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I think people under 20....

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need to be banned from this board guys......lets face it, thats too damn young to be hittin gear


it piss's me off to see all these post from a 16, 17, 18 punk who weighs 140 pounds and lookin to gain with gear

they need to learn to eat, train and let their bodies mature first..
 
The you need to keep thinking.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You need to grow mentally if you think every person under 20 isn't dedicated!!!

Your a Joke
 
don't tell me that your post doesn't sound like your talking about me. if i'm wrong then i'm wrong. i'm not even going to juice and i'm not looking to gain weight by getting on gear. read my post.
 
lilman22 said:
don't tell me that your post doesn't sound like your talking about me. if i'm wrong then i'm wrong. i'm not even going to juice and i'm not looking to gain weight by getting on gear. read my post.
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wise....
 
I agree with the general belief that you shouldn't use gear until your body stops growing, but we have a lot of members that reseach this information prior to beginning a cycle. And for every post we see with a young person on a cycle, we've probably dissuaded 10 from starting. (At least I hope so)

Anyhow, lets take the good with the bad and just remember that we're here to educate everyone.
 
i agree that teens should not juice but disagree about banning them...this is a place for them to learn and possibly avoid mistakes...there is nothing any of us can do to stop them from using but maybe they can learn a few things by being here
 
I don't think so, I am under 20 and I know of many good bro's who are under 20 on this board and contribute great info!

M18
 
lilman22 said:
don't tell me that your post doesn't sound like your talking about me. if i'm wrong then i'm wrong. i'm not even going to juice and i'm not looking to gain weight by getting on gear. read my post.
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See a person under 20 who is using his head!!!!!!
Good Job lilman22!!!!!!!

"My sup=roids"
Your talk "which is all it is" Means shit to me. I will now put you on my ignore list.
 
I'm under 20... People are here to learn. Just because people are learning about cycling gear and how to use it, where to inject it and proper dosage doesn't mean they are going to abuse it.. I agree that the 15, 16 year olds are not ready for gear, but they have a right to learn and be adeucated about what they may take in the future. And even if they were to take it at age 16, this board is here to provide them with info from people who know what they are talking about and can help them be safe... Would you rather read about the abundance of 15, 16 year old deaths because of AAS od's? or would you rather help them be safe? I think everyone here would rather they be safe...
~Yum
 
I do agree that anyone under 20 should NOT be taking gear. However, there are some members of this board that do not juice and use it for other forms of info. Granted, they are in the minority, but there are some.
 
i don't agree with banning them from the board.. how would you anyways.

i do agree that NO person under 20 should use AAS. I have seen so many people make HUGE gains naturally up until the time they were 22 or 23 just by tweaking their diet or training a little bit.

I don't think that anyone under 20, no matter how long they've been lifting, knows all they need to know to get their body to grow and it's best optimal condition naturally.

I do agree in educating everybody. There are some that are here just to learn and have the patience and virtue to withhold from using AAS, even though they might have a local supplier readily available. I also think it's better to educate those that just can't wait and have a local source who would use it either way so that they don't get hurt.

BUT what about the ones that don't have a source and gain one through this website? There are guys who say they don't want younger guys to be using before their 20's, yet i bet you that they have helped one of these younger guys get connected. That's what i think is just wrong.

For those of you under 20, don't take offense to my post. It is how I feel and i will stand by my virtues and morals strongly, but i also remember how it feels when your 18 or 19 and thinking "i'm a man" and you feel like you know everything. and honestly, if i was on this board when i was younger, no matter what anybody said on this board, i would still have used AAS if they were available to me.

i don't regret not taking AAS until now.. not one bit. but you guys who do, when your 25 or 30 and you look back on your life, i bet that you will wish that you waited.


peace
 
I took that kind of offfensive because I used to weigh 137 lbs and because I have been reading the board for over 5 months I started trainning harder and wanted to gain weight naturally. I come to the boards for help because you all know your SH*@ and I admire that. I feel now that I proved to myself I can gain weight and I feel I would like to do a cycle. But at least I am 22 so thats cool.
 
