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musclemom

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I got into a brief discussion with a 20 something the other day and I'm curious for some broader input. I fully admit I'm absolutely out of touch with what is socially expected and accepted in terms of dating these days so I just want to hear what the consensus is, that's all. Specifically, guys, do you consider a girl who sleeps with you (or engages in anything more than a kiss really) on the FIRST date someone you can consider a long term relationship with, or is the simple fact she was "easy" always going to be in the back of your mind, impact how much you respect her and pretty much guarantee that she's someone you'll eventually dump?
 
I fucked my wife on the first date and we got married

Besides i thought feminism took care of all that crap about women not being long term material if they put out on the first date? Especially for todays younger people. Which is it?
 
musclemom said:
I got into a brief discussion with a 20 something the other day and I'm curious for some broader input. I fully admit I'm absolutely out of touch with what is socially expected and accepted in terms of dating these days so I just want to hear what the consensus is, that's all. Specifically, guys, do you consider a girl who sleeps with you (or engages in anything more than a kiss really) on the FIRST date someone you can consider a long term relationship with, or is the simple fact she was "easy" always going to be in the back of your mind, impact how much you respect her and pretty much guarantee that she's someone you'll eventually dump?
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hard to say, would depend on circumstances.

I hate when women set these "x amount of dates" limits. if its gonna happen the first night let it.. why stop n be like nope have to wait till day xyz.

So would have to be depending the vybe of the date etc..

good question actually.
 
I don't think it would make a difference if there's a good connection. Though, making me wait until the second date to show she's not easy wouldn't hurt either. Either way probably wouldn't make a difference.

But I've been married for a few years and probably been on maybe 10 or less real dates with anyone but my wife. In college you didn't have to go on dates to get laid. But those girls definitely were out of the question for long term relationships.
 
Faizakafez said:
hard to say, would depend on circumstances.

I hate when women set these "x amount of dates" limits. if its gonna happen the first night let it.. why stop n be like nope have to wait till day xyz.

So would have to be depending the vybe of the date etc..

good question actually.
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I should have qualified that I'm not thinking in terms of three date limit, one week limit, etc., it's more just the question of "does a first date fuck still equal slut"?

That being said, I actually had rules back when I dated and the funny thing was whenever I broke those rules I truly regretted it. I stuck to every rule with my current husband and it was the best decision for both of us. The stakes were so high we really had to be sure, we were and still are ... but that's me and I'm old :D
 
musclemom said:
I should have qualified that I'm not thinking in terms of three date limit, one week limit, etc., it's more just the question of "does a first date fuck still equal slut"?
That being said, I actually had rules back when I dated and the funny thing was whenever I broke those rules I truly regretted it. I stuck to every rule with my current husband and it was the best decision for both of us. The stakes were so high we really had to be sure, we were and still are ... but that's me and I'm old :D
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I would say it depends, I mean if there is a connection and the vibe is right no not all..

but if you can tell there's no connection on either sides but both individuals are attracted to each other than maybe a hit it and quit it scenario..
 
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-SD- said:
Besides i thought feminism took care of all that crap about women not being long term material if they put out on the first date? Especially for todays younger people. Which is it?
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Ah, you do bring up a good point there and again, all I have is my own personal experience which is, apparently, woefully out of date.

Feminism or no let me put it this way, while I would have expected a guy to test the boundaries a little, if he can't respect my comfort zone then I have no respect for him. I had rules because what we're really talking about is a comfort zone and any guy who thought we should go faster than I was comfortable with never went out with me on another date :whatever:

Honestly, I needed to know something about a person's character before I let them stick their tongue in my mouth, never mind anything else!
 
WoodyO said:
What does one's character have to do with getting laid? Sometimes sex is just sex.
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I never managed to pull off the "it's just sex" thing, I freely admit it, I don't care how horny I am. I simply cannot be intimate with someone that I don't really know. I tried once, it was truly awful. I felt creepy, almost like I had asked him to rape me.

I need trust, a rapport, a degree of friendship to enjoy sex.
 
musclemom said:
I should have qualified that I'm not thinking in terms of three date limit, one week limit, etc., it's more just the question of "does a first date fuck still equal slut"?

That being said, I actually had rules back when I dated and the funny thing was whenever I broke those rules I truly regretted it. I stuck to every rule with my current husband and it was the best decision for both of us. The stakes were so high we really had to be sure, we were and still are ... but that's me and I'm old :D
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Obviously, my overall opinion on sex and dating is going to differ from most, but IMO anyone who has sex with someone on a first date made a really bad decision at that point in time.

