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Lift big to get big? What do YOU think??

Do you have to lift heavy to get big?


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swordfish151 said:
BULKING = GO HEAVY
CUTTING = GO HEAVY

For everything else....go buy you one of those purdy bow-flexes :rainbow:


Like someone else said on here a Bowflex is only good for hanging your clothes on! The commercials are so funny like that person got that body from a Bowflex!
 
jafo said:
I firmly believe that every day in the gym is a heavy day ....

but I laugh at the guys that come in throw a ton of weight on the bar grunt and grown real loud ( to make sure everybody is watching them lift this impressive amount) and thats it 1 maybe 2 reps then they stand around the rest of the time talking… what a joke
I laugh at the guys who do all that, yet only do a quarter rep. I swear I've seen guys only move the bar 3 inches.
 
thelion2005 said:
You do not have to lift heavy to get big. You have to stimulate, teardown and rebuild.

Chest for example ... You can build a 50 inch chest with three pec exercises, one rib cage and three back exercises, and never have to go over 175 bb or 45 db.

Says YOUR genetics my friend.
 
swordfish151 said:
Says YOUR genetics my friend.
I agree, lift heavy 6-8 reps I`m, 6`00 250lbs 17-23% bf by design because of my jobs. This is whithout cycling but i am studying and researching for my
first cycle.
 
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Lift heavy? You will not get much hypertrophy near your 1RM. If lifting heavy got you bigger, then how could powerlifters increase their bench or dead between comps without changing weight classes? The fact is if you lift heavy doubles or triples like I do to cycle up for push-pulls you will not gain much size, say arm size. Powerlifters are not that big at all in proportion to their 1 rep max lifts. Hypertrophy is best achieved at 60-85% of your maximum with a lot more volume. I'm actually doing a hypertrophy cycle after months of westside. My bodyweight and measurements are changing weekly now, but I did not budge my weight at all while doing westside despite increasing my bench 22%. Most of the adaptations to maximum effort training are fiber transitions (ST - FT), neurological adaptations and form improvements.

So lifting very heavy, near your max will not make you big. It will make you strong. Working out 60-85% of your maxes at a high volume is the best way to increase muscle size.

That being said, I believe that going near 80% gives a thicker physique than the guys who coast around 60%. Franco, Lou, Ronnie, Dorian, etc prove this.

Let's take a bodybuilder who's one-rep max squat is 425lbs. This is a good beginner/low-intermediate squat number. That bodybuilder will get a lot more size doing light sets of 75% of his one-rep max (which means 4 sets of 10 at 315lbs (75%)) than he will going heavy at 95% (doing 2 sets of 2 at 405lbs). There just isn't enough volume for good growth stimulus going heavy (95%) as there is when going light (75%).

Anyone who wants to read about all the latest training theories and periodizations along these lines should check out Tudor Bompa's (the Romanian Olympic weight training coach and trainer of 11 medalists) book Serious Strength Training, the second edition. It has EMG studies of exercises, explanation of hypertrophy, mixed, and max effort/powerlifting phases to blend to your satisfaction and goals. Very interesting read, even if you ultimately discard it for yourself.
 
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Outtlaw said:
I laugh at the guys who do all that, yet only do a quarter rep. I swear I've seen guys only move the bar 3 inches.
LMAO at this ...and it never fails they are the ones that want to try and correct your/someone’s form and act as if they know it all
 
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