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STEPHANIEANDJ
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Being that I am new here, I am a little confused. Why are you all wanting to know what Jersey Art has to say? What makes him so special? No offense Jersey Art, i am just confused as to why people are so interested in you, and why your head is so big you started a thread on yourself? Please do not take offense. This is just my question...
Stephanie
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Ulcasterdropout
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how much do you bench?
the nature boy
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how did this thread get to 3 pages?
JerseyArt said:
Changes? Jesus came to change the law (the "old" covenant)? Funny, in the bible, Jesus said,
"Think not that I am come to destroy [read: change] the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." [Matt. 5:17-18]
Perhaps you chose your words poorly? Perhaps you intended to say something else?
JerseyArt said:SSS
Everyone is hazy on the nature of the Trinity. It's a mystery
Perhaps that is because the Trinity is a man made doctrine not found in the works of the bible. A 3 "person" God? Let's see what the bible itself says about this...
Moses said (addressing the people of Israel), "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" [Deut. 6:4]
Jesus later quoted Moses while addressing scribes and Sadducees in front of his followers and said (in response to the question "which is the first commandment of all?"), "The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:" [Mark 12:29]
Tertullian, a lawyer and church historian, was the first to use the word "trinity" sometime in the third century.
Controversy arose over this matter of the trinity in 318 a.d. between Arius, a decon, and Alexander a bishop. Emporer Constantine then stepped in. Constantine was a pagan high priest and a sun worshipper (mithraism), who supposedly converted to Christianity.
Constantine knew nothing about the Christian dogma, but he recognized that a unified religion was necessary for a strong kingdom. Constantine called for a "council of bishops" to settle the matter. 300 bishops gathered to form the Nicean Council in 325 a.d., and the doctrine of the "Trinity" was born. Interesting as Constantine's Mithraism (pagan sun worship religion) already had it's own "trinity" - a Father god, Mother god, and a Son god. Let's just say there was some severe pressure on these 300 bishops to hammer out a similar doctrine and try to justify it within the realms of Christianity.
The God of the followers of Christ was now seen as having 3 "persons" or "essences".
Of course this was blasphemous to the Christians at the time and Arius and the new bishop of Alexandria, Athanasius, disagreed on the matter even as the Nicean Creed was being signed. "Arianism" became the term for those Christians who didn't hold to the doctrine of the trinity.
It is said that Athanasius, confessed that the more he wrote on the matter of the trinity, the less capable he was of clearly expressing his thoughts regarding it.
It wasn't until 451 a.d. at the Council of Chalcedon that, with the approval of the pope, the Nicean Creed was set as authoritative. No more debate on the matter was tolerated. To speak out against the Trinity now was considered blasphemy, and would be met with penalties from mutilation to death. Christians turned on Christians, killing thousands because of a difference of opinion.
Even today the controversy continues. When Christians are asked to explain this "trinity" their offerings are weak and they often explain it away as a "mystery", but the bible says that, "...God is not the author of confusion, but of peace..."
It appears as though this "trinity" matter has caused much confusion, and not a lot of peace.
