really need child support anymore? If they do, should they be able to modify it on a whim so easy?
That's a HUGE number! Wow!!
it's pretty much impossible to be depressed on test.
But my point was that I've yet to come across any circumstance where suicide is justified, esecially this one. Fight to see your kids and then give up and kill yourself? I can't see it. It's a terrible story but it's a cop out.
Fuck her and her child support. Fuck everyone
But my point was that I've yet to come across any circumstance where suicide is justified, esecially this one. Fight to see your kids and then give up and kill yourself? I can't see it. It's a terrible story but it's a cop out.
Fuck her and her child support. Fuck everyone
Men Wear Divorce Badly - CBS News
Men Wear Divorce Badly
Divorce may elevate suicide risk with raised psychological distress. (AP)
Divorced men face twice as high a risk of suicide as their married counterparts.
(CBS) How do married men fare after a divorce?
When it comes to some American men, apparently not well, according to a University of California sociologist who just published a large national study on divorce and suicide.
Augustine Kposowa of the University of California at Riverside, spoke from Los Angeles on his findings with The Early Show's Jon Frankel on Thursday."Divorced and separated persons were over twice as likely to commit suicide as married individuals," Kposowa states in his study. In fact, divorced men end up with twice as high a risk of suicide as their married counterparts.
He did not find such a high suicide rate among divorced women, however.
Kposowa gave three possible explanations, based on opinion.
First, he cites "financial obligations," adding that "The courts in the United States are in a position now whereby money is given to the woman, or the man is forced to pay alimony, child support. The man is also asked, in some cases, to vacate the house."
Kposowa also notes familial factors. "If a man loses custody of the children and the woman keeps those children, there are situations whereby she may not allow the man to see the children, and that causes some depression," he says.
And there are the methods used. "Generally the methods that men and women use to commit suicide are different. Men tend to use guns, for the most part, in the United States. In fact, in 60 percent of suicides that are committed are by a firearm, a gun."
"Women are, on the other hand, attempt suicide more often than men," Kposowa says. "Men are more likely to take their own life."
"Women tend to initiate divorce more than men," Kposowa notes. "They do think about suicide. They attempt suicide more often than men do, but men (are more likely to go through with it) because men use more lethal weapons, whereas women use less lethal weapons. If a man uses a gun, he's less likely to survive. If a woman uses drugs, medications,...her chances of survival are higher."
Read Sociologist's Study
Click here to read part of the report.
Here are some key points, excerpted from the study's findings, when adjusted for the effects of socioeconomic status:
* Men were nearly 4.8 times as likey to commit suicide as women.
* African Americans experienced a risk of suicide that was 61 percent lower than that of whites.
* In general, the lower the level of education, the higher the risk of suicide.
* As for income, only those in households with incomes between $5,000 and $9,999 (inclusive) had a significant suicide risk.
* Residents of Western states had much higher risks of suicide.
* Persons 55 to 64 years old were 41 percent more likely to kill themselves than youths (15 to 24).
* Those 65 years or older had a suicide risk that was 61 percent higher than the risk exhibited by individuals 15 to 24 years of age.
How does Kposowa explain the connection? "It may be marriage confers health and many other advantages which divorced persons lack," he writes.
The different findings by sex occur, he argues in the report, because "Perhaps women form greater supportive networks, such as meaningful friendships at a higher level than men, and regardless of their marital status." So when their marital status changes, women have their friends.
Suicide Prevention Resources
Call 800-SUICIDE
(800-784-2433)
"Although divorce is a crisis and a profoundly stressful life event for many people, men and women react to the crisis and stress differently. Men kill themselves, but women do not," he further writes.
The study, "Marial Status and Suicide in the National Longitudinal Mortality Study," published this month in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health considered data from the National Longitudinal Mortality Study, from 1979 to 1989. The samples came from the Current Population Survey, by the U.S. Bureau of the Census.
Men Wear Divorce Badly
Divorce may elevate suicide risk with raised psychological distress. (AP)
Divorced men face twice as high a risk of suicide as their married counterparts.
(CBS) How do married men fare after a divorce?
When it comes to some American men, apparently not well, according to a University of California sociologist who just published a large national study on divorce and suicide.
Augustine Kposowa of the University of California at Riverside, spoke from Los Angeles on his findings with The Early Show's Jon Frankel on Thursday."Divorced and separated persons were over twice as likely to commit suicide as married individuals," Kposowa states in his study. In fact, divorced men end up with twice as high a risk of suicide as their married counterparts.
He did not find such a high suicide rate among divorced women, however.
Kposowa gave three possible explanations, based on opinion.
First, he cites "financial obligations," adding that "The courts in the United States are in a position now whereby money is given to the woman, or the man is forced to pay alimony, child support. The man is also asked, in some cases, to vacate the house."
Kposowa also notes familial factors. "If a man loses custody of the children and the woman keeps those children, there are situations whereby she may not allow the man to see the children, and that causes some depression," he says.
And there are the methods used. "Generally the methods that men and women use to commit suicide are different. Men tend to use guns, for the most part, in the United States. In fact, in 60 percent of suicides that are committed are by a firearm, a gun."
"Women are, on the other hand, attempt suicide more often than men," Kposowa says. "Men are more likely to take their own life."
"Women tend to initiate divorce more than men," Kposowa notes. "They do think about suicide. They attempt suicide more often than men do, but men (are more likely to go through with it) because men use more lethal weapons, whereas women use less lethal weapons. If a man uses a gun, he's less likely to survive. If a woman uses drugs, medications,...her chances of survival are higher."
Read Sociologist's Study
Click here to read part of the report.
Here are some key points, excerpted from the study's findings, when adjusted for the effects of socioeconomic status:
* Men were nearly 4.8 times as likey to commit suicide as women.
* African Americans experienced a risk of suicide that was 61 percent lower than that of whites.
* In general, the lower the level of education, the higher the risk of suicide.
* As for income, only those in households with incomes between $5,000 and $9,999 (inclusive) had a significant suicide risk.
* Residents of Western states had much higher risks of suicide.
* Persons 55 to 64 years old were 41 percent more likely to kill themselves than youths (15 to 24).
* Those 65 years or older had a suicide risk that was 61 percent higher than the risk exhibited by individuals 15 to 24 years of age.
How does Kposowa explain the connection? "It may be marriage confers health and many other advantages which divorced persons lack," he writes.
The different findings by sex occur, he argues in the report, because "Perhaps women form greater supportive networks, such as meaningful friendships at a higher level than men, and regardless of their marital status." So when their marital status changes, women have their friends.
Suicide Prevention Resources
Call 800-SUICIDE
(800-784-2433)
"Although divorce is a crisis and a profoundly stressful life event for many people, men and women react to the crisis and stress differently. Men kill themselves, but women do not," he further writes.
The study, "Marial Status and Suicide in the National Longitudinal Mortality Study," published this month in the Journal of Epidemiology and Community Health considered data from the National Longitudinal Mortality Study, from 1979 to 1989. The samples came from the Current Population Survey, by the U.S. Bureau of the Census.
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