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I was let go from work today

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So 2 days ago, I msg my manager and tell her I'm going to be an hour late because I'm feeling sick. When I get to work, HR sends me an email asking me if I'm at work. I respond with: yes, but I signed in late. They ask if I had it approved with my manager. I say I msged her this morning informed her that I'm going to be late. I receive a flagrantly rude email from HR saying that I should book it 2 days in advance instead of having people running around and try to figure out if I'm in. I reply with: Next time I predict I'm going to be sick in a few days, I'll book it in advance. I get a flaming email from my manager cc'ing everyone and their grandmothers in management and HR telling me that it's not the way they do thing and my answer is not acceptable. After a few minutes, someone from management waks up to me and says: your manager just called and says ur sick so we're sending you home. Now this company has no sick days and I drive almost 2 hours to get to work, so after I've been there for 30 minutes they're are sending me home even after I decided to get over the fact that im feeling like shit and come to work?

I feel like I'm being forced into something that is not right, so I call ontario labor board and I ask them about my right. They tell me if you are ready to work and at work, despite that you are sick, employer does not have the right to send you home. if they do, it must be a policy (and it's not) Even if you agree to go home, they have to pay you 3-4 hours depending on the kind of business for that day.

So the next day, I talk to hR and tell them about the information and that they owe me 3-4 hours of pay. One day after, my manager calsl me into the HR office and says: we've concluded that you are not fit for this position and you have not passed the probation period.

A little bit of info:

I have hit 200-300% of goal every month since i got hired
My effort numbers are first in the team and top 3 on the floor.

Does anyone else see anything wrong with this picture???
 
Me being a v.p., a message is never the right way in my opinion to call in sick. I've ripped my employees ass apart for calling in that way (text or email). However, if they show up late (they never do) and was willing to work, I'm willing to have them. It shows they try. In your case, a probationary period is a hairy thing. Pretty much they can reserve the right to let you go for whatever reason they see fit.
On the other hand u have one hell of an argument against them being that you made all of your quotas and exceeded them significantly...
The reason for being let go is "justified" on their part being that you mouthed off to a manager. They'll say "your not a team player" or some lame bullshit like that.
Not to drag my explanation on, you were discriminated against, targeted, and made an example out of (hence the public email). So lets add defamation of character to that list also. You have a right to sue them for what you did. Also, in ny, (idk where your from) if a employee travels more than one hour in distance (not including traffic) you may be entitled to travel expenses (a probationary period might void this).
Long and short of it, gather as much PHYSICAL evidence as you can get you hands on (quota reports, emails, save the text, phone records of you calling in ect) and go see a lawyer and sue the living balls off of them. You have a decent case. They want to be pricks, be a prick back. It will be cheaper for them to settle than it will be to hire lawyers to fight this...
 
Seems like you were given an opportunity to pursue better alternatives, not the kind of employer you want long term.
 
should have stayed the fuck home.

But you went in. Then you had to go and be a smartass...while you're in a probationary period.

Then you had to go back in the next day, still steaming about this bullshit, and be some kind of Canadian/Lebanese Johnny Cochran. Telling the HR person you know the law and they owe you money. Again...while you're in a probationary period.

You were a liability. They had to get rid of you. Who knows what you were going to try to do next?

Not sure how Canada is, but here you work "at will" and you ca be let go for any reason or no reason at all.

Learn from this and move on.

Next time you call in sick, be sick and stay the fuck at home.

Also, keep your fucking mouth shut, especially while you're on probation.

Love you bro.
 
should have stayed the fuck home.

But you went in. Then you had to go and be a smartass...while you're in a probationary period.

Then you had to go back in the next day, still steaming about this bullshit, and be some kind of Canadian/Lebanese Johnny Cochran. Telling the HR person you know the law and they owe you money. Again...while you're in a probationary period.

You were a liability. They had to get rid of you. Who knows what you were going to try to do next?

Not sure how Canada is, but here you work "at will" and you ca be let go for any reason or no reason at all.

Learn from this and move on.

Next time you call in sick, be sick and stay the fuck at home.

Also, keep your fucking mouth shut, especially while you're on probation.

Love you bro.

