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Liquid Clen: Yes or No? ag-guys

Liquid Clen?

  • Yes

    Votes: 247 79.2%

  • No

    Votes: 65 20.8%
  • Total voters
    312
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

please read before posting more threads........,.,.,.,.
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

Can clen be mixed at the same time as liquidex or clomid? or Should they be taken separately and/or at different times of the day?
 
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gonelifting said:
Can clen be mixed at the same time as liquidex or clomid? or Should they be taken separately and/or at different times of the day?
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you can take them together, I don't see why not :)
 
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Does taking Clen in the morning have any effect on one being tired later in the evening? I'm sort of asking does it "wear off" after a certain amount of time, in a 12 hour day or so?
 
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gonelifting said:
Does taking Clen in the morning have any effect on one being tired later in the evening? I'm sort of asking does it "wear off" after a certain amount of time, in a 12 hour day or so?
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Once it wears off, you will feel less energy. It has a longer half life then Ephedrine; thus, you come off much later.
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

Im going to order me a bottle of LiquiClen, I can't wait.. Im going to be adding Taurine and NAC (Liver protection because I am on Accutane atm).
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

Graphite said:
Im going to order me a bottle of LiquiClen, I can't wait.. Im going to be adding Taurine and NAC (Liver protection because I am on Accutane atm).
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good call on the Taurine :)
 
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I don't know if anyone cleared this up in the 12 pages of this thread, but what would a good dosage be of LiquiClen (200mcg/mL) for someone about 165lbs and 5'11?
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

coffey said:
I don't know if anyone cleared this up in the 12 pages of this thread, but what would a good dosage be of LiquiClen (200mcg/mL) for someone about 165lbs and 5'11?
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I have a sample clen layout done for a 180-200lbs. male

Day 1-2: 20mcg
Day 3-4: 40mcg
Day 5-6: 60mcg
Day 7-9: 80mcg
Day 10-12: 40mcg
Day 13-14: 20mcg

2 weeks ON, 2 weeks OFF CYCLE

on the 2 weeks off, run StimulantX

http://www.anabolicx.com/store/stimx.html
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

I have had excellent results with LiquiClen.

I used it on an up and down tapering. I never went higher than 120mcg, and I only reached that dose after about three or four 10 on 10 off periods.
 
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Mr.X said:
good man! ag is top notch ;)
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It's so true. Hubei was lackluster, IP I can't tell if it's real, but Liquidclen kicks in and starts working right away ... increased body heat, increased mental alertness, occasional jittery feeling. I suspect that clenbuterol may be more effective in liquid form, but I know next to nothing about chemistry. And AG is so easy to order from, boom!, and it's in your mailbox.
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

BBkingpin said:
It's so true. Hubei was lackluster, IP I can't tell if it's real, but Liquidclen kicks in and starts working right away ... increased body heat, increased mental alertness, occasional jittery feeling. I suspect that clenbuterol may be more effective in liquid form, but I know next to nothing about chemistry. And AG is so easy to order from, boom!, and it's in your mailbox.
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can't argue with those results :), AG rocks!
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

I won a bottle... Ok, done bragging because it's only 1 bottle ;)

Ordering some Taurine in a few days probably... or whenever I get notice that AG is going to ship!

WOOHOO... my rats are going to be so jacked up they're not going to know what hit 'em!!


hehe
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

sgtslaughter said:
I won a bottle... Ok, done bragging because it's only 1 bottle ;)

Ordering some Taurine in a few days probably... or whenever I get notice that AG is going to ship!

WOOHOO... my rats are going to be so jacked up they're not going to know what hit 'em!!


hehe
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I hear ya bro, I won some too :verygood: and my horse is going to love it.
And as far as the Taurine...I get mine @ GNC. They have 1000mg pills and the GNC brand is cheap. BTW, I got the email back already telling me that they are going to ship within 24 hours.


Thanx
PCfuzz
 
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hurm, so 1000mg taurine, 500mg K+, and a boatload of water to go with my clen, yes?

how much clen is in 1 droplet from the dropper?
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

kethnaab said:
hurm, so 1000mg taurine, 500mg K+, and a boatload of water to go with my clen, yes?
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1-2 grams of Taurine ED is a good run. Water is also needed at very high levels, at least 1/2 - 1 gallon ED, especially if you sweat a lot...to this add potassium ED.



kethnaab said:
how much clen is in 1 droplet from the dropper?
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Don't use droplets, use a syringe to measure out the clen properly.
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

Mr.X said:
1-2 grams of Taurine ED is a good run. Water is also needed at very high levels, at least 1/2 - 1 gallon ED, especially if you sweat a lot...to this add potassium ED.





