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katanadrol v2.0

pacio14

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hi guys ! i will most likely run a katanav2.0 cycle soon and i'd like to get more comments about it . I've read a lot of threads on boards including rick oshea's log . I'm looking to put a nice and dry 5-7 lbs on the scale with a drop in bf without sides as much as possible. i like the fact that katana is mild especially on the liver . does anyone had the kind of results i want on katanav2.0 ? i've also thought of helladrol and epistrong but i think that there would be more sides with those 2.

stats: 23 years old, training for 4-5 years, 5'11 185, 11%bf, diet is in check. never taken any ph's before. first timer.

thank you guys !
 
Hey man, I guess since you read it, you know I loved it. Side free even at 2 weeks of 350mg a day. I'd run it for 6 weeks at 250mg and you'd be fine. Make sure your diet is focused on lean gains and yeah I think 5-10lbs is completely feasible.
 
kdrol cycle suggestion
1-6 kdrol 250 mgs
1-6 need2guard

PCT
Hcgenerate or double dose of bridge
forma stanzol
unleashed/post cycle
since kdrol is mild the cycle is pretty straight forward if you need to pick any of these products up use thenightmare2125 for 25% off at ntbm or needto10 at mrsupps
 
thanks guys for the quick reply ! how about 4 weeks instead of 6 because i'd have to buy an extra bottle right ? i've already planned post-cycle and unleashed combo for pct . Is forma stanozol really needed since katana is mild or the postcycle unleashed is enough ?
 
four weeks is fine i was just going with six because rick suggested it i would really suggest the forma and bridge double dose if you dont run a propert pct you can lose your gains as well as have some funky test issues sometimes
 
If you cant afford it no problem, but if you can I think the extra two weeks is definitely worth it.
forma I would also suggest. Mild yes but not side proof.
 
alright ! that sounds good .. I already have forged bromo from mr.supps on hand right now .. can i take that instead of forma stanzol ?
 
kdrol cycle suggestion
1-6 kdrol 250 mgs
1-6 need2guard

PCT
Hcgenerate or double dose of bridge
forma stanzol
unleashed/post cycle
since kdrol is mild the cycle is pretty straight forward if you need to pick any of these products up use thenightmare2125 for 25% off at ntbm or needto10 at mrsupps

I really like this set up.

I'd even add in dermacrine from RLS while you're on the kdrol. When ever i've ran oral only cycles the addition of derma has made a world of difference for me. Zero lethargy and my sex drive stays through the roof. Derma is a solid base that is similar to running test with these oral only cycles.

Good luck to you bro and please give us your final review.
 
I'm thinking about using it myself.I'm jus interested in dropping bf and don't wanna gonna gain any size.is it similiar to tbol that made me get huge.

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thanks guys! i will make a review..still not sure to use formastanzol though..do i really have to . i have extra sensitive skin don't want to try that at all.. already know the outcome
 
why would formastanzol be needed health wise then ?? is forma so popular to keep the gains more than anything ??
 
why would formastanzol be needed health wise then ?? is forma so popular to keep the gains more than anything ??

Yea that is the theory behind forma I heard it's pretty awesome I'll be trying it out at the end of this cycle I'm on....beastdrol and katanadrol and I will not be using an AI
 
As far as I know katanadrol has no gyno sides....so in turn no need for a AI I could be completely wrong but from what I've read that's what I understand

clomifene citrate is a SERM, not an AI.
the idea behind using a serm in pct is to help with recovery as fast as possible.

for a cycle like this, you definitely won't need it. you could honestly run post cycle/unleashed/sustain and be fine. to be REAL honest, you could probably run post cycle/unleashed/ and a natty booster like hcgenerate, t-force, or phyotserms and recover just fine.
alot of guys who use a serm in pct are WAY overdoing it anyways.

and bren... torimefene citrate > clomid, nolva, or anything else. much safer. :)
 
alright i wont use any AI for my katanadrol cycle.. i stillhave one in hand .. ! would i need a AI for epistrong only cycle or monsterdrol XT only cycle
 
clomifene citrate is a SERM, not an AI.
the idea behind using a serm in pct is to help with recovery as fast as possible.

