Lets talk legal steroids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dabuffguy]

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If some one wanted something to take as a bridge but was really ligth no the body. I would go with dermacrine. I used to do this before I said fuck it and stayed on. I do not believe in bridging.You are ether on or off aas, but not aas and its the safest bridge there is. Not only that it works and you ether lose nothing,gain some,or lose very very little well using it as a bridge.

Btw guys I got discount codes on all these dame products. If you are thinking about ordering just come and ask me. I will give you a little push

I didn't get the impression he was "bridging" at all. Rather, he wants to run another (legal) cycle starting in october (after his current PCT) like he said, until his next injectable cycle for next summer. This wouldn't be a bridge, but a legal cycle before his next tren/test injectable coming next spring or whenever. I too think bridging is a lame concept. Always thought that. See my posts in the Ross threads and bridging. not an advocate at all.





To GDF, bro you cannot stay on these products from October until march. The methylated componds are a max 6 weeks, and non methyls max 8 weeks just like any illegal oral aas.

For a great legal stack, cyclotren 3/day and monsterdrol 3/day for 6 weeks will do you right. Might as well run test prop @ 100mg EOD with it, and leave out on the cyclotren though. But, if you don't want to use illegals, then this is the way to go. Hurry up on the cyclo-tren though, because next month it is going to be really hard to find.

As for PCT, I suggest what you would do normally on illegal aas.

 

[needtogetaas]

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O I know bro. The fact that he wanted to stay on them so long got me thinking though.

 

[needtogetaas]

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If any one wants to get a discount on products like this send me a pm. As always I got the hook up
for it. Also I can help walk you threw it as well.

 

[needtogetaas]

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some one add some tags to this thread. I will admit I don't know how.

 

[GDF]

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I didn't get the impression he was "bridging" at all. Rather, he wants to run another (legal) cycle starting in october (after his current PCT) like he said, until his next injectable cycle for next summer. This wouldn't be a bridge, but a legal cycle before his next tren/test injectable coming next spring or whenever. I too think bridging is a lame concept. Always thought that. See my posts in the Ross threads and bridging. not an advocate at all.





To GDF, bro you cannot stay on these products from October until march. The methylated componds are a max 6 weeks, and non methyls max 8 weeks just like any illegal oral aas.

For a great legal stack, cyclotren 3/day and monsterdrol 3/day for 6 weeks will do you right. Might as well run test prop @ 100mg EOD with it, and leave out on the cyclotren though. But, if you don't want to use illegals, then this is the way to go. Hurry up on the cyclo-tren though, because next month it is going to be really hard to find.

As for PCT, I suggest what you would do normally on illegal aas.

DBG,

You are exactly right. I was not trying to bridge rather just have a legal cycle through the winter. My wife isn't to cool with me doing the illegals so this is a great alternative. I also was planning to do 6 week cycles of these. Needto helped me out with the program. Good lookin' out bro, I appreciate it!!

 

[needtogetaas]

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DBG,

You are exactly right. I was not trying to bridge rather just have a legal cycle through the winter. My wife isn't to cool with me doing the illegals so this is a great alternative. I also was planning to do 6 week cycles of these. Needto helped me out with the program. Good lookin' out bro, I appreciate it!!

Any time bro You tell us how it went, and when its over you tell others to go ahead and look me up. I will help them out to. Its my job bratha Always here for you guys in every way.

 

[superclock]

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I agree that if a product does not tell you on the bottle what the active ingredient is, it isn't worthy of even looking into.

If you get a product that has a chemical name that looks similar to one of these posted, it is probably legit. always check or ask someone.


When you see "Etiochalan", it is another way to say "5-androstan"




The products that have been given solid positive reviews and I can guarantee will bring results are:

RPN Havoc(or equal compound)-2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol

Superdrol 'n clones(Monsterdrol, M-drol, and many others)2a, 17a, Dimethyl-Etiocholan-3-one, 17b-ol (this product is exactly Masteron, but methylated to be orally active. However, it doesn't exactly behvave like masteron. D-bol is chemically equal to EQ with the addition of alkylation to make it orally active, but we know that dbol and EQ behave quite differently.

Cyclotren(and equal compounds) Estra-4,9 diene-3 17 dione

Halodrol50/H-drol(equal compound) - 4-chloro-17a-methyl-androst-1, 4-diene-3-17b-diol

Phera-plex and clones(p-plex etc.)-17a-Methyl-Etioallocholan-2-Ene-17b-Ol

there are some others, but these are the best. P-plex and superdrol clones are the most pronounced in their effects. Definitely the strongest 2 available.

