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Live Olympia Update!!!

The O isn't even exciting anymore. Seriously. The Arnold Classic the show to be into now IMO. It's more exciting and you never know who's gonna win or what might happen. Unlike the O. I wonder who Cormier pissed off. Too bad Priest did not compete. His conditioning has been so good as of late. So who took 11th on?
 
And...hate to say it, but Ronnie looked in much better shape this year. His belly wasn't hangin in the front row. Jay dropped the ball on abs. That should be one spot you can be sure you can beat Ronnie on. If he had them dialed in, well he still would lost cuz it's fixed, but it would have made more bros think Jay had it. Anyone got a pic of Gustavo?
 
gjohnson5 said:
I noticed you mentioned alot about drugs in reference to Ronnie Coleman...
Question , "Do you think Cutler is clean"?

Question #2. "Why is Ronnie gross and Cutler is not ??... This time Cutler was actually bigger"

1. You missed the point. The point was...is that Ronnie claimed to be natural for years. I don't hear Jay running around saying he's natural.

2. You are high if you think Jay was bigger than Ronnie. Hello! Even fuck'n Victor Martinez looked way smaller than Ronnie. Ronnie's quads are fucking rediculous, his chest is, his arms are, his back is. Jay didn't beat him anywhere is size. Alls I said is that Jay is more complete. Ronnie still looked like a pregnant bitch. His physique is not good for the sport. Freaks like him are what make this sport so underground. There's nothing wrong with that..but until we have Mr. O that is the "perfect body"..people will always look down upon our sport. Re-read my post before you flame anyone please.
 
Damn no Chris Cormier in Top Ten?! What the Hell happened? I hate that Priest sat this one out also!

Jay does looks awesome but I think his abs and back was a little behind from the couple pics I saw, but I hope he wins it next year!
 
nuthnbutfords said:
1. You missed the point. The point was...is that Ronnie claimed to be natural for years. I don't hear Jay running around saying he's natural.

2. You are high if you think Jay was bigger than Ronnie. Hello! Even fuck'n Victor Martinez looked way smaller than Ronnie. Ronnie's quads are fucking rediculous, his chest is, his arms are, his back is. Jay didn't beat him anywhere is size. Alls I said is that Jay is more complete. Ronnie still looked like a pregnant bitch. His physique is not good for the sport. Freaks like him are what make this sport so underground. There's nothing wrong with that..but until we have Mr. O that is the "perfect body"..people will always look down upon our sport. Re-read my post before you flame anyone please.

Sorry, I misread AAP's thread... Ronnie was 296.
 
gjohnson5 said:
Sorry, I misread AAP's thread... Ronnie was 296.

But I am in agreement with this opinion by him

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=432568

• Jay Cutler may be the biggest we've ever seen him. He looks to be the equal of Ronnie in sheer mass.

I don't think Ronnie was such a hulk compared to the other competitors, but You seem to be judging him on past events whereas I'm judging the 2005 Mr Olympia...

No flaming needed
 
I'm referring to the fact that, in general, Ronnie is an idiot. He is not a smart person. He will put anything in his body that Chad Nichols tells him to. He played the "I'm natural" game for way to many years, and I can't respect that. Ronnie can't put one sentence together with out sounding like an idiot, he has multiple kids by mutliple moms. In his videos...it shows him walk'n in his gym..and right on the fucking entrance to his gym, it states that "this is a drug free gym" or something like that. I just can't respect that. His physique is not good for the sport...hence...when people see him...they say..OH MY GOD..THAT LOOKS GROSS! When someone sees someone like Darrem Charles..they say..wow..now that is perfection. Ronnie is soo big..his body is distorted. He is not charismatic what so ever. Arnold was. And he opened up doors for every person who is "pumping iron" in the gym today.