I can't imagine having sex with anyone you just met. That seems really wrong to me. Even more so now that I am married. I am extremely glad that I waited.

I don't mean anything personal by that, as SD said he did it with his wife the first date. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm glad for him that it worked out and he's happily married.

I would never advocate intimacy between strangers, religious convictions aside. That's really poor decision making on both parts. Way too many very negative consequences become a potential outcome and is not worth the momentary pleasure.

Sex should always be something more than "it's just sex". That's a pretty shallow and selfish attitude IMO.
 
AFeedz said:
Why can't sex sometimes just be for pleasure only? I don't think that's selfish. That's nature.
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I didn't mean specifically that.

Sex feels great, and that's why people like it so much that it consumes a very large portion of people's daily thought and desire. But, I also feel that it shouldn't be something done between people who don't have any level of commitment to each other. Having a standard and following that is a good idea for everyone.

Sex has the physical component of pleasure for oneself, but should also the consideration of that for the other person. Just looking to get off is selfish. It's about yourself, not someone else, and looking for that from someone you just met can almost never have a selfless approach to that type of activity.

Having a legitimate positive emotional attachment and connection should be present so that sex brings you closer in that regard to each other in commitment and love to one another. You don't have that with a stranger, I don't think it's possible.


I'm not an expert, but my perspective has been enhanced since last week.

The closeness and love on an emotional level I have for my wife has increased dramatically. She feels the same way. That is much more important to me than an orgasm. That's why I believe that "it's just sex" with a stranger completely lacks any real meaning or significance other than getting off and feeling good for a short period of time. That, to me, is almost inherently selfish.
 
dabuffguy said:
I didn't mean specifically that.

Sex feels great, and that's why people like it so much that it consumes a very large portion of people's daily thought and desire. But, I also feel that it shouldn't be something done between people who don't have any level of commitment to each other. Having a standard and following that is a good idea for everyone.

Sex has the physical component of pleasure for oneself, but should also the consideration of that for the other person. Just looking to get off is selfish. It's about yourself, not someone else, and looking for that from someone you just met can almost never have a selfless approach to that type of activity.

Having a legitimate positive emotional attachment and connection should be present so that sex brings you closer in that regard to each other in commitment and love to one another. You don't have that with a stranger, I don't think it's possible.


I'm not an expert, but my perspective has been enhanced since last week.

The closeness and love on an emotional level I have for my wife has increased dramatically. She feels the same way. That is much more important to me than an orgasm. That's why I believe that "it's just sex" with a stranger completely lacks any real meaning or significance other than getting off and feeling good for a short period of time. That, to me, is almost inherently selfish.
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I agree with Afeedz

there is a difference between intimacy and having sex.


it also depends on how you "value" sex in your lifestyle, you have it as the final step to bring you closer or whatever.. while others it may rank lower.
 
dabuffguy said:
I didn't mean specifically that.

Sex feels great, and that's why people like it so much that it consumes a very large portion of people's daily thought and desire. But, I also feel that it shouldn't be something done between people who don't have any level of commitment to each other. Having a standard and following that is a good idea for everyone.

Sex has the physical component of pleasure for oneself, but should also the consideration of that for the other person. Just looking to get off is selfish. It's about yourself, not someone else, and looking for that from someone you just met can almost never have a selfless approach to that type of activity.

Having a legitimate positive emotional attachment and connection should be present so that sex brings you closer in that regard to each other in commitment and love to one another. You don't have that with a stranger, I don't think it's possible.


I'm not an expert, but my perspective has been enhanced since last week.

The closeness and love on an emotional level I have for my wife has increased dramatically. She feels the same way. That is much more important to me than an orgasm. That's why I believe that "it's just sex" with a stranger completely lacks any real meaning or significance other than getting off and feeling good for a short period of time. That, to me, is almost inherently selfish.
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Get your love making ass out of here
 
dabuffguy said:
I didn't mean specifically that.

Sex feels great, and that's why people like it so much that it consumes a very large portion of people's daily thought and desire. But, I also feel that it shouldn't be something done between people who don't have any level of commitment to each other. Having a standard and following that is a good idea for everyone.

