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75th said:
mitch pls go

inb4 made up figures passed along as facts.
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couple things...

A.) does it matter if figures were made up on non consumer based soil?
2.) does it matter if lobby candy was consumed in excess prior to figures being made up?



please answer me that and then go fuck yourself.


thanks.
 
*serious
 
miplank said:
couple things...

A.) does it matter if figures were made up on non consumer based soil?
2.) does it matter if lobby candy was consumed in excess prior to figures being made up?



please answer me that and then go fuck yourself.


thanks.
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It depends on whether the aforementioned soil was in a country with a huge social safety net.
 
Fuck off dutchbag.
 
75th said:
Was kinda wondering how long it would take before plunkey showed up with a completely retarded and nonsensical hypothetical scenario.
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I was originally going to go with the small-asian-in-a-cheap-suit scenario.
 
That reminds me...Mitch you gotta see the new db. I'll send you pics.

Until then pls be safe.
 
And now back to the topic at hand:

GJohnson:

Can you envision any scenario where someone from a community would be justified to follow someone else, even though they weren't witnessing a crime in progress or had no certain knowledge that person was going to commit a crime?
 
I hope he gets off just because I want to see those idiots riot, tear up their own neighborhood, and kill each other in the name of justice.

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Don't agree but I'm not surprised.

Hopefully those who disagree strongly use their words instead of their hands.
 
I think it's safe to say that Florida should probably have a nuclear weapon detonated right in the middle of the state.
 
mrplunkey said:
So gjohnson, are there any circumstances in your mind where you'd feel justified following someone?

Let's start with an extreme example: If someone dressed in full Klan gear was walking down your street in a very determined way (clearly not just on a stroll), would you feel any justification if you wanted to follow him?
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You're trying to draw some parallels between this situation (I knew The statistics were not in favor of Travon to begin with [Was just hoping for a more realistic verdict])

First things first
1. I'm in the wrong part of town if I see people dressed in Klan outfits
2. The Klan would never show up in my part of town

You scenario would never happen in reality

If the moon just happens to be full and this did happen
following someone is not against the law , but stalking is.
Ultimately neighborhood watch is not intended for those guy to follow people. The ShomRim case in Baltimore speaks to that end. Atleast the Shomrim guy was found guilty of assault.
But this happened in a state where people can atleast make partially sensible decisions
 
gjohnson5 said:
You're trying to draw some parallels between this situation (I knew The statistics were not in favor of Travon to begin with [Was just hoping for a more realistic verdict])

First things first
1. I'm in the wrong part of town if I see people dressed in Klan outfits
2. The Klan would never show up in my part of town

You scenario would never happen in reality

If the moon just happens to be full and this did happen
following someone is not against the law , but stalking is.
Ultimately neighborhood watch is not intended for those guy to follow people. The ShomRim case in Baltimore speaks to that end. Atleast the Shomrim guy was found guilty of assault.
But this happened in a state where people can atleast make partially sensible decisions
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These ( ) go inside of these [ ]
 
A more realistic verdict?

Based upon the fact that there was zero proof that Zimmerman should be found guilty means that the only realistic verdict is not guilty.


I feel bad for the Martins. They lost their son and they will feel no justice for that. The death sentence can't bring him back.

Nobody really won.


But, if Zimmerman was found guilty, the justice system would have failed miserably.
 
gjohnson5 said:
You're trying to draw some parallels between this situation (I knew The statistics were not in favor of Travon to begin with [Was just hoping for a more realistic verdict])

First things first
1. I'm in the wrong part of town if I see people dressed in Klan outfits
2. The Klan would never show up in my part of town

You scenario would never happen in reality

If the moon just happens to be full and this did happen
following someone is not against the law , but stalking is.
Ultimately neighborhood watch is not intended for those guy to follow people. The ShomRim case in Baltimore speaks to that end. Atleast the Shomrim guy was found guilty of assault.
But this happened in a state where people can atleast make partially sensible decisions
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I wasn't asking the likelihood of a clan member showing up for a march across your neighborhood.

What I'm asking is that would you see yourself justified in following him? And what's the difference in "following" and "stalking"?
 
Holy fuk this shit blows me defuq away when u fuckin dicknuts write 5 fuckin paragraphs, do you really think anyone gives a fuck about your stupid fukin opinion Jesus Christ eat a yak dick

Nice who fucking cares life
 
gjohnson5 said:
You're trying to draw some parallels between this situation (I knew The statistics were not in favor of Travon to begin with [Was just hoping for a more realistic verdict])

First things first
1. I'm in the wrong part of town if I see people dressed in Klan outfits
2. The Klan would never show up in my part of town

You scenario would never happen in reality

If the moon just happens to be full and this did happen
following someone is not against the law , but stalking is.
Ultimately neighborhood watch is not intended for those guy to follow people. The ShomRim case in Baltimore speaks to that end. Atleast the Shomrim guy was found guilty of assault.
But this happened in a state where people can atleast make partially sensible decisions
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You mad?