Lmfaoooooooo
 
should have stayed the fuck home.

But you went in. Then you had to go and be a smartass...while you're in a probationary period.

Then you had to go back in the next day, still steaming about this bullshit, and be some kind of Canadian/Lebanese Johnny Cochran. Telling the HR person you know the law and they owe you money. Again...while you're in a probationary period.

You were a liability. They had to get rid of you. Who knows what you were going to try to do next?

Not sure how Canada is, but here you work "at will" and you ca be let go for any reason or no reason at all.

Learn from this and move on.

Next time you call in sick, be sick and stay the fuck at home.

Also, keep your fucking mouth shut, especially while you're on probation.

Love you bro.


Harsh, but truthful.
 
should have stayed the fuck home.

But you went in. Then you had to go and be a smartass...while you're in a probationary period.

Then you had to go back in the next day, still steaming about this bullshit, and be some kind of Canadian/Lebanese Johnny Cochran. Telling the HR person you know the law and they owe you money. Again...while you're in a probationary period.

You were a liability. They had to get rid of you. Who knows what you were going to try to do next?

Not sure how Canada is, but here you work "at will" and you ca be let go for any reason or no reason at all.

Learn from this and move on.

Next time you call in sick, be sick and stay the fuck at home.

Also, keep your fucking mouth shut, especially while you're on probation.

Love you bro.

Within probation period you have zero leg to stand on.

Outside of probation it's 3 warnings 1 is verbal but documented other 2 are written warning.

CEO tad harsh but he's all about tough love it is truthful though. Never go to HR saying you went to the labour board if you don't already have another job lined up that's a big ass red flag they will find what ever they need to get you out.

HR role is not to protect employees it's to protect the company
 
Seems odd the mgr would be doing this for someone hitting all their numbers. They must have had some ill will toward you before or they would have gone to bat for you. I don't get it.

Having said that speak to a human when you call in sick. It's ok to leave a VM but call back to verify they acknowledge it.
 
I don't think it's the manager having some personal ill will, I think the issue was going to the labor board. Management is wary of employees who are sticklers for every rule in the handbook or who appear eager to bring cases against the company. Unfortunately, as everyone else basically pointed out, companies have full authority to fire workers during the probationary period without much reason and the whole, "You're just not a good fit" excuse, while just that, is more than enough.
 
Traz I run a fairly large operation and have several people I deal with. The contacting the labor board and then demanding your pay via your rights determined by the labor board is a fucking giant red flag. Two thing I do not put up with are smart asses and trouble makers. You kinda put yourself in the sights with your hot headed attitude. Can the bad attitude bro, the work place is no place for hot heads bro. Slow your roll
 
Traz I run a fairly large operation and have several people I deal with. The contacting the labor board and then demanding your pay via your rights determined by the labor board is a fucking giant red flag. Two thing I do not put up with are smart asses and trouble makers. You kinda put yourself in the sights with your hot headed attitude. Can the bad attitude bro, the work place is no place for hot heads bro. Slow your roll

Who the fuck do you think you are?
 
what was the job? Also, I disagree with kissing ass. No one likes a brown noser. But you do have to be likeable and can't be acting all macho when you're on a probation period.
 
what was the job? Also, I disagree with kissing ass. No one likes a brown noser. But you do have to be likeable and can't be acting all macho when you're on a probation period.

I still baffles me after most of the shit Traz posts how I am the unlikeable asshole, the hot head and the guy with the big ego. This ngrs ego got him fired. Well I am the fucking boss on my job so I can have an ego, but other than that does anybody see the irony here?
 
Did everyone except me miss the blatant fuck you email to the manager?