Don't use droplets, use a syringe to measure out the clen properly.
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So run the Taurine throughout the whole time you are on the Clen even during the off weeks? How long should you take Taurine once you come off of the Clen for good?
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

FreakMonster said:
So run the Taurine throughout the whole time you are on the Clen even during the off weeks? How long should you take Taurine once you come off of the Clen for good?
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When you come off clen on a 2 week on, 2 week off pattern, you should still be using a thermogenic like Stimulant-X on the 2 weeks off. Thus, adding Taurine and potassium on your weeks off is still a good way to go.

To me, taurine is needed in daily supplementation, just like potassiume, check out this potassium article
http://www.mmsfitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9709
 
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Mr.X said:
When you come off clen on a 2 week on, 2 week off pattern, you should still be using a thermogenic like Stimulant-X on the 2 weeks off. Thus, adding Taurine and potassium on your weeks off is still a good way to go.

To me, taurine is needed in daily supplementation, just like potassiume, check out this potassium article
http://www.mmsfitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9709
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My diet is high in meat, poultry, eggs, dairy products all of which are good sources of Taurine. You don't think extra supplementation is over kill?
 
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FreakMonster said:
My diet is high in meat, poultry, eggs, dairy products all of which are good sources of Taurine. You don't think extra supplementation is over kill?
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Your dietary intake will have some taurine, but it wont be enough. You'll still need to take in external taurine.

Here are some Taurine #s for you:
"Chicken light raw 18 +/-3mg, chicken light cooked 15mg. Chicken dark raw 169mg, broiled 199mg. Turkey light raw 30mg, roasted 11mg, turkey dark raw 306 +/- 69 mg, roasted 299 +/-52 mg. Beef raw 43mg, broiled 38mg. Veal raw 40mg, broiled 47mg. Pork loin raw 81 mg, roasted 57mg. (Laidlaw Stewart A., Grosvenor M., Kopple Joel D. The Taurine Content of Common Foodstuffs, Journal of Parenteral and Enteral Nutrition, 1990, 14, No. 2, 183-188)."
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

kethnaab said:
hurm, so 1000mg taurine, 500mg K+, and a boatload of water to go with my clen, yes?

how much clen is in 1 droplet from the dropper?
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don't use droplets, use a syringe to measure out
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

big_aug said:
I have had excellent results with LiquiClen.

I used it on an up and down tapering. I never went higher than 120mcg, and I only reached that dose after about three or four 10 on 10 off periods.
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good to hear bro, ;)
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

What if you don't have any more syringes. Is there an estimate with the dropper? I don't know why a product would be sold without having some kinda way to measure. Im sure there has to be some way
 
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That stuff is sooo strong that i wouldn't take the risk.
Wait till you get a syringe bro.
 
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Is there anything you can but in the store like possibly a syringe for measuring for cooking or something like that. i would just order pins online, but no CC as of right now
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

I have never checked but you can try a drug store. Ask the guy in the white coat.
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

PCfuzz said:
I have never checked but you can try a drug store. Ask the guy in the white coat.
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most of the time you can buy the pump (syringe) in a pharmacy or drug store
 
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Mr.X said:
most of the time you can buy the pump (syringe) in a pharmacy or drug store
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Im going to have to find out. I was talking with an AG guy and he said it was 1ml = 200mcg = full dropper.
so 1/10 would be 20mcg
1/4 50mcg and so on.
doesn't sound to exact i mean i could take a ruler and mark it off but im gonna try and grab a pump from a pharmacy or something.
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

surferstar said:
Im going to have to find out. I was talking with an AG guy and he said it was 1ml = 200mcg = full dropper.
so 1/10 would be 20mcg
1/4 50mcg and so on.
doesn't sound to exact i mean i could take a ruler and mark it off but im gonna try and grab a pump from a pharmacy or something.
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if you use a syring, it's easy to measure out, that's why I said use a syringe bro. The dropper, I never use it really, unless it's cialis :p
 
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surferstar said:
Does anyone here see trails or dots or little flashes while on clen or am i the only one?
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how's your water intake? potassium and taurine?
 
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Mr.X said:
how's your water intake? potassium and taurine?
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about a gallon and a half to 2 gallons a day, and a banana a day. Don't take a taurine supplement. would that explain the headaches. i mean i get them about 15-25 min after i take them then take 2 advil and the head aches are gone for the day.
 
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surferstar said:
about a gallon and a half to 2 gallons a day, and a banana a day. Don't take a taurine supplement. would that explain the headaches. i mean i get them about 15-25 min after i take them then take 2 advil and the head aches are gone for the day.
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You need to add at least 3grams of Taurine per day and more then just a banana for potassium, get a bottle of potassium from the store ASAP and add it to your supplement intake. Check ag, they have taurine.
 
