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I'm Really Conflicted Here (Probably Offensive Thread ...)

I'm pro-choice, but once that baby pops out alive, you no longer have the right to kill it, IMO.

This woman is a waste of fucking space. These are the type of people that need to be listed in Musclemom threads.

agreed. I am going to list Lindsey Lowe in MM's who would you kill thread.
 
I'll go pro-life here, not conflicted and hope she rots in prison

or they just dump her in a garbage can, either way works for me.
 
I still want to know how MM is conflicted
I can't decide if she's a waste of air and space that is doubly damned for murder of two innocents ...

OR ...

If she just committed abortion six months late.

Now hold on with the visceral responses for a minute. These are not cute little plump bundles of love as perfectly photographed by Anne Geddes. These are fresh out of the wrapper human newborns that honestly are one step above any baby bird. Red, squawking, sticky, absolutely helpless to the point of not even being able to find sustenance, not even possessing the instinct to crawl to a tit.

Now be honest here, if you had a choice of being murdered, and could pick ANY time in your life (except the last decade) when would you choose to die? I don't know about the rest of you, but I honestly have no memory of anything before age 2. Is dying before you lived such a horrible proposition (and dying during/at/immediately after birth is pretty much dying before you lived).

Is dying before you lived a dramatically worse proposition than dying after you've lived, and/or living with the knowledge that some day you will die?

On another hand, if you agree with abortion, is murder AT birth, at the hand of your mother, that much more different from abortion? (personally, I believe it is, but not substantially. I've attended a whole lot of births of many species of critters in my time. Dying then is about as easy as it gets).

Didn't say it was a pleasant thread. At least give me credit for truth in advertising.

Oh, and why would I even think of asking such a question? Because matricide at birth was a relatively common practice once upon a time in not so distant (historically speaking) human history and would not have been an act looked upon scornfully.
 
I can't decide if she's a waste of air and space that is doubly damned for murder of two innocents ...

OR ...

If she just committed abortion six months late.

Now hold on with the visceral responses for a minute. These are not cute little plump bundles of love as perfectly photographed by Anne Geddes. These are fresh out of the wrapper human newborns that honestly are one step above any baby bird. Red, squawking, sticky, absolutely helpless to the point of not even being able to find sustenance, not even possessing the instinct to crawl to a tit.

Now be honest here, if you had a choice of being murdered, and could pick ANY time in your life (except the last decade) when would you choose to die? I don't know about the rest of you, but I honestly have no memory of anything before age 2. Is dying before you lived such a horrible proposition (and dying during/at/immediately after birth is pretty much dying before you lived).

Is dying before you lived a dramatically worse proposition than dying after you've lived, and/or living with the knowledge that some day you will die?

On another hand, if you agree with abortion, is murder AT birth, at the hand of your mother, that much more different from abortion? (personally, I believe it is, but not substantially. I've attended a whole lot of births of many species of critters in my time. Dying then is about as easy as it gets).

Didn't say it was a pleasant thread. At least give me credit for truth in advertising.

Oh, and why would I even think of asking such a question? Because matricide at birth was a relatively common practice once upon a time in not so distant (historically speaking) human history and would not have been an act looked upon scornfully.

You shouldnt have to chose when to die, or if it was ok for the kids to be killed and not now or later, they shouldnt have died at all.
 
You shouldnt have to chose when to die, or if it was ok for the kids to be killed and not now or later, they shouldnt have died at all.
Okay, that makes no sense. And really, you disappoint me, Nan, you're supposed to be the logical atheist neurologist.

Death is inevitable, life isn't.

BTW, Peter is closest so far :D Turning of the seasons from the first to second harvest, soon to enter the time of the Cailleach. We're coming into the time of balance before the land slips into darkness. All I can think about when I go outside is the coming silence as everything goes to rest.

Which, of course, doesn't apply to anyone south of the equator *sigh*
 
Youre certainly having trouble with this whole "murder" topic as of late. This shouldnt even be a discussion. She can give them up for adoption, give them away to whomever, hell she can even dump them on a firestation doormat free and clear.
 
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