The blatant fuck you email was not to management it was to some over-glorified secretary in HR. Besides, if the HR rep hadn't sent Traz such an ignorant email, maybe he wouldn't have replied in a way that obviously pointed out what a fucking idiot the HR rep was.
 
after reading all this, gotta be honest, i woulda fired your ass too... my guys here know better.. im a fucking lunatic at work and everyone knows it... im also very good to my men... happy workers are better workers, but cost me money, spit in my face, stab me in the back, make me look stupid, or act ungrateful and ill throw you through a fucking window... then they can call the labor board... the funny thing about new york is its the one place you can fall off a curb.... and break EVERY fucking bone in your body... ive said that a few times over here and still my complaint box reads reads 0 lolol
 
after reading all this, gotta be honest, i woulda fired your ass too... my guys here know better.. im a fucking lunatic at work and everyone knows it... im also very good to my men... happy workers are better workers, but cost me money, spit in my face, stab me in the back, make me look stupid, or act ungrateful and ill throw you through a fucking window... then they can call the labor board... the funny thing about new york is its the one place you can fall off a curb.... and break EVERY fucking bone in your body... ive said that a few times over here and still my complaint box reads reads 0 lolol

you're not going to throw anyone through a goddamn window
 
after reading all this, gotta be honest, i woulda fired your ass too... my guys here know better.. im a fucking lunatic at work and everyone knows it... im also very good to my men... happy workers are better workers, but cost me money, spit in my face, stab me in the back, make me look stupid, or act ungrateful and ill throw you through a fucking window... then they can call the labor board... the funny thing about new york is its the one place you can fall off a curb.... and break EVERY fucking bone in your body... ive said that a few times over here and still my complaint box reads reads 0 lolol

You must work in HR.
 
This is as far as I'm willing to go. Smh asking me to make a cock meat sandwich with hundreds. Holding up paper cocks and shit. Man this thread has gone to shit. From jobs to hundreds and cocks. NEEEEXXXXTTTT!!!
 
What a shitty run outfit. The fact that they would ask u to book feeling ill a few days in advance is ridculuous. Have u been late a few times? That'd be the only reason i could see them sending u a msg like that just to make point. If someone calls in and says they not feeling good and then they show up I would admire that they want to work.
If ur pretty reliable then it sounds like someone there has got it in for u and I'd get a lawyer and start looking for a new job and have them pay ur bills until u find one. If u go back in I'd pull records that back up ur performance.
Ur manager apparently has something against u to take the situation up a notch and inform other mgrs. Could they be threatened by ur performance?


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This is as far as I'm willing to go. Smh asking me to make a cock meat sandwich with hundreds. Holding up paper cocks and shit. Man this thread has gone to shit. From jobs to hundreds and cocks. NEEEEXXXXTTTT!!!

I don't think that's really your hand. Your watch isn't tacky enough for NY city. Needs more fake gold and glued-on rhinestones.
 
10k.

Can we please focus on poor Alcatraz here!!!!! Lmao the man is going thru a crisis!!!

LOL @ you son.

People who brag about how much money they have or make are the one's who are broke. Even if you did have that much cash on hand why would you? Makes no sense to not have it invested making you money instead of taking pictures of it and posting it on an internet forum.

I'm calling 100% BS on you and all of your posts.

Have a nice day.
 
LOL @ you son.

People who brag about how much money they have or make are the one's who are broke. Even if you did have that much cash on hand why would you? Makes no sense to not have it invested making you money instead of taking pictures of it and posting it on an internet forum.

I'm calling 100% BS on you nad all of your posts.

Have a nice day.

Nice fucking first post, asshole.
 
LOL @ you son.

People who brag about how much money they have or make are the one's who are broke. Even if you did have that much cash on hand why would you? Makes no sense to not have it invested making you money instead of taking pictures of it and posting it on an internet forum.

I'm calling 100% BS on you and all of your posts.

Have a nice day.

u mad?

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LOL @ you son.

People who brag about how much money they have or make are the one's who are broke. Even if you did have that much cash on hand why would you? Makes no sense to not have it invested making you money instead of taking pictures of it and posting it on an internet forum.

I'm calling 100% BS on you and all of your posts.

Have a nice day.

Who the fuck are you?
 
LOL @ you son.

People who brag about how much money they have or make are the one's who are broke. Even if you did have that much cash on hand why would you? Makes no sense to not have it invested making you money instead of taking pictures of it and posting it on an internet forum.

I'm calling 100% BS on you and all of your posts.

Have a nice day.

douche bag... way to come out making friends.. smh u cock
 
Guys, and ladies, let's look at the facts:

1- My manager specifically asked that when I'm going to be late / absent to call her cell phone and leave a voicemail. She doesn't work on Fridays (works from home) and she doesnt have access to her emails in the morning

2- my performance is exemplary - way above target

3- im normally very well-behaved, polite, never give attitude, etc...