for a cycle like this, you definitely won't need it. you could honestly run post cycle/unleashed/sustain and be fine. to be REAL honest, you could probably run post cycle/unleashed/ and a natty booster like hcgenerate, t-force, or phyotserms and recover just fine.
alot of guys who use a serm in pct are WAY overdoing it anyways.

and bren... torimefene citrate > clomid, nolva, or anything else. much safer. :)

Fareston

Chemical Name: Toremifene Citrate
Drug Class: Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator


Fareston is a Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator (SERM), not unlike its more popular cousins Nolvadex and Clomid. Just as we see with Nolvadex, Fareston is used to treat breast cancer in post-menopausal women. It does this by exerting estrogen antagonistic effects in certain tissue, most notably, breast tissue. This is actually the same mechanism of action found in Nolvadex. This is why Nolvadex is often recommended to bodybuilders who are trying to avoid gynocomastia (growth of breast tissue in males). SERMs, in addition, have several other well known effects in men, which are not simply limited to preventing the abnormal growth of breast tissue.

At the hypothalamus and pituitary, estrogen acts in cooperation with the male body’s negative feedback loop to send a signal to decrease the secretion of LH, and when LH secretion is lowered, so are natural testosterone levels. SERMs, like Fareston, possibly act as an estrogen antagonist in the hypothalamus and pituitary, in order to increase testosterone production. Thus, although it hasn’t been studied to any great degree, it’s highly likely that Fareston is capable of increasing testosterone in the same way that Nolvadex it, as it’s androgenicity:estrogenicity ratio is 5x that of Nolvadex(1). It may also be better than Nolvadex for reasons that are of particular interest to steroid using athletes and bodybuilders.

Fareston differs from Nolvadex in several ways, however- even though it’s very similar to it in others. Firstly, the risk of certain side effects (although relatively rare with Nolvadex) is actually quite a bit lower with Fareston.However unlikely these risks are in the first place, the risk of stroke, pulmonary embolism, and cataract is probably lower with Fareston than with Nolvadex. This is going to be of interest to people who have issues with “floaters” in their vision, which is sometimes caused by Nolvadex and Clomid, as this product may represent significantly less occular toxicity. It also differs slightly from Nolvadex in its potent with regards to improving lipid (cholesterol) profiles. In terms of improving bone mineral density, Fareston is roughly equal to Nolvadex.(2)

Although anecdotal evidence on this compound is rare, bodybuilders who have already experimented with this stuff seem satisfied. In my estimation, it would seem to be a more potent and safer alternative to Nolvadex, for those who are worried about side effects. I’m also predicting that it may provide a greater increase in LH and therefore testosterone levels, in men when compared to Nolvadex (when an appropriate dose of each is utilized). This makes its use a strong possibility for PCT in the future, when studies on its ability to elevate testosterone is more fully studied and understood.

Fareston would also make a welcome addition to a cycle where Cholesterol issues may be a concern, or where something slightly stronger than Nolvadex may be required to prevent gyno.

References:

javascript:AL_get(this, 'jour', 'Breast Cancer Res Treat.');1. Breast Cancer Re Treat. 1990 Aug;16 Suppl:S3-7. Introduction to toremifene. Kangas L.

2. Breast 2006 Apr;15(2):142-57. Epub 2005 Nov 9.Toremifene: An evaluation of its safety profile. Harvey HA, Kimura , MHajba A


it mentions the decrease in lh secretion that to me is scary, also its not comparing to clomid only nolva i wouldnt use nolva for pct off of a dht derivative anyways?

i ask why is it better then clomid, humbly.
 
It says estrogen lowers the lh and fareston decreases the estrogen in the pituitary. Im guessing torem is better for gyno than clomid and better at restoring your shutdown testes than nolva. It all sounds good but I heard that its more liver toxic even though this says nothing like that, they all are liver toxic im guessing right there all drugs
 
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