Dumb question...which regular AAS does each prohormone attempt to mimic? I get that Cyclotren is sort of like trenbolone, Monsterdrol/Superdrol are kinda like Masteron, but what about the others like Havoc, Pheravol, etc?

 

[needtogetaas]

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Dumb question...which regular AAS does each prohormone attempt to mimic? I get that Cyclotren is sort of like trenbolone, Monsterdrol/Superdrol are kinda like Masteron, but what about the others like Havoc, Pheravol, etc?

They do not attempt bro. They are the real thing just in oral form.

 

[superclock]

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They do not attempt bro. They are the real thing just in oral form.

I ask only because I know nothing about AAS. It would be interesting for me to be able to research the AAS equivalents. I've checked out Trenbolone and Masteron and the information is very helpful. What are the equivalents of Havoc and Pheravol?

 

[needtogetaas]

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I ask only because I know nothing about AAS. It would be interesting for me to be able to research the AAS equivalents. I've checked out Trenbolone and Masteron and the information is very helpful. What are the equivalents of Havoc and Pheravol?

Decoding steroids and prohormones…(how to read the long chemical names)




Generally, what we know about a steroid, or at least part of that, is “coded” in its name [the part written like this at the start of my profiles for steroid.com]. If you look in the name of a steroid, and it’s something like this:


2-oxy androstane 17b-ol 2-one

(the chemical name for Anavar)


See the bold part? That means it’s a DHT-derivative, with regards to its base carbon structure. Androstane denotes being derived from DHT.


If it said:


Norandrostene 17b-ol 3-one

(Nandrolone)


Then you know the norandrostene part means it’s derived from Nandrolone (likewise, generally, if you see 19-nor or something like that)

And finally, if you see the words testosterone—duh—or androstene (note that this is “stene” and not “stane”) in the name of the structure, then you know it’s derived from testosterone.



Testosterone, Dihydrotestosterone, and 19-nor Testosterone are what I call the 3 families of anabolic steroids. That term isn’t in any medical textbook, and I pretty much made it up, but it’s now an accepted term on most message boards - and it’s accurate enough for our purposes.




Now, for an example of how this might also be written, we’ll take a steroid like Boldenone (Eq) again and we can figure out a few things about it.


Look at the name:


BOLDENONE
-or-
(17b-ol 1, 4-androstadiene-3-one,)

-or-
Equipoise


And what we see is that it starts with “BOL” and the chemical name begins with 17b-ol, hence, “BOL.”


See what I’m talking about?


17b-ol 1,4-androstadiene-3-one


Next we see “DEN” (because the word is Bol-Den-One if you break it apart). Looking in the middle of Boldenone’s chemical name we find something similar:


17b-ol 1,4-androstadiene, 3-one


And finally we have “ONE” at the end of Boldenone, and clearly, the chemical name also has “One” at the very end:


17b-ol 1,4-androstadiene-3-one


So, what does all of this tell us? Well, since it starts with 17b-ol we know that its got something going on at the 17beta position, which is an “ol” and is a Hydroxy (oxygen and hydrogen) group. This is where our esterification (added ester) at the 17-beta-position goes. Now, we also have the middle part, androstadiene, which indicates that this steroid has a double carbon bond on the base of a testosterone’s steran nucleus or a di-bond on androstene. In this particular case, the double carbon bond at this position slows aromatization. Eq, as we know, aromatizes to a far lesser degree than testosterone because of this modification. Remember from the beginning of my explanation on all of this that androstene indicates testosterone as a base structure.

Add it all up and we have Boldenone. This is called Equipoise and its name comes from the Latin root of the word Equine, and as you already know, Equipoise (Eq) was developed to give to horses.


Now, if we look at Eq (boldenone) and compare it to Dianabol, (methandrostenolone), we can see how similar they are.

Equipoise:

(17b-ol 1,4-androstadiene-3-one )

And now Dianabol (similarities in italics, difference noted in black/bold):

(17a-methyl-17b-ol 1,4-androstadiene-3-one )


As you can see, the only difference between Dianabol and Eq is the 17a-Methyl group, which is why Dianabol is called a Methylated steroid; it has been 17-alpha-alkylated to survive oral ingestion.



And this, should tell us a few things. When you compare the minor difference in names with the major differences in effects concerning Dianabol vs. Eq) we discover that names aren’t everything…but they give us a good starting point to figure out what something does, or at least what it’s derived from.