4- the emails from HR were aggressive and full of attitude

5- we have no sick days at the company so they were forcing me to take an unpaid day

6- shutting up about your rights is bullshit you're all a bunch of brown nosing assholes if you stfu about your rights....i moved to canada looking for a better life and just fair treatement, not to feel like im still back home
 
Guys, and ladies, let's look at the facts:

1- My manager specifically asked that when I'm going to be late / absent to call her cell phone and leave a voicemail. She doesn't work on Fridays (works from home) and she doesnt have access to her emails in the morning

2- my performance is exemplary - way above target

3- im normally very well-behaved, polite, never give attitude, etc...

4- the emails from HR were aggressive and full of attitude

5- we have no sick days at the company so they were forcing me to take an unpaid day

6- shutting up about your rights is bullshit you're all a bunch of brown nosing assholes if you stfu about your rights....i moved to canada looking for a better life and just fair treatement, not to feel like im still back home

Being the only person that's actually worked with Traz I can vouch for 1-3 guessing 4 to be true I seen some bitches in HR at companies that's why I said you never go to them.

5 it is a shitty company to work for if there is no paid sick days

6 is within you probation period sorry but that's dumb period. Also 6 no offence you will never get ahead in corporate world with out kissing a little ass that's a fact Bro doesn't matter what your sales are. More to 6 this industry is small people talk big time never burn a bridge it's better to smile and eat shit from time to time then completely fuck up future business opportunities.
 
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traz fuk the atlantic side of n/america, you should ditch those hillbillies and head out west lotsa opportunity in BC
 
if nothing else, get your cdl, build a pulley weight system, and haul produce/goods while training for arm wrestling super stardom
 
LOL @ you son.

People who brag about how much money they have or make are the one's who are broke. Even if you did have that much cash on hand why would you? Makes no sense to not have it invested making you money instead of taking pictures of it and posting it on an internet forum.

I'm calling 100% BS on you and all of your posts.

Have a nice day.

Gotta have at least $30,000 cash and 2 or 3 passports stashed away in case you need to leave the country quickly though.
 
This is as far as I'm willing to go. Smh asking me to make a cock meat sandwich with hundreds. Holding up paper cocks and shit. Man this thread has gone to shit. From jobs to hundreds and cocks. NEEEEXXXXTTTT!!!

Who holds a stack of money against a graffiti wall?

Drug dealers that's who.
 
could be a blessing in disguise bro....
a buddy of mine had the same thing happen to him, and within a week he landed a job making double what he did the other one!!!!
 
Who holds a stack of money against a graffiti wall?

Drug dealers that's who.

Whoa whoa whoaaaa I'm NO fucking drug dealer, they sell crack to kids... I prefer "street pharmacist"... Lol I just did a business deal and a guy decided to pay some in cash for a discount. It's always good to have decent cash on hand.

Jeez people its only 10k. If I saw 50 I'd be impressed. We all know that bs amount will pay our bills for a month.




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Being the only person that's actually worked with Traz I can vouch for 1-3 guessing 4 to be true I seen some bitches in HR at companies that's why I said you never go to them.

5 it is a shitty company to work for if there is no paid sick days

6 is within you probation period sorry but that's dumb period. Also 6 no offence you will never get ahead in corporate world with out kissing a little ass that's a fact Bro doesn't matter what your sales are. More to 6 this industry is small people talk big time never burn a bridge it's better to smile and eat shit from time to time then completely fuck up future business opportunities.


I hate kissing ass...hate it.

I'm seriously considering moving away from sales this is bulshit

I already had an interview this morning for a management consulting position...i doubt i'll get it
 
I hate kissing ass...hate it.

I'm seriously considering moving away from sales this is bulshit

I already had an interview this morning for a management consulting position...i doubt i'll get it

It may hurt to kiss ass, but rocking the boat never works when you're the new guy.
 
