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LATS...how to make the HUGE?
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Hey guys.
I´m a danish powerlifter, and I enjoy beeing in this board because I think I learn alot. But I have a question. This qoute is from Hannibals reply:
Besdies the back work that powerlifters do is to increase their bench. And in order to do that they have to work in the same plane as they bench in.
How is it, that strong lats affects your bench??? As far as I now, lats are for pulling, and bench demands strong pushing muscles.
I´m a danish powerlifter, and I enjoy beeing in this board because I think I learn alot. But I have a question. This qoute is from Hannibals reply:
Besdies the back work that powerlifters do is to increase their bench. And in order to do that they have to work in the same plane as they bench in.
How is it, that strong lats affects your bench??? As far as I now, lats are for pulling, and bench demands strong pushing muscles.
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big bad lats
i shoved the link to why having developed lats works for improving your bench in a previous post about lat training. But here it is again. they say if you repeat something 3 times it sticks forever.
Dave Tate wrote in Testosterone Magazine the following
"I'm talking about the horizontal plane here. In other words, you must perform rows, rows, and more rows. "If you want to bench big then you need to train the lats." I've heard both George Hilbert and Kenny Patterson say this for years when asked about increasing the bench press. When you bench you're on a horizontal plane. So would it make sense from a balance perspective to train the lats with pulldowns, which are on a vertical plane? Nope. Stick to the barbell row if you want a big bench."
Other articles about it refer to providing a more stable 'base' on the bench, as well as one quote thus "stand with your arms out in front of you as if you were benching, then flex your lats, watch as your arms move forward and learn why they help in benching"
Im not at the level of which to know that this makes or breaks a big bench, but im rowing and loving it.
http://www.testosterone.net/html/body_115b600.html
i shoved the link to why having developed lats works for improving your bench in a previous post about lat training. But here it is again. they say if you repeat something 3 times it sticks forever.
Dave Tate wrote in Testosterone Magazine the following
"I'm talking about the horizontal plane here. In other words, you must perform rows, rows, and more rows. "If you want to bench big then you need to train the lats." I've heard both George Hilbert and Kenny Patterson say this for years when asked about increasing the bench press. When you bench you're on a horizontal plane. So would it make sense from a balance perspective to train the lats with pulldowns, which are on a vertical plane? Nope. Stick to the barbell row if you want a big bench."
Other articles about it refer to providing a more stable 'base' on the bench, as well as one quote thus "stand with your arms out in front of you as if you were benching, then flex your lats, watch as your arms move forward and learn why they help in benching"
Im not at the level of which to know that this makes or breaks a big bench, but im rowing and loving it.
http://www.testosterone.net/html/body_115b600.html
FLex -- you are really out of line here. What makes a contest a "legitamate one" I am curious what you consider legitimate. I have yet to win a national meet -- yet I still consider myself a powerlifter. Am I wrong? I have lifted in many meets and doen pretty good. I also have a friend who has been competing for about 12 years or so. He lifts at 275 but is nto real strong. He squats under 500, maybe a 300lb bench and pulls almost 600. BY what you are saying he is not a powerlifter. I say he is the heart and soul of powerlifting. he never, never quits. He busts his ass every workout. If any of us worked as hard as he did we would have won a world title by now. He can train at my gym anytime he wants because he knows how to work hard just to gain 5 shitty pounds. WHile you are in Orlando you are more than welcome to come on over -- I am about 40minutes due east of Orlando. Maybe you can show me what a powerlifter is like. Somehow, I highly doubt you will show.
Imnotdutch
butler monkey
Flex,
You are in serious danger of making a complete fool of yourself. You are calling out the wrong person!! I'm not sure that I could put a real-life name to Hannibal but if you read his posts it is very clear that he knows exactly what he is doing when it comes to powerlifting. Do yourself a favour a do a search in this forum for his name......then come back and tell us your opinion.
I suspect that if he were to post all of his contests and top 3 positions in good competitions it would be be pretty impressive. I'm sure that the guys who have either met or figured out who Hannibal is wil be glad to back that up.
You asked "why compete when you can place in the top 3?" If you had entered a powerlifting competition and felt the atmosphere you would know. I think psychologists call it intrinsic motivation.
The last half of your message is hardly worth reading. Some people are committed enough to do nothing but their sport.....that sort of dedication is what makes you a winner. Why did you have to bring your wage into this? What has that, and what Hannibals reads or writes for that matter, have to do with his knowledge of powerlifting? What does the former capital of Germany have to do with putting up huge weights......besides any smart person would just do a search on the web!!
BTW your 475 deadlift isnt exactly huge!! If that is a measure of your ab strength then you are kidding yourself by saying that your abs are stronger than 99.9% of other lifters abs.
Last point.....it would be a good idea for you to lift with Hannibal.....but I hope you like humble pie.
You are in serious danger of making a complete fool of yourself. You are calling out the wrong person!! I'm not sure that I could put a real-life name to Hannibal but if you read his posts it is very clear that he knows exactly what he is doing when it comes to powerlifting. Do yourself a favour a do a search in this forum for his name......then come back and tell us your opinion.
I suspect that if he were to post all of his contests and top 3 positions in good competitions it would be be pretty impressive. I'm sure that the guys who have either met or figured out who Hannibal is wil be glad to back that up.
You asked "why compete when you can place in the top 3?" If you had entered a powerlifting competition and felt the atmosphere you would know. I think psychologists call it intrinsic motivation.
The last half of your message is hardly worth reading. Some people are committed enough to do nothing but their sport.....that sort of dedication is what makes you a winner. Why did you have to bring your wage into this? What has that, and what Hannibals reads or writes for that matter, have to do with his knowledge of powerlifting? What does the former capital of Germany have to do with putting up huge weights......besides any smart person would just do a search on the web!!
BTW your 475 deadlift isnt exactly huge!! If that is a measure of your ab strength then you are kidding yourself by saying that your abs are stronger than 99.9% of other lifters abs.
Last point.....it would be a good idea for you to lift with Hannibal.....but I hope you like humble pie.
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Cubanito17
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Hey flex I personally don't know hannibal but from what i've read i'll take his opinion and try it out at least any day. He knows what he's talkin bout and I consider myself a PowerLifter b/c I train hard for it and it's all about strength to me and I don't compete in any of the meets b/c I feel I'm not ready yet but I do compete in my HS competitions and I have friends that are 17 and deadlift more than 475lbs if you think that 475 is big.
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