I actually have some respect for you for this, mainly for sticking to your guns.
My question is, what's different about joosing? Sin is sin, right?
Everyone sins, sure.
We all rationalize why we do things we know we shouldn't.
All sin is not equal.
Obviously, killing someone is more serious than stealing a pack of gum.
It's easy to make restitution for theft. You give it back or pay for it.
You can't bring somebody back from the dead.
Anyways, in the LDS temple, I made a vow to God specifically to keep the law of chastity, which means no sex outside of marriage. I promised to do it, so I'm keeping that promise.
My understanding of the Bible's take on sin, outside of blasphemy, is that all sin is as bad as the next.
Not being a hater, and obviously I'm a sinner (and jo0ser) I just never got around to asking what your opinion was.
You're goddamn right.
I live in UT and I've met gay Mormons that live very moral lives but will flip out if you use the jeebusgod's name in vain. That, over use of hairspray, and bad tipping seem to be key parts of mormon culture.
In East Texas, they're all attorneys and have HUGE families of insanely talented kids who can all sing, dance, play multiple instruments, make 4.0's and excel in multiple.sports.
It's fkn annoying as all hell....

Everyone sins, sure.
We all rationalize why we do things we know we shouldn't.
All sin is not equal.
Obviously, killing someone is more serious than stealing a pack of gum.
It's easy to make restitution for theft. You give it back or pay for it.
You can't bring somebody back from the dead.
Anyways, in the LDS temple, I made a vow to God specifically to keep the law of chastity, which means no sex outside of marriage. I promised to do it, so I'm keeping that promise.
while i respect convictions, there is something inherently creepy to me about virgins in their late 20s.
and joose possession is a felony in all 50 states, i'd wager a guess that in LDS eyes there is no difference between
joose usage and other hard drugs such as crack, heroin and meth...and felonious behaviour would not be okay or accepted.
seems hypocritical to me
while i respect convictions, there is something inherently creepy to me about virgins in their late 20s.
and joose possession is a felony in all 50 states, i'd wager a guess that in LDS eyes there is no difference between
joose usage and other hard drugs such as crack, heroin and meth...and felonious behaviour would not be okay or accepted.
seems hypocritical to me
Hes a buffet mormon
I actually have some respect for you for this, mainly for sticking to your guns.
My question is, what's different about joosing? Sin is sin, right?
Why is joosing a sin?
Why is joosing a sin?
Holy fucking shit god says all sins are equal in his eyes. Please never preach again

most religions support adiding by the law and oppose mind altering over indulgence.
if caffeine and booze are not permitted by mormons do you think joose is gonna be?
Any sin makes you fall short of the glory of God and requires the atonement and sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
In this sense, all sin is equal in the eyes of God because God "cannot look upon sin with the least degree of allowance."
However, that doesn't mean that the littlest of sin such as occasional cussing is as severe as murder or denying the Holy Spirit. That's just logical.
"I the Lord will forgive whom I will forgive..."
You think that Christ will plead at the judgment seat of God on our behalf if we are murderers the same as if we had occasional potty mouth?
Not everything is so black and white.
Caffeine is not prohibited and it never has been.
Specifically coffee, tea and alcoholic beverages.
warren is a mormon? did not know that, harry reid is mormon too.
adam sandler needs to do a mormon song like the jew song he did back in his snl days.
i have no problem with those that practice faith, but those who preach a pure game but make excuses for certain vices/behaviour with some mental trickery/justification deserve some scorn.
Buffet, like go pick and choose what you eat at a buffet lol
Buffet, not Buffett
No vagina for me until I get married.
Discuss.
huh, so warren buffet is a mormon?
fuck if i know rob
All I was saying is some people pick and choose what parts of their religion they want to follow, like going to eat at a buffet.
so i'm assuming steroids would fall into the prohibited category as well...
i was fucking off lil red riding ROB
Obviously, recreational drug use is frowned upon.
I get where you're coming from. Have I done things I know I shouldn't have?
Yes.
Has everyone?
Yes.
The point of life is progression. Both in knowledge and education as well as self-mastery and spiritual maturity. God's commandments point us in all the right directions.
Just because you sin differently than I do doesn't make either of us better than another.
The goal is to bring ourselves inline and one with the Lord and his spirit. "Become one as the Father and I are one.
Having sinned a particular way does not justify sinning another way because "sin is sin".
Move forward. Avoid those things with which we are tempted and don't allow ourselves to turn other things into temptation and fall backwards.
Being hypocritical means to chastise and judge others with the same things you are guilty of. I don't chastise nor do judge others for anything the best I can.
My older sister was conceived outside of marriage, my cousin I mentioned in V's thread fornicated. I joosed.
I don't point fingers.
i cannot sin cause i'm more or less atheist and don't abide by your rules.
Now, for the sake of arguement, and nothing personal...sinning is forgiveable, if their is an effort to correct mistakes...repentance imo is not something that allows for a continuation of sin...continuation of bad behaviour (joosing), whilst knowing it is sinful, and doing nothing to correct it nor stop it, is living daily in sin
i cannot sin cause i'm more or less atheist and don't abide by your rules.
now, for the sake of arguement, and nothing personal...sinning is forgiveable, if their is an effort to correct mistakes...repentance imo is not something that allows for a continuation of sin...continuation of bad behaviour (joosing), whilst knowing it is sinful, and doing nothing to correct it nor stop it, is living daily in sin
I totally agree with you. You must have missed my post saying that I haven't joosed in years and no longer do.
Repentance is a lengthy process in the LDS church. Recognition ands orrow for your mistakes, confession to proper authority, discontinuation of sin and a change of heart turning away from that sin completely without repeat.
I swear I'm not being a dick. Or a wise ass bro. I'm being sincere......
You really really reeeeeeeeally believe all this "stuff" your talking about"? Really really?
Yes, I do.
If I didn't really, I'd have no problem saying "eff it" and bail.
"Jesus answered, Thou couldest have no power at all against me, except it were given thee from above: therefore he that delivered me unto thee hath the greater sin." -John 19:11
*Jesus speaking to pilot after the Judas betrayed him. The "he" is referring to judas.
judas commited the "greater sin". Greater than what?...obviously pilot's lesser sin.
All sins are NOT equal.
Conviction is what tells us we have sinned. Go steal a candy bar, then kill an innocent person and come back and tell me which you are more convicted about...
What about killing a scum bag meth dealer?
I totally agree with you. You must have missed my post saying that I haven't joosed in years and no longer do.
Repentance is a lengthy process in the LDS church. Recognition ands orrow for your mistakes, confession to proper authority, discontinuation of sin and a change of heart turning away from that sin completely without repeat.