Under twenty need advice 2

My buddy first started juicing when he was sixteen, the doctor recently told him ( and I don't quote b/c i dont fully understand myself, maybe some med professionals can help)that his underdeveloped organs became dependent on the sauce??? also there was a plasma buildup and his muscles were wrapped around each other and not fully functional. If he had an info source like this board when he was sixteen, maybe he would have listened to some of the vets advice, maybe he wouldn't have but at least with this board being open to everyone regardless of age the possibility is there.

Whatever, just my two cents
wiggum
 
Just to put my .02 into it....

I believe that people under 20 shouldn't juice, but we can't stop them from learning. On the other hand i have seen alot of 17 and 18 yr olds more dedicated to lifting than some guys who are 25 yrs old and Juice. I believe it has to do with you dedication and discipline. I am 20 years old and i trained for about 3 years seriously before considering gear, and you know what....I love it, but now i know i could of probably waited at least another 2 years. And this board has taught me alot, there is not reason younger guys should be held back from the Elite benefits...

For what its worth...
M56M
 
I dont dispute the fact that those under 20 need to learn info as well, however, the posts that I see, and have seen many, about how these young kids want this that and the other to miraculously gain hard earned weight and muscle. It doesnt work that way.

It seems as though these folks, not all, are not educating themselves off this board, if that were the case they would read a bit more and learn before posting.

Lilman, if your so interested in growing naturally, and I reccomend that, then why are you on this board? And this post was not intended for you, however after reading your post it did remind me of a good number of posts that have come up lately and have gotten under my skin a bit.

I think alot of you are taking this way to personal, I was trying to point out that a good number of 20 and under folks out here are posting things they have no clue about. I do see a lot of well informed individuals who have responded to this post and are apparently under 20. You folks in my opinion are a select few in the age group that do have the proper information. maybe I should have entitled the Post, those under 20 and dont know shit, should be banned?
 
lilboy


just read your post.......and you did say you are considering a cycle, did you not?

at 17 the only thing that you should be considering, is which protein sources are best

you made my point actually in your post...........if you were on this board for educational purposes, you would have listened to many and not have been "considering" at 17 anyhow
 
Why is it too young to use steroids under 20? What is the difference? I agree someone under 18 should wait but once 18 why not?
 
i am on this board to learn. people have helped me out on my weight lifting schedule, diet and other stuff. i'm here to learn how to use AAS properly when i think it is time for me to start taking it. I just decided why not start learning now so when the time comes i will know what to do. that is why i am on this board.
 
why 18? because legally your an adult?

folks dont mature at the same time, however, in my experience 20 is a better measure in life


lilman,

good to see you are seeing the light. good luck to you.
 
From what i've read am i'm not an expert by any means is that your muscles are not fully matured until your mid to late twenties. With this being said it would only seem natural to assume that if you were to introduce a foreign substance into the muscle earlier, it would disrupt the natural growth sequence. Jesus christ i'm starting to sound like a text book guy help.

Wiggum
 
im only 18, i am extremely dedicated.. i actully think i was more dedicated before i started hitting the gas..

you should pass judjment on people
 
I've been lifting weights since I was 13. I've been reading mags and articles since I was 14. I used juice when I was 17. In reality I waited 4 years....gee, being that that's is probably longer than many guys around here....hum. Anyway, I don't have regrets about what I did, but I think it was right for me. I don't beleive if you have under 3 years of training under your belt to learn what works for you and what doesn't, then you don't need to USE juice, but that shouldn't mean you can't LEARN about juice.

Basicly, when I was 17, I was going to get my hands on gear, one way or another... at least I was on the boards and educated as oppossed to stacking Dbol, Anadrol, and Winny for awesome gains and a little hardening of those gains, lol. Boards are GREAT for people under 20, but they shouldn't let people like you on them "My Supp"
 
Unless your balls got cut off in a lawn-mowing accident, you should still have a great amount of natural testosterone when you're 18. If you can't make gains when you're 18 it's obvious you're not eating & training correctly.
 
fag machine your an idiot

another guy who justifies his stupidity for using gear at 17!!!

again, you learned nothing!

instead "you felt you were ready?"-----I dont give a rats ass how you FELT about shit, bottom line, I bet your body wasnt ready for any of that and had you learned and not looked at the mag pictures you would have come up with a new answer. (the right one)
 
