I'm feeling generous. What would you like to know

[Tryn2]

Good Thread

 

[Kroliczek]

Do you live in Jersey? If so, which city?


Why aren't you answering all of the questions?

 

[jerseyart]

Perhaps that is because the Trinity is a man made doctrine not found in the works of the bible. A 3 "person" God? Let's see what the bible itself says about this...
Moses said (addressing the people of Israel), "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:" [Deut. 6:4]

Jesus later quoted Moses while addressing scribes and Sadducees in front of his followers and said (in response to the question "which is the first commandment of all?"), "The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:" [Mark 12:29]

Tertullian, a lawyer and church historian, was the first to use the word "trinity" sometime in the third century.
Controversy arose over this matter of the trinity in 318 a.d. between Arius, a decon, and Alexander a bishop. Emporer Constantine then stepped in. Constantine was a pagan high priest and a sun worshipper (mithraism), who supposedly converted to Christianity.
Constantine knew nothing about the Christian dogma, but he recognized that a unified religion was necessary for a strong kingdom. Constantine called for a "council of bishops" to settle the matter. 300 bishops gathered to form the Nicean Council in 325 a.d., and the doctrine of the "Trinity" was born. Interesting as Constantine's Mithraism (pagan sun worship religion) already had it's own "trinity" - a Father god, Mother god, and a Son god. Let's just say there was some severe pressure on these 300 bishops to hammer out a similar doctrine and try to justify it within the realms of Christianity.
The God of the followers of Christ was now seen as having 3 "persons" or "essences".
Of course this was blasphemous to the Christians at the time and Arius and the new bishop of Alexandria, Athanasius, disagreed on the matter even as the Nicean Creed was being signed. "Arianism" became the term for those Christians who didn't hold to the doctrine of the trinity.
It is said that Athanasius, confessed that the more he wrote on the matter of the trinity, the less capable he was of clearly expressing his thoughts regarding it.
It wasn't until 451 a.d. at the Council of Chalcedon that, with the approval of the pope, the Nicean Creed was set as authoritative. No more debate on the matter was tolerated. To speak out against the Trinity now was considered blasphemy, and would be met with penalties from mutilation to death. Christians turned on Christians, killing thousands because of a difference of opinion.
Even today the controversy continues. When Christians are asked to explain this "trinity" their offerings are weak and they often explain it away as a "mystery", but the bible says that, "...God is not the author of confusion, but of peace..."
It appears as though this "trinity" matter has caused much confusion, and not a lot of peace.

LOL

In addition to having to do with any of the actual discussions on this thread (we werent debating the nature of the trinity, but of justification for monogamy) your rant is also factually and historically inaccurate.

The concept of the Trinity existed from the foundation of Christinaity. Far before the Nicean Council was assembled, the early Church had dealt with and attempted to lay to rest various heresies regarding the faith. Among them were Sabellianism and Modalism. In short they were a denial of the Trinity.

The Christian doctrine of the Trinity does not contradict the Judeo belief in one God. There is only one God, but comprised of three distinct beings. Hence the mystery.

To accept your puerile and obviously agenda driven rant would be to make a mockery of the numerous passages in the Bible where Christ being with another, being sent from another, or speaking to another, whether it be Father or Holy Spirit.

So Bueller the answer is that while Christ Himself never uses the word Trinity, it is He himself who outlined the model and our understanding of the nature of God

 

[jerseyart]

What is the big island in the U.S. Some dumb fuck said Puerto Tico. Not even in the U.S.

I object to your myopic definition of what constitutes the "US."

For most of its history the US was defined by a belief in manifest destiny. Now some with smaller visions would claim that the goal was achieved with the incorporation of California into the Union. Yet since then we have added bot Alaska and the Hawain islands. Clearly this unique vision for our country was never intended to stop at the Pacifics edge.

So to answer your question the largest island in the US is Australia, we just havent claimed it yet. Now I know some will try to claim its a continent, but I have a globe in front of me, and clearly its nothing more than a pretentious island. And since it is completely unpopulated with intelligent life, it is just a matter of time before we lay claim to her.

 

[jerseyart]

Do you live in Jersey? If so, which city?


Why aren't you answering all of the questions?

Till two days ago I did. Soon I shall once more

Because I'm a capricious deity. All questions will be answered in time

 

[Kroliczek]

Till two days ago I did. Soon I shall once more

Because I'm a capricious deity. All questions will be answered in time

lol. you certainly are capricious.

yoda.

 

[jerseyart]

How do you have your house paid for,
Car paid for,
No c.c. bills,
Don't make a lot of money
No debt at age 35?

Simple, marry me

 

[jerseyart]

Being that I am new here, I am a little confused. Why are you all wanting to know what Jersey Art has to say? What makes him so special? No offense Jersey Art, i am just confused as to why people are so interested in you, and why your head is so big you started a thread on yourself? Please do not take offense. This is just my question...
Stephanie

The answer is superior genetics, an incredibly well trained mind, and as you noted an incredibly big head (my how you girls do talk. Never kiss and tell, thats my motto).

Also, I didnt pick on everyone who posted in Lestat's thread, so not everyone here has an agenda.

 

[ChefWide]

Till two days ago I did. Soon I shall once more

Because I'm a capricious deity. All questions will be answered in time

Just to take some of the burden off of Jersey in the flurry of probing: he mentioned in a thread past that he is taking up a temporary residence in The Big Ashtray whilest his Dream Home is being built on a lovely parcel of land in the Garden State.... oh... and DO go for the height you had mentioned and add a sitting room with 360 views and a terrace for outdoor entertaining.

 

[jerseyart]

If i join this Ramones tribute i've been asked to -- will i reach my goal of total happiness, harmony and peace in life?

After careful consideration I conclude the following.

The Ramones were cursed, therefore any tribute band to the group would also be cursed. The fact that tribute bands unerringly end up going no where is a second curse, which makes this decision particularly dangerous.

I predict you will end up playing on a boardwalk somewhere in California for spare change, unknown and unadmired, before dying of a drug overdose in the back alley behind some Chinese laundry.

The better choice would be to conclude the man always wins, cut your hair, get a job, and support 2 wives and 2,5 kids like the rest of the men in this country