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Is this self defense or murder?

blueta2

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A montreal man is on trial for murdering a Montreal police officer.
Last March, 2007, Montreal police made a middle of the night suprise attack on a suspected drug dealers house. The cops rushed into this guys house where this man, his wife and 2 kids slept.

The man who thought he was being robbed got his gun and shot at the cop who came busting into the room shooting. Suspected drug dealer kills cop.

He's on trial and the jury is out as of last weekend. They can either convict of 1st degree murder, 2nd degree or aquit under the self defense law.

If this guy is convicted of murder, I know the justice system is seriously faulty!


Discuss...........

http://www.nationalpost.com/scripts/story.html?id=562799


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...10/parasiris_trial_080610/20080610?hub=Canada
 
I think that it is self-defense. But it depends on the whole story though. Is that the assumption of the cops. Did he surrender once he realized they were cops. All that plays into affect. Im sorry if it says that in the story, I don't have time to read it. I don't even have time to be on here.
 
Based strictly on what you posted, I say self-defense. It sounds as if the whole situation could have transpired in a few seconds, which may not have been long enough for the "intruders" to identify themselves as police to the guy. That said, the cops on TV are pretty good about announcing their presence before they go in with guns blazing. Maybe things in real life don't go as smoothly. Perhaps one of our many ex cons can comment? ;)
 
balboa29 said:
I think that it is self-defense. But it depends on the whole story though. Is that the assumption of the cops. Did he surrender once he realized they were cops. All that plays into affect. Im sorry if it says that in the story, I don't have time to read it. I don't even have time to be on here.
Oh yeah, when he surrendered, the guy passed out when he realized what he did. He was on every news station apologizing to this cops family.
 
velvett said:
Self defense, though, a lot would depend on what the gun laws are in the area.
we have really tough gun laws up here. SO few people actually own guns. But his guns were registered and legal.
 
blueta2 said:
Oh yeah, when he surrendered, the guy passed out when he realized what he did. He was on every news station apologizing to this cops family.

In that case, definitely self-defense.
 
So, they never found any coke in his house?

If they found coke, I say hang him. IF he's dealing coke outta his house WITH his kids in there; he really has no rights and should be kicked in the head for doing that shit around his kids and putting them in harms way.

IF he is ONLY suspected of dealing coke and they found none, he had every right to protect his family IMHO.
 
I say self defense, but the cops are all screaming he should be convicted of murder.
I can't even believe this went to trial
 
It seems like self defense.. but this is just such a strange case. Especially because it involves the death of a police officer.

So... this may sound crazy... But was he selling drugs? did they even find out? that could make all the difference if he was.
 
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