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Mr.X said:
You need to add at least 3grams of Taurine per day and more then just a banana for potassium, get a bottle of potassium from the store ASAP and add it to your supplement intake. Check ag, they have taurine.
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Ok I will. Another thing check this out. This morning I woke up fine then at @ 12pm i start getting these pains not directly in my heart but just below it in the center of my rib cage. Like the top of my lungs. I could feel the pain on deep breathes. But the more concerning part is that it felt like another almost different heart beat in that area. I've had that to a mild extent before but not as serious as this one was. I also didn't even take the clen dose yet. All of a sudden i had a fever and was extremely dizzy and just couldn't move. So i took 6 advil, bunch of vitamin C, E, B6 and B12. After lying down having what felt like an extreme fever for 2 hrs. I just felt a calm over my body and was totally fine. Weirdest thing i've ever felt. Any thoughts on that one?
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

I buy everything from AG-guys but i just switched banks so is there any local supplement stores that you think would carry the taurine?
 
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surferstar said:
I buy everything from AG-guys but i just switched banks so is there any local supplement stores that you think would carry the taurine?
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red bull bro, it has taurine in it ;)
 
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Mr.X said:
2 grams
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Wow 2g's thats like 20 pills a day right there. Also picked up taurine from GNC that right there is like 8pills a day as well. It'd prob be easier if I crushed them up and put them in some OJ or something.
 
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I just wanted to share that the liquiclen is the real deal, and any first timers should really heed the advice about cycling on/off with other stimulant type fat burners.

This stuff is incredibly STRONG, and I would strongly recommend measuring and dosing with a syringe, don't rely on the dropper (for liquid clen - not all of AG-Guys products).

Anyway, I am an experienced clen user (tablets) and didn't practice yesterday what I am preaching today.......I took my first dose of liquiclen using the dropper shortly after taking another stimulant/thermogenic product, and I didn't think I was going to make it.

My heart was racing so bad and I was so jittery, I really thought I was going to get picked-up for DUI on my way to work. Several times during work, I literally had to grab/hold my chest because my heart was pumping so fast, I was panicking.

IMO, I committed two sins with my first dose of this product, against al the advice out there. BTW, I am still racing and jittery 24 hours later, a little scared actually. I am guessing I consumed about 80 mcgs, in addition to my other fat burners.
 
Re: Liquid Clen: Yes or No?

zips92 said:
I just wanted to share that the liquiclen is the real deal, and any first timers should really heed the advice about cycling on/off with other stimulant type fat burners.

This stuff is incredibly STRONG, and I would strongly recommend measuring and dosing with a syringe, don't rely on the dropper (for liquid clen - not all of AG-Guys products).

Anyway, I am an experienced clen user (tablets) and didn't practice yesterday what I am preaching today.......I took my first dose of liquiclen using the dropper shortly after taking another stimulant/thermogenic product, and I didn't think I was going to make it.

My heart was racing so bad and I was so jittery, I really thought I was going to get picked-up for DUI on my way to work. Several times during work, I literally had to grab/hold my chest because my heart was pumping so fast, I was panicking.

IMO, I committed two sins with my first dose of this product, against al the advice out there. BTW, I am still racing and jittery 24 hours later, a little scared actually. I am guessing I consumed about 80 mcgs, in addition to my other fat burners.
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You didn't follow some basic rules, but you did learn your lesson. In the end, that's what matters.

Clen is strong and potent, so always be careful with it.
 
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zips92 said:
I just wanted to share that the liquiclen is the real deal, and any first timers should really heed the advice about cycling on/off with other stimulant type fat burners.

This stuff is incredibly STRONG, and I would strongly recommend measuring and dosing with a syringe, don't rely on the dropper (for liquid clen - not all of AG-Guys products).

Anyway, I am an experienced clen user (tablets) and didn't practice yesterday what I am preaching today.......I took my first dose of liquiclen using the dropper shortly after taking another stimulant/thermogenic product, and I didn't think I was going to make it.

My heart was racing so bad and I was so jittery, I really thought I was going to get picked-up for DUI on my way to work. Several times during work, I literally had to grab/hold my chest because my heart was pumping so fast, I was panicking.