Sex has the physical component of pleasure for oneself, but should also the consideration of that for the other person. Just looking to get off is selfish. It's about yourself, not someone else, and looking for that from someone you just met can almost never have a selfless approach to that type of activity.

Having a legitimate positive emotional attachment and connection should be present so that sex brings you closer in that regard to each other in commitment and love to one another. You don't have that with a stranger, I don't think it's possible.


I'm not an expert, but my perspective has been enhanced since last week.

The closeness and love on an emotional level I have for my wife has increased dramatically. She feels the same way. That is much more important to me than an orgasm. That's why I believe that "it's just sex" with a stranger completely lacks any real meaning or significance other than getting off and feeling good for a short period of time. That, to me, is almost inherently selfish.
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It's not like I go around banging everyone.

But even with someone I love, sometimes I'm having sex with you cuz I love you and sometimes I'm having sex with you cuz I want to fuck you.
 
dabuffguy said:
I didn't mean specifically that.

Sex feels great, and that's why people like it so much that it consumes a very large portion of people's daily thought and desire. But, I also feel that it shouldn't be something done between people who don't have any level of commitment to each other. Having a standard and following that is a good idea for everyone.

Sex has the physical component of pleasure for oneself, but should also the consideration of that for the other person. Just looking to get off is selfish. It's about yourself, not someone else, and looking for that from someone you just met can almost never have a selfless approach to that type of activity.

Having a legitimate positive emotional attachment and connection should be present so that sex brings you closer in that regard to each other in commitment and love to one another. You don't have that with a stranger, I don't think it's possible.


I'm not an expert, but my perspective has been enhanced since last week.

The closeness and love on an emotional level I have for my wife has increased dramatically. She feels the same way. That is much more important to me than an orgasm. That's why I believe that "it's just sex" with a stranger completely lacks any real meaning or significance other than getting off and feeling good for a short period of time. That, to me, is almost inherently selfish.
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How would you know?
 
my wife just wants to be fucked on the kitchen counter or randomly in my office most of the time. not much emotion involved
 
Faizakafez said:
there is a difference between intimacy and having sex.
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I don't think that's true for everyone. What I was trying to say awkwardly in an earlier post is that I cannot separate emotional intimacy from physical intimacy.

And to think of it that way it sort of brings around what my thread is about, emotional intimacy vs. physical intimacy. It seems that people are more connected in a superficial way, more information is being exchanged at a higher rate than in all of history, but how much of that information carries weight? People seem to be engaging in more sex and more openly than ever but increasingly the sex is beyond casual. It has no value, it's release, nothing else.

I personally have no feelings about these matters, no true opinions, just an observation. I'm just glad I'm permanently out of the dating pool ;)
 
AFeedz said:
It's not like I go around banging everyone.

But even with someone I love, sometimes I'm having sex with you cuz I love you and sometimes I'm having sex with you cuz I want to fuck you.
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Of course not, I was speaking in general, not to you specifically.



I get that to. But, people do not have sex ever with a first date because they are in love with them. It's always to "fuck them" not "love them" as you put it, and doing that with someone you just met is just not a good decision, period. IMO, the first time you should have sex with someone is to love them, not just to get off.
 
dabuffguy said:
Of course not, I was speaking in general, not to you specifically.







I get that to. But, people do not have sex ever with a first date because they are in love with them. It's always to "fuck them" not "love them" as you put it, and doing that with someone you just met is just not a good decision, period. IMO, the first time you should have sex with someone is to love them, not just to get off.
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* too
 
I've never found myself having sex on a first date with a total stranger, in all fairness I've never really dated strangers, only guys I knew from school, work, mutual friends, etc

I once made out with a total stranger I danced with a lot with one night at a club, it was quite disturbing to me. Cant even imagine doing a stranger :worried:
 
musclemom said:
I don't think that's true for everyone. What I was trying to say awkwardly in an earlier post is that I cannot separate emotional intimacy from physical intimacy.



And to think of it that way it sort of brings around what my thread is about, emotional intimacy vs. physical intimacy. It seems that people are more connected in a superficial way, more information is being exchanged at a higher rate than in all of history, but how much of that information carries weight? People seem to be engaging in more sex and more openly than ever but increasingly the sex is beyond casual. It has no value, it's release, nothing else.



