Ipamorelin Dosages

[RottenWillow]

im not really looking to build muscle on it. but id be aiming at muscle retention and fat loss. maybe 100mcg post workout and 100mcg before bed?

That would be effective. You're just looking to enhance the naturally occurring pulses anyway, and those are two most significant pulse you just identified.


The PWO order of operations should be your GHRH (or GHRH/GHRP cocktail), and then wait at least 15 minutes before consuming your PWO drink. If the drink is pure protein you don't have to wait. If it's got carbs to boost PWO insulin you have to wait so the digestion doesn't blunt the GH wave.

 

[twenty47]

im just really new to this and gh in general. im not trying to be a noob and ask stupid questions like "how many lbs am i gonna lose if i do HGH BRAH"

but im just looking for someone with experience to kinda outline what kind of results they saw with something like this. will i see body composition changes after a month? 2 months? 3? ect. how will it make me feel? is it one of those things you dont really notice until you stop it and say to yourself " hey i just realized i felt great on that stuff" or am i gonna know for sure.

when people say things like "its comparable to x amount iu's of growth" it means nothing to me bc ive never used growth. and i wasnt really sold on the idea of running 2iu's a day anyway. peoples opinions on it vary pretty greatly. Im not looking for a magic pill. i know nothing is going to take me from my current bf to 10% without other changes. I just dont wanna spend the money on almost 100 pins a month and the money for the ipam to see very small results that could be blown away by just running some eca and epistrong or something. ya feel me? lol

 

[BLM Shot]

The aim would be to amplify the size of the GH pulse. But Mod GRF (1-29) creates a naturalistic pulse, so it's preferable, rather than a nearly constant elevated baseline (not good).

Ipamorelin on it's own would be more than sufficient for anti-aging purposes. To use GHRH/GHRP's as an adjunct to androgenics for purposes of muscle building you would need to amplify the pulse size.

So the combo of the 2 would generate an all day release (kind of like a time release med) via the CJC 1295 "bleed" and a big bump/pulse with the Ipam?

 

[Liquid 2009]

No. You want pulses not bleed

 

[RottenWillow]

So the combo of the 2 would generate an all day release (kind of like a time release med) via the CJC 1295 "bleed" and a big bump/pulse with the Ipam?

I'm afraid people quoted Dat's use of the convention "bleed" and now there are a lot of people around who don't know what that means. I'll try to explain.

The somatotrophs in the pituitary can only release so much GH within a given time slice. The peptide CJC with the addition of DAC has such a long half life that it "drains" the somatotrophs of GH and you end up with a trickle of GH. That trickle establishes sort of a higher baseline of GH, which is actually not a good thing for the pituitary, rather than periods of big pulses like a teenager would naturally experience.

Modified GRF (1-29) (which is probably what you are often getting anyway with you order chinese CJC w/ DAC)has a much shorter half-life and amplifies the wave induced by hormones like Ipamorelin over a much shorter period of time. This allows the somatotrophs to release considerably larger amounts of GH in a naturalistic wave pattern, as opposed to an artificially raised baseline from the "bleed" we hear about.

 

[BLM Shot]

OK, good info guys- thanks.

In another thread I had someone tell me they were doing CJC-1295 two times a week at 200mcg's each shot and Ipamorelin at 100mcg a day with that for anti-aging and getting good results.

I am looking for a little more than anti-aging. I want recovery from heavy endurance (long distance runs and bikes) and some fat loss. Any suggestions on a protocol for this?

Thanks

 

[dakota33]

I'm afraid people quoted Dat's use of the convention "bleed" and now there are a lot of people around who don't know what that means. I'll try to explain.

The somatotrophs in the pituitary can only release so much GH within a given time slice. The peptide CJC with the addition of DAC has such a long half life that it "drains" the somatotrophs of GH and you end up with a trickle of GH. That trickle establishes sort of a higher baseline of GH, which is actually not a good thing for the pituitary, rather than periods of big pulses like a teenager would naturally experience.

Modified GRF (1-29) (which is probably what you are often getting anyway with you order chinese CJC w/ DAC)has a much shorter half-life and amplifies the wave induced by hormones like Ipamorelin over a much shorter period of time. This allows the somatotrophs to release considerably larger amounts of GH in a naturalistic wave pattern, as opposed to an artificially raised baseline from the "bleed" we hear about.

Good stuff RottenWillow.....One thing that has confused me during my investigation into an Ipa\Mod GRF(1-29) run is how much and when to use the Mod GRF. I plan on 100mcg of Ipa in the am and then before bed(cannot pin 3x\day). Should the Mod GRF be used in parallel, or can it be injected twice a week at larger doses, lets say 500mcg 2x a week at 3 day intervals. Which would be more benficial? Just like Twenty47, I'm looking for mainly weight loss.

 

[RottenWillow]

Good stuff RottenWillow.....One thing that has confused me during my investigation into an Ipa\Mod GRF(1-29) run is how much and when to use the Mod GRF. I plan on 100mcg of Ipa in the am and then before bed(cannot pin 3x\day). Should the Mod GRF be used in parallel, or can it be injected twice a week at larger doses, lets say 500mcg 2x a week at 3 day intervals. Which would be more benficial? Just like Twenty47, I'm looking for mainly weight loss.

No you want to always shoot it at the same time as the Ipamorelin so that it is there to amplify the GH wave. It has a very short life remember. Infrequent, large doses would not be appropriate with Mod GRF (1-29).

You can draw the Mod GRF into the pin first, then the Ipamorelin, then shoot them both simultaneously. 100mcg of each, PWO and bedtime would certainly be enough for anti-aging, and enough to aid recovery and fat loss to an extent too. PWO shot must follow fat/carb consumption by at least 15 minutes.

 

[twenty47]

So you would wanna do 100mcg of ipam and 100mcg of cjc each time u inject be it 1-3 times a day.


But u still could just use ipam by itself correct? If on a budget

 

[Liquid 2009]

Yes, exactly.