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[metzen]

By going to college you are alot more exposed to the liberal agenda. If you have nothing to stand on and are easily influenced of course you going to take the opinion of a respected teacher that you think must know what he is talking about.
9 out of 10 of my teachers are liberals. You find them mostly in English and other bullshit classes which allow hippies to teach. For instance, my eng102 teacher controlled what topics we could write on. She allowed us to pick from a list of environmental issues which, as I'm sure everyone knows, is a big democratic issue.
She even came out in class and said "I may not be able to tell you how to vote but I can make you think of the issues". Why the fuck are we so worried about the environment failing when we are killing the very people who are going to live here after us? Sounds to me like she has the issues backwards.

And quite frankly alot of the people I met going to school are idiots who just repeat shit they have heard. You should have heard the students that were being interviewed at ASU after the debate in AZ. I felt embasrrassed for them.

Smart and moral people vote for Bush. There I said it.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

metzen it seems to me youre avoiding all the things i said in my previous post. dont you think its a bit rude, i mean, i spent a whole 10 minutes typing, the least you could do is read the damn thing, maybe try to defend your position?

By going to college you are alot more exposed to the liberal agenda. If you have nothing to stand on and are easily influenced of course you going to take the opinion of a respected teacher that you think must know what he is talking about.

lol another way to take your above comment is: "the more you learn about the world, the more you start thinking like a liberal" which then implies that people who are less liberal in their thoughts are more ignorant of the world around them. hm?

9 out of 10 of my teachers are liberals. You find them mostly in English and other bullshit classes which allow hippies to teach. For instance, my eng102 teacher controlled what topics we could write on. She allowed us to pick from a list of environmental issues which, as I'm sure everyone knows, is a big democratic issue.

"allow hippies to teach". how lovely. so you think that your perception and categorisation of a person as a "hippie" supercedes their credentials as a techer? figures.

She even came out in class and said "I may not be able to tell you how to vote but I can make you think of the issues". Why the fuck are we so worried about the environment failing when we are killing the very people who are going to live here after us? Sounds to me like she has the issues backwards.

well all those people DO need somewhere to live, you know.

And quite frankly alot of the people I met going to school are idiots who just repeat shit they have heard. You should have heard the students that were being interviewed at ASU after the debate in AZ. I felt embasrrassed for them.

not to be rude, but who the hell are you to judge a person through hearing them speak a single time?

Smart and moral people vote for Bush. There I said it.

yes, you did.

you forgot the "imo" of course.

 

[UA_Iron]

By going to college you are alot more exposed to the liberal agenda. If you have nothing to stand on and are easily influenced of course you going to take the opinion of a respected teacher that you think must know what he is talking about.
9 out of 10 of my teachers are liberals. You find them mostly in English and other bullshit classes which allow hippies to teach. For instance, my eng102 teacher controlled what topics we could write on. She allowed us to pick from a list of environmental issues which, as I'm sure everyone knows, is a big democratic issue.
She even came out in class and said "I may not be able to tell you how to vote but I can make you think of the issues". Why the fuck are we so worried about the environment failing when we are killing the very people who are going to live here after us? Sounds to me like she has the issues backwards.

And quite frankly alot of the people I met going to school are idiots who just repeat shit they have heard. You should have heard the students that were being interviewed at ASU after the debate in AZ. I felt embasrrassed for them.

Smart and moral people vote for Bush. There I said it.

the fact that you go to ASU seems to be the real issue at hand.

My physics professor voted democrat, my math teacher voted republican. My english 102 teacher a couple years ago was against bush, but he let anyone with a good argument argue with him.

I vote democrat because I dont think these ancient dinosaurs with their conservative policies represent the way I think. I dont agree with a lot of things the republicans stand for...in fact I think they infect the air I breathe.