I personally have no feelings about these matters, no true opinions, just an observation. I'm just glad I'm permanently out of the dating pool ;)
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I think you hit the nail on the head! Even dating at my age isn't nearly what it was 20 years ago. Not uncommon for sex to be a part of the first "date"
 
musclemom said:
I got into a brief discussion with a 20 something the other day and I'm curious for some broader input. I fully admit I'm absolutely out of touch with what is socially expected and accepted in terms of dating these days so I just want to hear what the consensus is, that's all. Specifically, guys, do you consider a girl who sleeps with you (or engages in anything more than a kiss really) on the FIRST date someone you can consider a long term relationship with, or is the simple fact she was "easy" always going to be in the back of your mind, impact how much you respect her and pretty much guarantee that she's someone you'll eventually dump?
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the old guy is allowing you to date now :confused:
 
PICK3 said:
the old guy is allowing you to date now :confused:
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My husband is not an "old guy"! Amazingly, age is like money, the more years you acquire, the higher you set the mark, so to speak :rolleyes:

And I have no interest in dating again, ever. Never, never, ever again!

A conversation got me thinking, that's all.
 
musclemom said:
I should have qualified that I'm not thinking in terms of three date limit, one week limit, etc., it's more just the question of "does a first date fuck still equal slut"?

That being said, I actually had rules back when I dated and the funny thing was whenever I broke those rules I truly regretted it. I stuck to every rule with my current husband and it was the best decision for both of us. The stakes were so high we really had to be sure, we were and still are ... but that's me and I'm old :D
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why?
 
I'm 23 and don't really care if she puts out right away . It's either I'm going to take her serious or just hit it and bounce .. If he likes you he'll want to do more than just for u to come over at night and smash
 
Aplopez8 said:
I'm 23 and don't really care if she puts out right away . It's either I'm going to take her serious or just hit it and bounce .. If he likes you he'll want to do more than just for u to come over at night and smash
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smash pissers?
 
I'm not the younger generation, but imo sex with someone you barely know sucks. It's empty and somewhat infantile in a way.

The emperor has no clothes.
 
This thread fucking sux

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AFeedz said:
Why can't sex sometimes just be for pleasure only? I don't think that's selfish. That's nature.
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if you focus on the "nature" aspect of it? i think sex is generally for procreation...the fact that it feels good? that's just the pay-off for letting nature take it's course.

i'm not saying i subscribe to that point of view. i'm jus' sayin'.
 
Y'all mfkrs take gettin some pink way too serious

There are two types of dates.

1.) You know she's puttin' out anyways, so you buy the cheap wine.

6b.) Even if she puts out, you're interested enough to buy the expensive wine, and it likely won't be the last time.
 
bigbassturd said:
Y'all mfkrs take gettin some pink way too serious

There are two types of dates.

1.) You know she's puttin' out anyways, so you buy the cheap wine.

6b.) Even if she puts out, you're interested enough to buy the expensive wine, and it likely won't be the last time.
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I must say, BBT, sounds like your wife is one lucky woman.
 
wootoom said:
So many experts in here on relationships....
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Don't ask me how it evolved into a relationship discussion :whatever: I was just curious about current dating behavior amid 20 somethings. My stepkids have never dated and my son has been with his current gf for nearly two years, I don't have anyone else to ask.
 
For me it wasn't so much about how quickly she slept with me, it was her overall reputation. If she'd been around too much for my tastes, there was no way she was longterm real realationship material...just a fun fling I'd surely cut loose 3 weeks or so later. I didn't want to be that guy that is in a relationship with the town mattress.
 
MM, you and I are about the same age so I can't claim "younger crowd" status. But for me, there were plenty of clues on the first date as to whether or not the girl was a slut. By and large the girls that I tended to date made me wait at least 3 dates.

However, on the few occasions that I was able to seduce a "nice" girl on the first date (usually alcohol was involved)it made me feel special because she did something for me that she normally wouldn't do. Or, at least they were able to convince me this was the case.
 
musclemom said:
I got into a brief discussion with a 20 something the other day and I'm curious for some broader input. I fully admit I'm absolutely out of touch with what is socially expected and accepted in terms of dating these days so I just want to hear what the consensus is, that's all. Specifically, guys, do you consider a girl who sleeps with you (or engages in anything more than a kiss really) on the FIRST date someone you can consider a long term relationship with, or is the simple fact she was "easy" always going to be in the back of your mind, impact how much you respect her and pretty much guarantee that she's someone you'll eventually dump?
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