in the middle of first test cycle..

[tylermoore]

Bro i'm a natty at the moment and i can see my body changing in size every 3 weeks while on a bulk, even 2 weeks of bulking if i took a picture without a shirt there would be a visable increase in mass, maybe it's just my genetics but fix your diet/training routine.

 

[Silvercrank]

You're working out for 3 hours at a time? That's way to much.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

This thread is a mess... lol, your diet is not on point if you are getting gyno and elevated estrogen with no gains... diet dictates whether or not you blow up 40lbs on do our gain 10 lean lbs... I always eat clean calories, therefore to minimize bloat and I find that when I get off, I don't lose much...

 

[Liquid 2009]

What does your training routine look like? Why are you working out for 3 hours? The only time I would spend 3 hours in a gym is if I worked there lol

That may be your problem among the others guys mentioned.

Your diet seems fine in terms of numbers.

 

[rifle mike]

Yeah guys reporting back now that week 6 is finishing.
Weight has gone up 4.5kg now strength went up the roof (from benching 120kg twice to 130kg twice) and in the beginning of week six I just woke up looked at the mirror and BOOM, perhaps it was mental thinking I'm not progressing, though I didn't say there was no gains, if you look at the op I already had gained 1,5kg. But just didn't notice it in the mirror. Talked to a few guys who used susta and researched threads and alot of people have reported back that they didn't notice gains till week 7. So everything is cool gyno is out the window the nolva killed it, now continuing with adex. And diet has been clean and strict as f**k. Oats, rice, meat, tuna, chicken, eggs, cottage cheese and vegetables haven't had anything else for 6 weeks.

 

[johnnyboy3689282]

I agree with liquid too mike.... you may be in the gym too long.... too much will kill gains as well... unless.... you are that guy that talks to everyone, like my best friend.... 1.5 takes 3.5 cause we have to talk to everyone in the gym.... lol

 

[rifle mike]

I agree with liquid too mike.... you may be in the gym too long.... too much will kill gains as well... unless.... you are that guy that talks to everyone, like my best friend.... 1.5 takes 3.5 cause we have to talk to everyone in the gym.... lol

Well some talking of course happens but I train every muscle twice a week, so two muscles a day (every muscle with 6 different moves or exercises or whatever they're called in Eng ) 6days aweek. I have been training like this for 2 years, with the right diet and good amount of sleep I've had great gains.