I was joking bro...cmonjpt said:do you realize how gheeeeeeeey you sound HAHAHAHAAAAA!!!! your like a 12 year old boy...do the whole board a favor and go take your meds baby
then you are forgivenJKurz1 said:I was joking bro...cmon

hahaha....thx bro. don't think i can get to 6% naturally...maybe some winny in my near futureal420 said:Personally, and I am not a heffer but a lard ass testosterone filled bull, I would take the above as a compliment - NO ONE @ 6% is strong, fast, or for that matter hydrated!
BTW - you look great in the pic(s). I prefer the drunken joy ride pick. I bet your soon to be wife enjoys all the bitches staring at your abs on the honeymoon (code name: assplay trip)

#1. No oral only cycles.jpt said:hahaha....thx bro. don't think i can get to 6% naturally...maybe some winny in my near future![]()
p.s. my fiance can take a wiffle bat to the ass very nicely![]()

hahaha....i would bever really turn to gear. just not worth the risks for me...plus i have a bad track record with gear....when i was 20 i went on a cycle of deca/test...was on it for a week and a half and my mom found the syringes and bottles....she thought i was on ike heroine or some shii...i was like ma relax it's just steroid hahaha. anyway...i wouldn;t go on a cycle unless my doc prescribed it for me for my back and shoulder problemssgtslaughter said:#1. No oral only cycles.
#2. OMG! That's hawt![]()
jpt said:anyway...i wouldn;t go on a cycle unless my doc prescribed it for me for my back and shoulder problems
jpt said:hmmmmm...not sure. i got my bloodwork done about 6 months ago...you know typical chol, tri, etc etc..... i would bet they are pretty low. i should be prob do something about that..
jpt said:al- did you have any idea your were deficient in test? low libido? not alot of energy? if i had a doc prescribe me some test and it was for legit medicinal purposes i would seriously consider doing it...
def something to consider bro...i do think i have an extremely hard time putting on muscle...while i can put on junk weight extremely easy. i have an addictive peronality and if i start cycling test i may never come off haha. thanks for the advice brutha...some good info up in here!al420 said:No. I was about to jump on a cycle and went in to get my blood work done (had never cycled before). Blood work canme back at or around 280'ish on Test. My doc told me at that point I would be a candidate for HRT and gave me a local Endo's name - never used it as I am self employed and crap like that costs $1000 easy in doc visits before you get anything decent.
You need to get your blood work done and specifically ask about your free test levels. If they are low put yourself on HRT - if you can easily get a script do it, but buying from pharmacies is really expensive IMO.
jk, post a current pic *edit* I want to see what you're worried aboutJKurz1 said:.first time I will have lost my abs
jp
hit the juicy juice... You KNOW you want to. you can't lift heavy-heavy (or that be your focus cuz of ur back), so may as well get growth from other stimulus.seeing your abs dissappear is tough but deal with it...it's necessary to bulk up...and yeah post a pic! let us judgeJKurz1 said:LOW TEST IS VERY COMMON.....Its gona be 6 months for me to get into an endo for him to tell me that and give me the dumb wssted patch......SO, I'm taking into my owns hands....running this pct, wait till a special day in Fenraru and then blowing the doors off......Sarge, you weren't fat compared to what might happen to me....not fat per say, but from 160 to 200 (my goal) it's gonna be some fat.......from 2950 cals to 4500 will prob send me into the depression state from hell..
thank god Im stiackd on Xanax....going to the store now to get a boat lod of big tees and sweats.....no bully buldging....first time I will have lost my abs (I HOPE I CAN HOLD onto TWO!) for years, but what is the definition of insanity???? Doing te same thing over and over and over with the same results....skipping am cardio did NTHING......just a point that cardio has very very very little of anything to do with this equation.....
MAYBE the final 5 weeks, but no more than that......
go spank sarge with a rusty screw driver....heard he's into that shit
"i got the juice now" great movie.....omar epps..huge star!
JKurz1 said:huh??? I dont sep. the two, was that directed towards me?? I eat with them, my parents are both more cauitous about their food consumption than I am...well, almost.....I go to clubs, raves, etc......just don't booze.....I'm not a hermit by any means bro.......cutting to a degree is SIMPLE....once you reach a point where you stall (i.e. 10%) it's pure hell..........
YES they will.... you have to train them hard and often.... Try it out. Mine used to resemble forearms and then I decided I was going to pound the heck out of them and they are growing, and growing!!! It just takes time and persistance!!jpt said:side note********i just now realized i have not worked calves in over a week....fawking mental lapse in the gym or something..weird. i'll hit these up tonight even though my calves won't ever grow for shit!
hopw often do you work them? i usually hit them 2x per week...maybe i should up it to 3x???treilin said:YES they will.... you have to train them hard and often.... Try it out. Mine used to resemble forearms and then I decided I was going to pound the heck out of them and they are growing, and growing!!! It just takes time and persistance!!
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jpt said:hopw often do you work them? i usually hit them 2x per week...maybe i should up it to 3x???

