Is my testosterone permanently suppressed?

[squat-alot]

I'm 27 years old.

I did a total of 5 or 6 cycles over a period of two years. I stuck to test, tren, deca, and dbol and never exceeded 1200 total milligrams per week. I followed what I thought to be proper juicing protocol and I always included proper PCT.

Anyway, I'm 15 months clean now and during that time my strength has declined dramatically. I'm a competitive powerlifter and I am now totalling less than I did prior to my two years of juicing.

Being concerned, I went and had blood work done. It wasn't good. Besides having low HDL levels, my total testosterone was 317 on the first test and only 197 when they re-tested. I'm going to be seing a specialist in the near future, but I'm quite concerned. I don't want to go on permanent HRT. I'd like to have more children and return to drug-tested Powerlifting meets (can't do it on HRT).

Will my testosterone and cholesteral levels continue to improve. Or, after 15 clean months, am I basically screwed?

Thanks.

 

[fergie]

I'm currently in the same position as you so I'm interested in everyones views on this to

 

[paradox]

I'm 27 years old.

I did a total of 5 or 6 cycles over a period of two years. I stuck to test, tren, deca, and dbol and never exceeded 1200 total milligrams per week. I followed what I thought to be proper juicing protocol and I always included proper PCT.

Anyway, I'm 15 months clean now and during that time my strength has declined dramatically. I'm a competitive powerlifter and I am now totalling less than I did prior to my two years of juicing.

Being concerned, I went and had blood work done. It wasn't good. Besides having low HDL levels, my total testosterone was 317 on the first test and only 197 when they re-tested. I'm going to be seing a specialist in the near future, but I'm quite concerned. I don't want to go on permanent HRT. I'd like to have more children and return to drug-tested Powerlifting meets (can't do it on HRT).

Will my testosterone and cholesteral levels continue to improve. Or, after 15 clean months, am I basically screwed?

Thanks.

I reccomend you do a aggressive PCT with HCG, HMG, & clomid.

 

[dline]

better yet try the AM DBol PCT, do a search and you're set. try gettign intouch with Ulter too.


DLine

 

[fergie]

Dbol will only slow his progress,HCG,HMG and clomid is the better way to go

 

[trader]

I reccomend you do a aggressive PCT with HCG, HMG, & clomid.

I agree with this statement. I added some Nolva to the mix with good results. I've been clean for 2 years now and attribute my success to HCG, HMG, clomid and nolva. I tried many different sequences and combos (HCG for 2 weeks then clomid for 4 weeks, then hmg for 2 weeks then nolva for 4 and so on). I haven't bothered to go off the nolva with occasional clomid. Every so often some HCG. Hard to find cheap hmg so good luck with that expense. I'd also suggest buying the powder for clomid and nolva and capping yourself to cut down on cost.

 

[dline]

Dbol will only slow his progress,HCG,HMG and clomid is the better way to go

oops my bad brain fart for some reason he was closer to his cycle ending.. My bad.


DLine

 

[bluetwistedsteel67]

I reccomend you do a aggressive PCT with HCG, HMG, & clomid.

There you go. Run another PCT regiment for 60 days IMO. That's what worked for me. I was shut down like a bitch but I came back around.

 

[Diesel_Smoke]

It should put you at ease to know there are no medically documented cases of people becoming sterile because of steroid use if there was not a problem before their use...

How would anyone know if you're on HRT in your powerlifting competitions unless you tell them? Urine tests alone could not distinguish HRT because the parent hormone with the ester isn't secreted, only it's metabolites... Exogenous testosterone is chemically identical to endogenous testosterone. The only way I believe one could be tested whether one's testosterone is endo or exo is by a blood test which attempts to isolate a estered compound. Anything that is estered is exogenous, without question. Ratios are the only thing that is screened that I am aware of.

How bad was your HDL/LDL ratio?

 

[galaxy]

HDL should be much improved after 15 months. You may require medication to improve it and definately improve your diet. My test was 121 or something like that after 6 months being clean but i went back on.

And dont kid yourself. There are plenty of NFL and MLB players that have gotten permission to use steroids from the league for HRT purposes. All they had to do was show they were low to qualify and gee what do you know , all you have to do is come off cycle for 6 weeks and your gonna be suppressed. Thus qualifying for HRT.