My bad i thought you were refering to the whole king thing. but as far as his personal life goes (multiple wives and kids) well thats not a relevant topic when it comes to bbing. same goes for the fact that hes an idiot, again that doesnt matter, im not judging the mans IQ or his married life, im simply judging his physique, thats it. Also of course he'll put in his body whatever nichols tells him to, thats his job, thats why ronnie hired him, coz hes great at creating beasts, and with the results that i've seen i think that ronnie has every reason to let nichols advise him. and if we go with the latter example that "ronnie is an idiot" then what would you have ronnie do? drug himself or hire a guru (a highly respected guru) like nichols to do it for him? I think it's safe to say that i'd trust a steroid guru pick the cycles/drugs as opposed to letting the bber do it himself. As far as the whole "im natural" thing goes, well he's a cop, he cant say hes on drugs, its that simple, plus you rarely hear pros (of any sport) admit to using drugs and even if they do they'll "bend" the truth so much that they might as well have said they were natural...Arnold comes to mind. And yes people are shocked, some disguisted , by ronnies physique, but those are not bbing fans, those are ppl that bodybuild for fun or to stay healthy, thus i dont expect them to be amazed by ronnies physique. but for the fact that he's on top of the game, shows that hes doing something right. and lets say that ronnie retires, well darrem isnt going to take the spot, jay will or some other freak that resembles the freakiness of ronnies body. so by saying that ronnies physique is ruining the sport...well that wont change when he retires. also what do you mean ronnie is not charismatic, of course he is, just for the mere fact that he came out as "the king" shows his charisma, hes entertaining and fun to watch. to me thats charisma.