Probation period..you have nothing to stand on..the first reply..mr VP..of what Taco.bell?
Is flat out wrong ..you have no.case! nor where you defamed in your character ..what character ..you didnt even complete the introduction period..for the job..maybe ...call when your sick..stay home to be sick..get a doc note..walk in clinic? To state your sick..then keep your mouth shut when you talk to HR or management ...its a learning experience ..I had the same thing happen to me..I ran off at the mouth to management and lost a pretty good job once!
Just move on..learn from it and get a new job...maybe one closer to you home..bc jesus 2 hours each way..holy shit..no wonder you got sick...sick of driving two hours each way ...
 
I hate kissing ass...hate it.

I'm seriously considering moving away from sales this is bulshit

I already had an interview this morning for a management consulting position...i doubt i'll get it

You wont with that shitty attitude :)

I prefer to call it stroking the ego not kissing ass. Everyone needs a good stroking now and then.
 
Whoa whoa whoaaaa I'm NO fucking drug dealer, they sell crack to kids... I prefer "street pharmacist"... Lol I just did a business deal and a guy decided to pay some in cash for a discount. It's always good to have decent cash on hand.

Jeez people its only 10k. If I saw 50 I'd be impressed. We all know that bs amount will pay our bills for a month.




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LOL @ moral relativism ... a drug dealer is a drug dealer period you don't know what you are selling wont end up in the hands of a kid.
 
And unless your CEO...Goodluck doing anything in the manner of being successful if you can't kiss some ass...that to me just says ..I think Im better and smarter than all my bosses ..but still go home everyday and Im just a sales consultant ...work to the top..then.be the big shot...if you can't kiss ass ..you will never be the big shot..and really the big shot..kisses the.most ass..thats why they made it!
Loose the.superior complex and you will move up faster..and Im not bashing you..I WAS you..and now I learned and I am doing bigger things than I ever thought ...and also it could be a blessing...I bet you..your nxt job..you will.look back and say..this is why that happened and I'm better off and glad it happened...best of luck
 
Probation period..you have nothing to stand on..the first reply..mr VP..of what Taco.bell?
Is flat out wrong ..you have no.case! nor where you defamed in your character ..what character ..you didnt even complete the introduction period..for the job..maybe ...call when your sick..stay home to be sick..get a doc note..walk in clinic? To state your sick..then keep your mouth shut when you talk to HR or management ...its a learning experience ..I had the same thing happen to me..I ran off at the mouth to management and lost a pretty good job once!
Just move on..learn from it and get a new job...maybe one closer to you home..bc jesus 2 hours each way..holy shit..no wonder you got sick...sick of driving two hours each way ...

Ok first off, yea I am a v.p. second I've made more money in a month than you make in two years. Relax I know what I'm talking about. I was doing business deals when u were still shitting mustard in your diapers.

When anyone publicly makes you look bad or verbally attacks you for whatever reason not only is it not professional it IS in fact defamation of character. They portray you to look a certain way, in his case, unreliable and like a smart ass when he wasn't. He simply stood up for himself and of you are a good enough company to enforce laws be good enough to follow them yourself. Period


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Ok first off, yea I am a v.p. second I've made more money in a month than you make in two years. Relax I know what I'm talking about. I was doing business deals when u were still shitting mustard in your diapers.

When anyone publicly makes you look bad or verbally attacks you for whatever reason not only is it not professional it IS in fact defamation of character. They portray you to look a certain way, in his case, unreliable and like a smart ass when he wasn't. He simply stood up for himself and of you are a good enough company to enforce laws be good enough to follow them yourself. Period


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pics of your paystub or lies!
 
Wait until Plunkey starts posting again. Then all you fuckers will see some real cash.

Nobody pulls down more cash than Plunkey. Nobody.
 
Wish Velvett posted again then everyone would really know what its like to have your shit together.
 
I can't imagine what it's like to deal with that kind of petty ass faggotry, probationary period or no. Or having the kind of job where it matters so much that you're an hour late, or that you didn't notify your boss in a particular way.

My slacker ass would have been peaced the fuck out forthwith. Your only realistic option is to kill everyone at that company, starting with noodles1010 ($3k e-baller alert!111!!!).
 
