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Illuminati's Training Log

24Feb05

CG Bench
135x10
185x10
225x10

CG 3 Board Press
w/Minis
225x3
w/Lights
225x3
w/Lights & Mini's
225x3,3
w/Lights
275x3,3
No Bands
275x5
315x5
345x3
*all bench work done today was close grip 3 board press

Seated Military Press
135x10
155x10
185x8

V-Bar Pull Downs
140x15
180x12
210x8

Hammer Curls
40x10
50x10,10

Didin't feel the need to do extra Tri work today because I fried them with the Close Grip 3Board Press.
 
I'd say, that's a hell of a load on your tri's. Does this help your bench work capacity a lot?

How do you work this in with your bench routine, I'm obviously too lazy to go through your past logs. Would this be a ME, probably not a DE, accessory day?

Are you a bench guy or a three lift guy?
 
Chambewy20 said:
I'd say, that's a hell of a load on your tri's. Does this help your bench work capacity a lot?

How do you work this in with your bench routine, I'm obviously too lazy to go through your past logs. Would this be a ME, probably not a DE, accessory day?

Are you a bench guy or a three lift guy?


Chambewy20,
I have been following a strict WSB routine for a while. I haven't really seen much benefit from the DE days, and the speed benching or the speed squats. I do, however, find a lot of benefit from using the bands. I have a friend that had been doing a WSB for a few years, and he started to feel the same way. So what he did, was to change up the DE days, to be a heavy band tension day. He told me that this really worked well for him. So I am trying it out to see how it goes.
Right now, I haven't competed. I just got into PLing about 6 months ago. I am in the military, currently stationed on Diego Garcia, which is in the middle of the Indian Ocean. I will be here for a year, and I dont have a chance to compete out here. I want to, and will be, a three lift guy. I find lots of joy in lifting heavy, and going for a max on all three lifts. I would have to say that the bench is my best lift right now. Not numbers wise, but more in the effect that I have found what is working for me, and I am going to run with it.
Ill post up my routine, and show you how I have put everything together, so that you can all see what I am going to be doing.
 
My Routine:

Sunday
Shirted Bench Day. This is a max effort day. I will be working to find a failure point on either a 1,2,3,4 boards, or a full range bench. If the energy is there, and I am doing a full range bench, I will do some board work at the point where I failed. Also, if the energy is there, and I am doing boards, I might take another board, and do work on that. As you all know, this day is all by feel. From here, I will do my tri, lat, and ab work.

Tuesday
Max Effort squat/deadlift day. Like WSB, I will alternate a special exercise every other week. Since I dont compete, yet, I plan on finding a max every 8 weeks. After the ME movement, Ill hit up my hams, lower back, and abs.

Wednesday
Lower back, traps, and plyometrics. The back work on this day is light. Plyometric work for about 30mins, various types of box jumps.

Thursday
Close Grip Bench day, no shirt. On this day, I plan using a lot of band tension, and working on my board presses, working to a heavy triple. In general, I will be using a lower board (2 or 3 boards.) I am usually pretty amped when I get done using the bands, and want to keep going, so Ill take the bands off, and work up to a heavy triple with out the bands. If my tri's are shot after the bench work, I wont do any tri's, if they are not shot, then Ill do them. I will follow this up with shoulders, lats, and ab work.

Saturday
Box squats with heavy band tension, working up to a heavy single. Followed up by speed deads, biceps and ab work. With the deads; If I did some sort of pulling earlier in the week on the ME day, I will not go over 70% of my max. But, if I didn't do a pulling movement on the ME day, then I will end up going heavy.


If you look at my log, you might notice that I really haven't been doing too much tri work lately in the form of extensions. This is because I get an unbearable pain in my elbows when I do those sort of movements, so I am not doing them.
The reason why I dont do a DE day any more is because I don't fully understand how they are helping me. Yes, I understand that the idea is to explode (off the chest, or the box) as hard as you can, but this can also be done by using heavy band tension. By using the heavy band tension with a lighter bar weight, I am still working on making my start of the lift to lockout faster, because as everybody who uses bands knows, if you are not fast, you will not outrun the bands, and you will not be able to lockout the weight. I am also accomodating resistance, by having heavy band tension.
 
looks like a good plan..im not an expert but i really wouldnt do 4 boards with the shirt..i would save that for raw work..i would concentrate more on the 2 brd with the shirt..

i would do your lower brds with the shirt and on thurs do your CG and work mid/upper boards raw..

also if your hitting te boards hard like you plan to do (im assuming you do them with a CG?) i wouldnt worry too much about addtional tricep exercises..if you feel good that day do them if your shot then skip em..we're not in the size game but my tris have gotten bigger pretty much from the brd presses..so theyll get hit hard dont worry :)
 
What I have found in regards to benefit or speed bench, squats and deads is not only an increase in speed and explosive strength, but this is the day I develop my stamina.

Through the winter, my partner and I have not been able to drag the sled, we are probably gonna get some kettle balls soon, I'm trying them out at Westside tomorrow and I'll let you know what I think of them. Regardless, through doing the speed movements, primarily in the squat and dead, my work capacity has sky rocketed. I started off doing the whole 50-60% stuff, but I was soon able to knock out 9 sets of doubles every 45 seconds with 330 straight weight without cracking a sweat.

Gradually we through out percentages and went with actual speed to dictate the weight. Next thing you know, with bands, I'm hitting 9 sets of doubles with 505 on top and 435 on bottom. We began this by doing 3 sets of doubles, going up 20 lbs, three more sets, going up twenty, and three more sets.

I didn't think I was correct with the approximate weights until we were doing box squats on ME day with straight weight, then I put on 495 and hit it for a double at the speed you would do a speed squat.

Overall, the help me trememdously with work capacity or stamina, form, and explosive strength. There are lots of variations but the will get your ass into shape right now.

Just my opinion.
 
26Feb05

Squats w/ bands

bar
+lights x3
+averages x3
+lights & averages x3,3
135x3
185x3
225x3
275x3
+averages (took the lights off here)
275x3
295x3
315x3

GM's
135x10
185x10

that was it. too burnt out from a lack of sleep over the past few days. its a bad sign when you take a bunch of ephedrine and feel like you are running on empty. couldn't concentrate, and wasn't into it. so i called it quits on the day. as a matter of fact, i have decided to take tomorrow's shirted bench day off. i seriously need to catch up on sleep, otherwise i am gonna just quit lifting, and take up yoga!
 
8Mar05
ME Squat/Dead

Seated GM's
135x5
185x5
225x3
275x3
315x3
345x1
365x1
375x1
390x1

SLDL
225x10
275x10
315x10

Hammer Curls
50x10
55x10
60x10

Looks like i really needed that week off. i felt so much better today going back to the gym. the time off and the rest really did me a lot of good. i was getting worn out from the gym, and stressed out for other reasons. im glad that i took some time to rest, and clear my head...
 
10Mar05

Inc. Bench
135x10
185x10
225x10

Flat Bench
135x10
225x10
275x5

3 Board Press
275x3
315x3
365x3
405x3,3
435x1

Push Press
135x10
185x5
225x5

Elbows out Ext.
50x10,10
60x8
 
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