But without getting too hostile (testosterone + ephedrine...) when this country goes down in flames I'll be laughing and start my own regime.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

By going to college you are A LOT more exposed to the liberal agenda. If you have nothing to stand on and are easily influenced of course you going to take the opinion of a respected teacher that you think must know what he is talking about.
9 out of 10 of my teachers are liberals. You find them mostly in English and other bullshit classes which allow hippies to teach. For instance, my eng102 teacher controlled what topics we could write on. She allowed us to pick from a list of environmental issues which, as I'm sure everyone knows, is a big democratic issue.
She even came out in class and said "I may not be able to tell you how to vote but I can make you think of the issues". Why the fuck are we so worried about the environment failing when we are killing the very people who are going to live here after us? Sounds to me like she has the issues backwards.

And quite frankly A LOT of the people I met going to school are idiots who just repeat shit they have heard. You should have heard the students that were being interviewed at ASU after the debate in AZ. I felt embasrrassed for them.

Smart and moral people vote for Bush. There I said it.

.

 

[metzen]

metzen it seems to me youre avoiding all the things i said in my previous post. dont you think its a bit rude, i mean, i spent a whole 10 minutes typing, the least you could do is read the damn thing, maybe try to defend your position?

lol another way to take your above comment is: "the more you learn about the world, the more you start thinking like a liberal" which then implies that people who are less liberal in their thoughts are more ignorant of the world around them. hm?

"allow hippies to teach". how lovely. so you think that your perception and categorisation of a person as a "hippie" supercedes their credentials as a techer? figures.

well all those people DO need somewhere to live, you know.

not to be rude, but who the hell are you to judge a person through hearing them speak a single time?


yes, you did.

you forgot the "imo" of course.

No I'm saying that if you go to college and do not have a moral strong point then you’re going to be influenced by someone you respect who is supposed to know more then you do. Any idiot that thinks someone is smarter then them is going to try and take on that person beliefs because they think it must be the better way.

You seem to keep confusing intelligence and morality...... They are not the same thing.

Yes, she is a liberal hippie. You wouldn't know because you didn't take her now did you? She came out and said it. So once again you’re forming an opinion without even knowing the subject we are talking about.


And yes it is my opinion that most hippies are dumbasses.
Most of the so called "free love" people of the sixties have moved on to own corporations that they were once so against and have now become the very people that they were fighting .

 

[ManOfArms]

the northeast, upper midwest and west coast. Fucking rednecks love Bush.

So what your trying to say is that you live in the south east?

 

[rushx79]

blah.

 

[metzen]

metzen, your argumentative style is very...bushesque. i begin by pointing out a flaw in the rebuttal you presented to the original poster, and somehow, over the course of two posts, you tangent into a discussion of the IQ grading system. did you take notes while watching your revered (lol) leader debate, by any chance? or are the 14 different brain cells in your head piling upon one another in order to get their point across the keyboard and onto the screen?

bullshit might indeed baffle brains...but not mine. so here we go

id love to say im sorry to do the quoting thing, but...im not.
there were no 'lines' to read between. my posts were clear, concise, and literal. i can hardly say the same of your posts. your posts (i wont say 'argument', i cant be that loose with the word) were confused, meandering, and slightly contradictory, which is making me wonder, at this point in time, if i really want to go to the trouble of picking them apart....then again i am insomnic at the moment...

firstly, even if that were relevent (and it isnt) you cannot make that assumption, for a few reasons. one of those reasons is that despite the IQ throughout a population sample being distributed evenly throughout that population as a group, you cannot assume that IQ will be distributed evenly, geographically. its logical, really...people with different IQs will distribute according to things like the proximity to centers of learning, or to areas dense in industry requiring personell that must by neccessity have a high IQ. genetic factors also come into play...a decent real word example is, say, that greece has produced, by far, the greatest number of men of genius per capita throughout history, than any other nation.

neat, huh? im greek, by the way my ancestors lived around the corner from aristotle, and hippocrates (lol sorry, couldnt help myself)


no, you cannot, actually. the only thing that you may assume in the case of bush being re-elected...is that he won the election. taking a step back from that, you may also be forgiven for thinking that in all likelihood, more people voted for bush. then you could start taking a look at the number of people in a given location, seeing how intelligent the group as a whole, and the distribution of people of higher/lower intelligence, and how the distribution of people across the continent ties into the electoral framework...you know, things like, what state were they in, how many electoral votes that state has, and therefore, the relative weight of a vote in that location, tied to intelligence.