Noodles..the only reason you made.more then me is bc you suck.dick on the street for $50 a pop..and you do like 100 "pops" per day..do yeah...more than me...even though I am a hard working ..med profession ...work for my own way of life..but I must say..My trust fund makes.more in interest every quarter than you make in ten lifetimes..so what you gonna say now...or.should I say..well you a vp...Im a President..then you could say..well I'm on the board...and then I say..well Im the chairman ..and then you say..Im non profit...then I say..Im the WHO.....so really who this fucking cares about money ..on a forum where we both could be 12 in boxers eating chips..using a ten yr old HP desktop..running windows 95 and dialup.....really Im running alienware...windows 8 through a T5 direct line from my helicopter...which is in hovver mode above my Lambo dealership ..which I bought bc I couldnt find the color I wanted ....I mean really ..more money than me...so what..Ill put up a pick of the eight inchs I care most about and then we can really compare dicks...sound good!..lol
 
Noodles..the only reason you made.more then me is bc you suck.dick on the street for $50 a pop..and you do like 100 "pops" per day..do yeah...more than me...even though I am a hard working ..med profession ...work for my own way of life..but I must say..My trust fund makes.more in interest every quarter than you make in ten lifetimes..so what you gonna say now...or.should I say..well you a vp...Im a President..then you could say..well I'm on the board...and then I say..well Im the chairman ..and then you say..Im non profit...then I say..Im the WHO.....so really who this fucking cares about money ..on a forum where we both could be 12 in boxers eating chips..using a ten yr old HP desktop..running windows 95 and dialup.....really Im running alienware...windows 8 through a T5 direct line from my helicopter...which is in hovver mode above my Lambo dealership ..which I bought bc I couldnt find the color I wanted ....I mean really ..more money than me...so what..Ill put up a pick of the eight inchs I care most about and then we can really compare dicks...sound good!..lol

Doyouknowwhatafuckingparagraphis?
 
Noodles..the only reason you made.more then me is bc you suck.dick on the street for $50 a pop..and you do like 100 "pops" per day..do yeah...more than me...even though I am a hard working ..med profession ...work for my own way of life..but I must say..My trust fund makes.more in interest every quarter than you make in ten lifetimes..so what you gonna say now...or.should I say..well you a vp...Im a President..then you could say..well I'm on the board...and then I say..well Im the chairman ..and then you say..Im non profit...then I say..Im the WHO.....so really who this fucking cares about money ..on a forum where we both could be 12 in boxers eating chips..using a ten yr old HP desktop..running windows 95 and dialup.....really Im running alienware...windows 8 through a T5 direct line from my helicopter...which is in hovver mode above my Lambo dealership ..which I bought bc I couldnt find the color I wanted ....I mean really ..more money than me...so what..Ill put up a pick of the eight inchs I care most about and then we can really compare dicks...sound good!..lol

I'm better than you lmao.


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This is the best thread ever - 2 very focused conversations; one being ridiculous- and the other about Traz.

Traz you're welcome to come my way and I will put you to work ;)
 
Noodles..the only reason you made.more then me is bc you suck.dick on the street for $50 a pop..and you do like 100 "pops" per day..do yeah...more than me...even though I am a hard working ..med profession ...work for my own way of life..but I must say..My trust fund makes.more in interest every quarter than you make in ten lifetimes..so what you gonna say now...or.should I say..well you a vp...Im a President..then you could say..well I'm on the board...and then I say..well Im the chairman ..and then you say..Im non profit...then I say..Im the WHO.....so really who this fucking cares about money ..on a forum where we both could be 12 in boxers eating chips..using a ten yr old HP desktop..running windows 95 and dialup.....really Im running alienware...windows 8 through a T5 direct line from my helicopter...which is in hovver mode above my Lambo dealership ..which I bought bc I couldnt find the color I wanted ....I mean really ..more money than me...so what..Ill put up a pick of the eight inchs I care most about and then we can really compare dicks...sound good!..lol

Enjoy being bant you fucking bitch. Don't ever send me a pm like that again
 
I'm pretty pissed off I gt layed off, so my attitude is shitty right now. absolutely.

Your letting that shitty attitude get in the way of landing what could be a better job and overall a better situation. It very much could all be a blessing you didn't seem overly thrilled at the new company just saying.
 
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