IGF-1 Cycle

[Elvia1023]

I've always gone by the standard "no carbs at night", and then slow digesting casein before bed. I typically eat my 2 largest meals pre and post workout, and those are in the mid afternoon. Maybe I will start adding some oat or sweet potatoe powder and mac oil to my pre bed shake and see what it can do for me.

Do you follow the 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off rule with IGF-1? Or do you think it can be ran longer?

If I run the IGF-1 pre-workout, should I add MGF to the protocol as soon as I get done lifting?

It won't really matter if you use LR3 as it is active for a long time. I would run them eod and rotate so LR3, PEG MGF, LR3, PEG MGF etc. I think 4 weeks in a nice amount of time but I don't have a limit but that sounds about right.

Timing off macros is very important but all that don't eat carbs at night or you will get fat is nonsense. Although I do think protein and fat pre bed is best. But if I were using LR3 then I would definitely add carbs. Carbs will help with sleep and keep you looking full. Mac oil would be a great addition.

 

[zyzyz]

Now that I have been reading more about the combo of IGF-1 LR3 and PEG-MGF, it is making me want to try it. How does this sound..

IGF-1 LR3 - 100mcg/day dosed first thing in the morning, followed by breakfast.

Should the protein and carbs be slow or fast digestng? So, eggs and oats or whey and dextrose? Or maybe a combination of the two? Thinking maybe a small shake with 25g whey, and 25g dextrose with BCAA's and then 20-30 minutes later have the eggs and oats..

Also, should I keep fat to a minium for this meal?

Peg-MGF - 200mcg/day dosed 1 hour after training, inbetween my post workout shake, and post workout meal. I workout usually around 2 or 3pm. Meals will consist of whey and dextrose, and then chicken, quinoa, and broc.

Sorry about the questions. Just want to make sure I do this right and get the most out of it.

 

[zyzyz]

Bump for more feedback, thanks.

 

[Elvia1023]

Now that I have been reading more about the combo of IGF-1 LR3 and PEG-MGF, it is making me want to try it. How does this sound..

IGF-1 LR3 - 100mcg/day dosed first thing in the morning, followed by breakfast.

Should the protein and carbs be slow or fast digestng? So, eggs and oats or whey and dextrose? Or maybe a combination of the two? Thinking maybe a small shake with 25g whey, and 25g dextrose with BCAA's and then 20-30 minutes later have the eggs and oats..

Also, should I keep fat to a minium for this meal?

Peg-MGF - 200mcg/day dosed 1 hour after training, inbetween my post workout shake, and post workout meal. I workout usually around 2 or 3pm. Meals will consist of whey and dextrose, and then chicken, quinoa, and broc.

Sorry about the questions. Just want to make sure I do this right and get the most out of it.

Yes PEG would be better as it is active for much longer. Look out for my log in about 1 week as I will be running that exact combo

I would have slow digesting carbs and protein throughout the day apart from during or after your workout. During breakfast you could add in some simple carbs too (I recommend it). It only has to be a small amount to go with the LR3. I would recommend something as simple as honey or coconut sugar. Either of those could be put in your oats, a protein shake or in a tea/coffee. I recommend using good quality food items over powders when you can... but I love my powders too.

Your plan looks fine but if it were me I would rotate them eod as I suggested above. If you want to run them the same day then do your plan or do PEG MGF post workout and LR3 pre bed just before your last meal (protein, complex carbs and fat).

 

[zyzyz]

Thanks for all the help.

I will be starting this Monday if everything arrives. Going to play with dosage timing to see what I like best. Going to start the IGF-1 first thing in the morning, and then Peg-MGF 1 hour after training. Hopefully will make the change to IGF-1 before bed once I get a sense of how I react.