i know for my body low heavy reps work best...unfortunately that's how i hurt myself in the first place so i try and keep it simple..8-15 rep range depending on what i'm working...and strict form...contractions etc. i have realized through the years that diet is more imprtant then training...so i alsways try to keep that as my number 1 priority b/c of my limitations. it def works!Kabeetz said:JPT.. the biggest key, and always easier said than done, is just trying something different. Maybe different calf exercises, maybe higher reps, maybe lower reps, maybe different sequence. Measure those calves and track the changes. Also are u progressing with the weights u use? The seated calf raise shouldn't f your back up if u maintain form.
Of course bodyfat %, etc. can be a factor in measurements and ur muscles are usualy deflated while cutting anyways, but u should be able to notice significant progress.
Just a thought.
jpt said:sarge- your are evil hahaha. if i go on hrt i may never come off. 10 pounds of rock solid muscle in a few months sounds good to me though lol
jpt said:i just came off a bulk about 2 months ago...i went from 168 to 183 in 4 weeks. i put on weight so easily it's ridiculous...i had to stop b/c my pants and shirts did not fit right anymore...plus for some reason at 183 everyone thought i was 200lbs....i just don't look right i think at that weight. my ideal weight is prob around 175-180 ...right now i'm about 172
am I taller than you?jpt said:i just came off a bulk about 2 months ago...i went from 168 to 183 in 4 weeks. i put on weight so easily it's ridiculous...i had to stop b/c my pants and shirts did not fit right anymore...plus for some reason at 183 everyone thought i was 200lbs....i just don't look right i think at that weight. my ideal weight is prob around 175-180 ...right now i'm about 172
*Bunny* said:am I taller than you?
Well WTF lol you posted in my log I weigh MORE than you ... I thought you were like 6' I wasn't being a smart ass.jpt said:i hate you![]()
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*Bunny* said:Kab, no clue what youre talking about

bunz...i love ya*Bunny* said:Well WTF lol you posted in my log I weigh MORE than you ... I thought you were like 6' I wasn't being a smart ass.![]()
Kab, no clue what youre talking about

"wind benath your wings" LOL!!! too funnysgtslaughter said:You're taller than bunny then when you've got the wind beneath your wings.
You lean bastard... it's funny how stripping the fat off makes one look bigger. It's fun being bloated and filling out big clothes though, lol.
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sgtslaughter said:LMFAO @ Windex application . bwahahahahahaha!
Yah bro... i've learned that shotgunning a Sprite Zero kills hunger pains.
*Bunny* said:subbing in for AL
"ass play"
carry on

I like belching from the carbonation.. dont' take that pleasure away from me.Kabeetz said:Shotgunning a a quarter gallon of good ol' h20 will have the same effect.
jpt said:going to bed hungry blows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Bunny* said:subbing in for AL
"ass play"
carry on

HAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! THE BEARS FAWKING SUCK!ck2006 said:shut up shut up shut up LMAO![]()
you suck...JKurz1 said:I cheated on....................nothing.........sorry