Cool story?
 
75th said:
Don't agree but I'm not surprised.

Hopefully those who disagree strongly use their words instead of their hands.
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Same here, but some mild rioting would make for some good TV. See what kind of bills get passed while we're distracted, etc.

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Not even manslaughter?

Because of the 'stand your ground' laws?

This stretches what can be a lawful homicide to the extremes.

More than 13,000 murders per year, I wonder how many 'lawful' homicides there are that don't show up in the murder statistics.

Seriously, you follow somebody around - you get into a violent altercation, you end end up shooting them dead.

The result: Nothing? Not guilty of anything?

So, how often does this happen? That somebody shoots and kills somebody and it is not ruled an unlawful homicide?

Sounds like a dangerous place up there.













b0und (really)
 
b0und said:
Not even manslaughter?

Because of the 'stand your ground' laws?

This stretches what can be a lawful homicide to the extremes.

More than 13,000 murders per year, I wonder how many 'lawful' homicides there are that don't show up in the murder statistics.

Seriously, you follow somebody around - you get into a violent altercation, you end end up shooting them dead.

The result: Nothing? Not guilty of anything?

So, how often does this happen? That somebody shoots and kills somebody and it is not ruled an unlawful homicide?

Sounds like a dangerous place up there.













b0und (really)
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Youre not in this fucking country, much less the court room, so STFU
 
b0und said:
Not even manslaughter?

Because of the 'stand your ground' laws?

This stretches what can be a lawful homicide to the extremes.

More than 13,000 murders per year, I wonder how many 'lawful' homicides there are that don't show up in the murder statistics.

Seriously, you follow somebody around - you get into a violent altercation, you end end up shooting them dead.

The result: Nothing? Not guilty of anything?

So, how often does this happen? That somebody shoots and kills somebody and it is not ruled an unlawful homicide?

Sounds like a dangerous place up there.













b0und (really)
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you better be careful how you speak to us 'merican's!
 
For what it's worth, you can vote on HuffPo:

Zimmerman Verdict Poll: Do You Agree With The Verdict?

I voted: Zimmerman should have been convicted on manslaughter, but not second-degree murder.

That some guy can appoint himself neighborhood watch guard, follow anyone he deems suspicious around, then kill them when a violent confrontation ensues and still get acquitted is scary.






b0und (really)
 
b0und said:
That some guy can appoint himself neighborhood watch guard, follow anyone he deems suspicious around, then kill them when a violent confrontation ensues and still get acquitted is scary.
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Yup. Again, dangerous precedent being set. What I do appreciate, though, is that the jury reached a conclusion that obviously wasnt swayed by the very public hullabaloo regarding the case. Agree or disagree with the verdict you have to respect the jury deciding it based only on the facts presented to them at trial.

So what's next? He's too young for the GOP to nominate him for president in 2016. Perhaps the party will encourage him to run for a seat in the House?
 
75th said:
Yup. Again, dangerous precedent being set. What I do appreciate, though, is that the jury reached a conclusion that obviously wasnt swayed by the very public hullabaloo regarding the case. Agree or disagree with the verdict you have to respect the jury deciding it based only on the facts presented to them at trial.

So what's next? He's too young for the GOP to nominate him for president in 2016. Perhaps the party will encourage him to run for a seat in the House?
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He should carpet bag to a district he can easily win a house or senate seat a-la Hillary going to NY
 
b0und said:
But they had the option to convict him of manslaughter. The even asked for clarification on the definition of manslaughter.

Jurors In The Zimmerman Trial Ask For Clarification On The Definition Of Manslaughter Charge - Business Insider

To think that he just gets off free after following and killing Martin does not look right.





b0und (seriously)
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OJ walked on double murder bro. Doesnt "look right" but our legal system operates on facts and evidence, not what "feels right".
If you recall Zimmermann wasnt even arrested until public pressure due to the PC media forced a small local law enforcement agency to cave under pressure to charge him. Now look where it got them, embarrased in front of the nation for relying on mob mentality instead of FACTS and EVIDENCE.

Prosecution Fail.
 
IF YOUR BLACK RT THIS WE DOING A RIOT AT MALL OF AMERICA TMRW 2:00 come threw wit a blunt If you can#BOOQ #ZimmermanTrial #WEOUTHERE
 
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