IMO, I committed two sins with my first dose of this product, against al the advice out there. BTW, I am still racing and jittery 24 hours later, a little scared actually. I am guessing I consumed about 80 mcgs, in addition to my other fat burners.
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I definately have to agree, Im taking only low doses too 25mcg T3 and 40mcg Clen. This stuff is STRONG!! Only on day 5 and already see results, No doubt whatsoever that this stuff works great. Unfortunately I think the sides are starting to get almost not worth it. Everyone reacts differently and I just happen to get all the sides. Big Jitters, Racing heart beat "feels like 2 different heart beats", Throbbing headaches, Even gives me a slight fever during the day as well as all fever symptons @ 12pm everyday like clockwork and lasts for 2hrs, as well as muscle cramps. And it doesn't stop for me all day and all night. This stuff is crayz. But bottom Line it works! Only problem is that its starting to affect my job. I think I'm just going to finish off the week, then take a week off and do short cycles like that. I give you guys so much credit that take large amounts of this stuff. Your nuts. LOL. BTW, for headaches take advil, works great got rid of the fever and headaches in a short time. For the muscle cramps I've been taking as Mr.X suggested 2000mg Potassium and has seemed to help. If there was a way that i could take this and not feel like my heart racing or trying to serve drinks as a bartending and my hands shaking like crayz. This would be the best stuff ever. Some people don't get all these sides so don't just go by what I say But for the people who do, you what im talking about.
 
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raginredneck said:
im confused on dosing liquid clen . it says 200mcg per ml / how would you break that down to 40mcg
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Use a syringe its more accurate, and if you got it from ag guys its strong as hell. If you don't eat any or take any kind of stimulant or drink coffee or anything like myself then start out at 20mcg for the first day or too just to see how you react. If you can't get a syringe, when it was measured out it was 9-10 drops = 20mcg= 1/10 full dropper.
 
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surferstar said:
Use a syringe its more accurate, and if you got it from ag guys its strong as hell. If you don't eat any or take any kind of stimulant or drink coffee or anything like myself then start out at 20mcg for the first day or too just to see how you react. If you can't get a syringe, when it was measured out it was 9-10 drops = 20mcg= 1/10 full dropper.
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Very well put bro, you have to start off slow with clen, too many folks just jump in. :coffee:
 
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ok thanx, 1/10 = 20mcg so doin a full dropper is out. a bottle of this should last a long time. that just seems like a small amount. im ordering some now with t3. i hope it taste better than there fem
 
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raginredneck said:
ok thanx, 1/10 = 20mcg so doin a full dropper is out. a bottle of this should last a long time. that just seems like a small amount. im ordering some now with t3. i hope it taste better than there fem
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Both taste fine, i just put it in a little bit of OJ. don't taste it. start out at 20mcg then increase every day or EOD till the sides are too much then back down a notch and keep it there, then taper down. Theres A ton of posts on how to cycle this.
 
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surferstar said:
Both taste fine, i just put it in a little bit of OJ. don't taste it. start out at 20mcg then increase every day or EOD till the sides are too much then back down a notch and keep it there, then taper down. Theres A ton of posts on how to cycle this.
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surferstar, said it all, good man :coffee:
 
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If running T3 with clen should the dosage of both change? What would be the best dosages for each when stacking? Thanks
 
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Topside said:
If running T3 with clen should the dosage of both change? What would be the best dosages for each when stacking? Thanks
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This is what Makavelli had suggested to me. You need to start off the T3 at 25 mcgs/day and increase by one tab every fourth day.
Go up to 75mcgs/day and stay there.
For clen start off at 40mcgs/day and increase by 20 mcgs/day every 2-3 days
until the sides aren't tolerable.
 
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Whew! I just ran through this entire thread and I'm exhausted but satisfied. I did this because I've never done Clen before (let alone liquid clen), just received 2 free bottles from AG, and refused to take any until I learned more. I am 10 times more informed than I was 2 hours ago (:))

Thanks to Mr. X for keeping it bumped, and to everyone who kept asking questions. Karma your way, Mr. X (what little I can give, lol)
 
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Thanks Mr.X. I do not need to diet too much to stay lean, but do i really need to stack clen and t3 together or can i get away with just diet and clen.
 
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Topside said:
Thanks Mr.X. I do not need to diet too much to stay lean, but do i really need to stack clen and t3 together or can i get away with just diet and clen.
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Clean Diet will get you very far. Also there's a possibility of a rebound effect if you don't have a clean diet. So unless you do, I wouldn't even suggest taking it. If you have a very low BF already and just need a couple trouble spots then Trex, Yes works great. Best of all you won't be shaking all day. Gl
 
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Topside said:
Thanks Mr.X. I do not need to diet too much to stay lean, but do i really need to stack clen and t3 together or can i get away with just diet and clen.
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#1) diet
#2-...) is everything else

Diet is key bro.
 
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surferstar said:
Clean Diet will get you very far. Also there's a possibility of a rebound effect if you don't have a clean diet. So unless you do, I wouldn't even suggest taking it. If you have a very low BF already and just need a couple trouble spots then Trex, Yes works great. Best of all you won't be shaking all day. Gl
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Exactly! clean diet (dial it in) is the way to go. :coffee: Clen , T3 etc.. are just aids; diet is #1.
 
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