My bad i thought you were refering to the whole king thing. but as far as his personal life goes (multiple wives and kids) well thats not a relevant topic when it comes to bbing. same goes for the fact that hes an idiot, again that doesnt matter, im not judging the mans IQ or his married life, im simply judging his physique, thats it. Also of course he'll put in his body whatever nichols tells him to, thats his job, thats why ronnie hired him, coz hes great at creating beasts, and with the results that i've seen i think that ronnie has every reason to let nichols advise him. and if we go with the latter example that "ronnie is an idiot" then what would you have ronnie do? drug himself or hire a guru (a highly respected guru) like nichols to do it for him? I think it's safe to say that i'd trust a steroid guru pick the cycles/drugs as opposed to letting the bber do it himself. As far as the whole "im natural" thing goes, well he's a cop, he cant say hes on drugs, its that simple, plus you rarely hear pros (of any sport) admit to using drugs and even if they do they'll "bend" the truth so much that they might as well have said they were natural...Arnold comes to mind. And yes people are shocked, some disguisted , by ronnies physique, but those are not bbing fans, those are ppl that bodybuild for fun or to stay healthy, thus i dont expect them to be amazed by ronnies physique. but for the fact that he's on top of the game, shows that hes doing something right. and lets say that ronnie retires, well darrem isnt going to take the spot, jay will or some other freak that resembles the freakiness of ronnies body. so by saying that ronnies physique is ruining the sport...well that wont change when he retires. also what do you mean ronnie is not charismatic, of course he is, just for the mere fact that he came out as "the king" shows his charisma, hes entertaining and fun to watch. to me thats charisma.
 
LT3 said:
My bad i thought you were refering to the whole king thing. but as far as his personal life goes (multiple wives and kids) well thats not a relevant topic when it comes to bbing. same goes for the fact that hes an idiot, again that doesnt matter, im not judging the mans IQ or his married life, im simply judging his physique, thats it. Also of course he'll put in his body whatever nichols tells him to, thats his job, thats why ronnie hired him, coz hes great at creating beasts, and with the results that i've seen i think that ronnie has every reason to let nichols advise him. and if we go with the latter example that "ronnie is an idiot" then what would you have ronnie do? drug himself or hire a guru (a highly respected guru) like nichols to do it for him? I think it's safe to say that i'd trust a steroid guru pick the cycles/drugs as opposed to letting the bber do it himself. As far as the whole "im natural" thing goes, well he's a cop, he cant say hes on drugs, its that simple, plus you rarely hear pros (of any sport) admit to using drugs and even if they do they'll "bend" the truth so much that they might as well have said they were natural...Arnold comes to mind. And yes people are shocked, some disguisted , by ronnies physique, but those are not bbing fans, those are ppl that bodybuild for fun or to stay healthy, thus i dont expect them to be amazed by ronnies physique. but for the fact that he's on top of the game, shows that hes doing something right. and lets say that ronnie retires, well darrem isnt going to take the spot, jay will or some other freak that resembles the freakiness of ronnies body. so by saying that ronnies physique is ruining the sport...well that wont change when he retires. also what do you mean ronnie is not charismatic, of course he is, just for the mere fact that he came out as "the king" shows his charisma, hes entertaining and fun to watch. to me thats charisma.

Good reply. Alls I'm saying is that there are at least 5 more complete packages that bodybuilding could use to represent the sport. The direction that the sport is going in is not a good one, and it's making it more of a underground subculture.

Ronnie hasn't done anything wrong in my eyes. He's doin his thing. There ARE more charismatic...and more complete bodybuilders..that would do MORE for the sport for all of us. To try and make it more acceptable.

The sport is going in the wrong direction. What happened when guys like Frank Zane won the olympia. Were they're guys bigger. Yes..more complete..NO.

5 more complete packages are...past and present
1. Darrem Charles
2. Richard Jones
3. Shawn Ray
4. Dexter Jackson (Duh)
5. Jay Cutler (fuck..gotta get a white guy in there!!)
6. Flex Wheeler...(mine as well get that lazy bastard in there. He does whine like a lil bitch tho!)
 
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