well, last night i wasn't feeling great at all after all that sugar i ate. i haven't pigged out like that in a long time. it was fun while it lasted....back now into the real world. today i feel great! can't wait to hit chest and back tonight and then relax and watch 24 with the lady.*Bunny* said:Nice pig out my friendhow are you feeling today? (not being a smart ass i really want to know)
that's what i think i'm going to do....i have enough energy in the gym from caffeine anyway. i eat my tuna around 4pm...i lift around 5:45pmal420 said:Well if the main goal is body comp then why not ditch the preworkout meal. My main reason for preworkout nutrition is for the lifts, not the need.
IMO you are not eating enough during the day with those meals .. they seem like they are missing something...jpt said:that's what i think i'm going to do....i have enough energy in the gym from caffeine anyway. i eat my tuna around 4pm...i lift around 5:45pm
bunz...i was thinking about adding veggies with my almonds before bed but then in combo i'd be comsuming about 25g of carbs before bed. i used to chow down on carrots....not much in there
WELL A BIG BOOOOOOYA!!!! TO YOU BUNZ!!! I'LL TRY AND ADD MORE TO EACH MEAL THROUGHOUT THE DAY.*Bunny* said:IMO you are not eating enough during the day with those meals .. they seem like they are missing something...
Also, you can eat 10 cups of broc before bed if you wanted to ...
just stay away from the taters, oats, pasta right before bed etc unless you're training in the evening, which I even think you are, so you COULD throw in a 4 oz tato AFTER your shake and BEFORE you fat meal (meal 6) and be fine
probably feel better too
SHE ALREADY HATES ME...I'M NOT ALLOWED BROC OR BEANS SHE SAYS HAHAHA. MY GAS IS SO BAD EVEN MY DOGS STARTS BARKING...I SWARE TO GAWD!*Bunny* said:also, I think the carb rotation is finally having it's affect on your hunger... you can adjust the meals, or deal with it.. also carrots, noooooooooooooooo, NOT BEFORE BED .. they have plenty of health benefits, but for a cutting diet, if you must, early in the day... choose green veggies, broc, green beans, spinach and eat plenty of it... unlimited if you will, unless you get gassy and your fiance gets pissed![]()
stick to the green beans then loljpt said:WELL A BIG BOOOOOOYA!!!! TO YOU BUNZ!!! I'LL TRY AND ADD MORE TO EACH MEAL THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
MEAL 5 ...WHICH IS AFTRE MY PWO SHAKE.... I USUALLY HAVE CHICKEN VEGGIES AND WILD RICE BUT THEN I'M STARVING AGAIN ABOUT AN HOUR LATER WHEN IT'S TIME FOR MY FAT + PROTEIN MEAL (MEAL 6) MOST TIMES ALMONDS DON'T CUT IT....I'LL ADD SOME VEGGIE SIN THERE AND SEE IF THAT HOLDS UP
jpt said:SHE ALREADY HATES ME...I'M NOT ALLOWED BROC OR BEANS SHE SAYS HAHAHA. MY GAS IS SO BAD EVEN MY DOGS STARTS BARKING...I SWARE TO GAWD!
Dutch Ovenal420 said:Do you even push her head under the covers and let one go? My wife has sworn she would leave me if I ever do that again.
hahaha....i used to do that bro...but i have developed a new form of inducing more of a pungent stank. let me tell you something...if done correctly it's like reeanacting hiroshima!al420 said:Do you even push her head under the covers and let one go? My wife has sworn she would leave me if I ever do that again.
Your log is really looking good JP! See if you want to do something and have a goal you can get disciplinedjpt said:torture chamber hahahaa!!! i do that all the time never bothered to patent it.
yesterdays training
chest/back 30 seconds rest btwn sets
incline barbell press 155x12 135x12 115x12
incline db's 55x10 45x12 40x10 (felt weak as shit on these...30 seconds rest is no joke)
incline flyes 30x12 25x12 20x15
dips bwx15 bwx12
incline pushups to failure
pull downs 140x15 120x12 100x12
seated rows 120x15 100x14 80x13
hammer strength rows 3x15
no cardio....had to meet with my dj last night at 7 so i had no time. training legs tonight....looking forward to it!! i can't wait until after my honeymoon this way i can start progressive lifting again. this 30 sec crap is killing me...but it's def cutting me...my heart rate is up the whole time so i'm getting a double dose of cardio
today's diet
meal 1 1/2 cup of cottage cheese
meal 2 6oz of baked chicken
meal 3 6oz of grilled chicken and beans
meal 4 1 can of tuna
PWO ON whey with 1 banana, strwaberries, blueberries and fat free milk (tastes ridiculous)
meal 5 baked chicken and potato with beans
meal 6 mm shake
thx tre...no matter how hard i try it will never look as good as your thoughtreilin said:Your log is really looking good JP! See if you want to do something and have a goal you can get disciplinedGood job... 33 days WHHooowhoooo
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)jpt said:thx tre...no matter how hard i try it will never look as good as your though
al- my chest is one of my weak points b/c of my shoulder injury....in order for me to get a half way decent workout is by sheer volume training and through slow and concentric reps.
the reason my diet is so on point is b/c of my injuries and lack of options when it comes to training. it's been a pretty good balance for me so far and i'm a little amazed at how true the saying "diet is everything" is. ...but i'm def miserable for another 4 weeks. (with a cheat meal here and there)

my life lately has been pretty uneventful....although i did hold the door open for goo boy last week and he mustered up a thank you. loltreilin said:
Thanks J.. So I knocked the PB down the disposal monday and thought about you! LOL No more PB exists around me!
I'm suprised you didn't have any ironic stories that happened around the Superbowl?!?
hahaha...that line will forever make me laugh!!al420 said:Ass play reference...![]()

hahaha...yep. 2 idiots lol. basically on the 3rd set i was out of breath and the lactic acid built up in the front dealts was sickening...the last 2 or 3 reps i kind of jolted it up which is why my neck feels someone put it in a vice. can't wait to stop this 30 sec b.s.Sarge_ said:AHHHH you did it too ya bastard! We gotta stop the neck tweakage on OHPing
Another way to hit the rear delts would be bent over DB's if u wanted to try that... u can do it sitting down too.
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