The value of a person's life is not for you or I to judge. God gives and takes life,,, not us
The value of a person's life is not for you or I to judge. God gives and takes life,,, not us
Nah, he doesn't like fitguy308. I asked him.
I'm a 17 year old Christian, and I'm not a virgin. Does that mean I'm going to hell? I don't think so. I just don't understand what makes sex so inherently evil. I know what the bible says, but WHY?
I'm thinking maybe based on the consequences such as life creation/babies, diseases, love, jealousy, bonds that form with attachment, lusting or screwing after people who are takenI'm a 17 year old Christian, and I'm not a virgin. Does that mean I'm going to hell? I don't think so. I just don't understand what makes sex so inherently evil. I know what the bible says, but WHY?
I'm a 17 year old Christian, and I'm not a virgin. Does that mean I'm going to hell? I don't think so. I just don't understand what makes sex so inherently evil. I know what the bible says, but WHY?
because it's a felony. Not exactly obeying the law of the land to comit a felony
No vagina for me until I get married.
Discuss.
What u going to do if u get used vagina and everything your doing with her she has done before . Maybe even more.. Jealousy and resentment always gets the best of me
99% of sin is forgivable, the onli non forgivable sin is blaspheming of the holy spirit. I.e not accepting christ of saviour
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So you are looking for a virgin. Good luck with that.
So if I move to Mexico and joose I am not sining? What if i joosed in Mexico but i went back to US but I still have the joose circulating through my system cuz I used a long acting ester? Am I still sining
if you move to a island with no formal government is it okay for you to murder and steal?
if you lived in nazi germany would it have been okay to assault and rob jews knowing that the gov wouldn't prosecute you?
is it okay to be a drunk and over eater even though they are perfectly legal?
etc
Never confuse whats legal and illegal with whats right or wrong
This is where I have issues with religion. So what does this mean exactly. My
Granddad who was a baptist preacher would say that "bastards" can't enter the kingdom of heaven.
To me that's a load of crap. Why should the son be condemned for the sins of the father?
Juicing in mexico is fine. You have to obey the laws of the bible and the laws of your land. So to the stuff you posted above its all not okay.
ask your pastor/priest about this and see what he/she says.
induglence in mind altering/body altering substances is not gonna be embraced
ask your pastor/priest about this and see what he/she says.
induglence in mind altering/body altering substances is not gonna be embraced
So you have cancer and you go through chemo treatment . Basically almost killing the host going through treatment . Are u sining?
So you have cancer and you go through chemo treatment . Basically almost killing the host going through treatment . Are u sining?
The bible says to treat your body as a temple and is against pride/vanity. joosing isn't healthy and in most cases is being done for vanity, or a competitive edge which would be cheating, also a sin. Steroids anywhere is a sin, not just where it's illegal.
1 Corinthians 6 NIV - Lawsuits Among Believers - If any of - Bible Gateway
Read the whole thing. You cant take one verse out of context.. Its talking about sleeping around with prostitutes. Not putting unhealthy food/drugs into your body. And there are lots of untested competitions where steroids are not cheating.
Organized religion is such a fucking joke
Is working out to look good a sin?
A lot of fastfood does make my booty larger. Is knowing altering my temple with chemically enhanced food a sin?
Did you start this thread just so you can jump up on your soap box?
Christians do love to talk down to ppl.
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1 Timothy 4:8-9
For while bodily training is of some value, godliness is of value in every way, as it holds promise for the present life and also for the life to come.
I don't get it. Does working out give godliness value?
Apollo 13:0
Thou shalt not retire more men than social security
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