Seriously though, I have been on IGF-1 and 60mg Var per day for 2.5 weeks now and i can really feel a fullness to my muscles and frame that im not used to, its like i feel thicker and more solid without any water bloat, and i havent pushed the strength envelope yet, but I can say that the poundages that Im used to pushing are getting easier and more focused, im planning on running both for 6 weeks total, and i will keep posting results.........