im not a fan of assumptions they lead to fuck ups
you want me to give you an example of one? do you really, really, really want me to?

only if your population sample is, in entirety, the whole of the population of the united states. but then again, the arbitrary assignation of the number 100 to the average IQ of a population being tested for IQ is integral to the whole IQ grading score.

in other words, you just told me jack shit with that comment.

what a...wonderful...point. where are you going with this again? trying to point out the tangent youre on? its ok. the point isnt subtle. i saw it a long way away

fan-tastic.

do you? is that the definition of idiot, then? are you sure you wouldnt like to look up the true definition of the word idiot? here: www.dictionary.com . im fairly sure that the IQ scale wasnt conceived at, or before, the invention of that word.

a couple of things:
1) i dont give a toss if you concede the argument or not. what is it to me if you concede? id rather see you lose, for a start, and 2) apart from that, i really dont give a shit about the argument at all. who are YOU for ME to give a shit? please.

what wonderful reasoning.

for one, i dont trust you, because you dont seem too smart. secondly, it isnt in my interest to trust you...you want to argue, back your shit up. dont ask me to take you at your word. and please stop trying to rehash the IQ scale and use it as part of your argument, since it really doestn tie in properly. youre making statements that you cant back up, when you arent making statements that are flat out irrelevent.

so...how much doees the cumulative IQ of a state change by when you leave town?

and theres my contribution to the pile of pointless posts in response to more pointless posts on EF.

Sorry, I missed this post, I would have responded sooner if I had seen it. I made perfect sense in my post but since you didn’t get it, I’ll dumb it down.

The argument was that the states for that went for Bush was less intelligent then the ones which went for Kerry. Now if a majority of the people who lived in the states that went for Kerry were smatter then everywhere else, don’t you think theirs states average IQ level would be higher because smart people live there?

And wouldn’t it far out exceed the other states IQ averages if a majority of the people with higher IQ’s lived there?

You can reasonably conclude that each state has numerous intelligent people, instead of them all conjugating to the blue states, as the averages are just about even.

What I showed by the IQ averages is there is not much of a difference between the states. So if a majority of the population in the red states were idiots, as you stated, then there should be quite drastic change shouldn’t there be?

I think most people would define an idiot as someone who is mentally retarded. So if majorities of the population are idiots, then I guess most of us are retarded. However the states averages do not show that, instead they show each state with an equal amount of intelligence with the national average being 100. So if everyone in the red states is an idiot or they have more idiots will not theirIQ average be much lower then those of the blue states?

Your statement “idiots out number smart people” is false. As the IQ table’s show people with an IQ of 130+ and those with an IQ of 70- are both within the 2.2 percentile. Rather it would be people of average intelligence far outnumber those of a superior intellect and idiots combined. There are not 1000 geniuses for every 100000000 idiots because the statistics do not show that.

So if everyone in the red states is an idiot then you could conclude people in the blue states are idiots as well because the IQ average is even.

 

[AristotleBC]

People in rural areas have a strong sense of independence; you know, that nice ideal that helped create this country. That plays a big role in how they vote. Simplifying it to IQ vs. the Bible is nice for self worshipping liberals but it doesn't describe the situation.

And they'll continue to lose because of it.

 

[Austin316]

BLAH BLAH BLAH hmmmm one party emphasises doing things for yourself, achieve succes, and don't feel guilty when you have it.

The other tells people its ok to be a failure and its not their fault, its their fathers (or lack of) fault, their race is holding them back, its not their fault they became mass murderes society made them that way. Don't worry about making sure to get the best grades you can and work your ass off, affirmative action has your back and you just need to do OK. This party encourages laziness, castrated the criminal justice system, and hands out crutches by the droves.

Hmmmm I wonder who really is the bright one?