DTOX said:
Unless your balls got cut off in a lawn-mowing accident, you should still have a great amount of natural testosterone when you're 18. If you can't make gains when you're 18 it's obvious you're not eating & training correctly.
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yup.
 
supp=roids how do you know that alot of these guys who have more then 106 posts aren't under 20 shit I believe a good 25% of the people on this board are under 20 and you know what look at mustang this guy is a fucking genious at this stuff and he ain't 20 he is under the age and he damn well knows what he is talking about and I think I speak for about 90% of the people on this board. That statement is bullshit because you are saying all people under 20. I honestly think that it is your body do what you want but get as much info as you can because after all you are only going to get smarter and not dumber. I don't mean this as a flame but i don't beleive that younger guys should be banned neither. Oh yeah the posts on the side 52 or whatever on mine I didn't start posting stuff until I was at a point where I thought that I could be as of some help with some of my knowledge of learning about as.
 
LOL, guys, read this again...


My Supp= Roids! said:
fag machine your an idiot

another guy who justifies his stupidity for using gear at 17!!!

again, you learned nothing!

instead "you felt you were ready?"-----I dont give a rats ass how you FELT about shit, bottom line, I bet your body wasnt ready for any of that and had you learned and not looked at the mag pictures you would have come up with a new answer. (the right one)
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Who's the idiot? Talk about some bad sentence structure! Anyway, I don't have time to bicker with peons, as you have officially proven yourself to be, it seems that most people agree with me - education is key.

BTW, at 17, I was 6'1 and 221 lbs before I even did my first cycle. No, I wasn't fat. How big are you? LOL, I doubt you are even the size I was at 17....but then again, I'm the idiot, right? :confused:

Have a nice time being satisfied listening to yourself talk because I don't think anyone else wants to hear what you have to say after this post. :bawling:

(BigJay, I'm putting him on my ignore list as well...)
 
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Believe it or not, when I first started getting interested in bodybuilding at age 13, I read EVERYTHING I could get my hands on regarding the sport...the training, the eating, supplementation, contest stuff, EVERYTHING. When I was 15, I started to research the hell out of gear, GH, and insulin. By that time, I was already in the gym every morning before school and in three sports. Senior year, I deadlifted 525lbs at a BW of 188lbs. Competed in my first show at age 18, and THEN Started my first cycle at age 20!!! I don't regret taking the extra time to learn all that I could (and there is still a ton to learn)...I learned a lot on Anabolex when I was 17-20, and if I would have been banned from a board because of my age, I probably would have done some pretty harmful stuff to my body. To all the bros that ate young, believe me, you can grow and get strong without the gear, but there comes a point in one's life where 250lbs becomes a reality...Please make wise decisions...for your safety and others! Later =)

<--JAMMER-->
 
gurupimp6969 said:
you know what look at mustang this guy is a fucking genious at this stuff and he ain't 20 he is under the age and he damn well knows what he is talking about .
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uh, get off his jock bro.
 
sentence structure? ahahahahh----i admit im not an english professor, but fagmachine, apparently you dont get it, because you "feel" your right.

I am 6-2/235 shit head.

and yet again, I dont give a rats ass how big you were at 17 either!!!!!!!!

you weren't ready at that age! go read some books on mucular development, no not the mag, but actual intelligent books in the sections of the library you never go to. oh, you do know what a library is right?

after you read some scientific facts, come back and tell me how "ready" you body was for gear
 
Ban those under 20?

Shit no.

If you could actually find a way to do that, it would lock them out of very useful information. How is some kid who doesn't know shit about gear, but who is desperate to put on some weight (like I was), going to learn anything if we lock them out of the places to get information?

You think because they come to this board, it's somehow going to influence them to use it? They're already interested in starting. But maybe, just maybe if they come here they might learn something, and make the educated decision to hit it hard for a few years, before starting up.

This board as well as AF will be around for a long time. I've been here for a year and a half, and when I started, I didn't know my hole from an ass in the ground. I got the "Anabolic Reference Guide" and figured I was ready to rock.

Young men with a knack to start taking steroids need not be locked out. They need guidance.
 
hell i wish i had this forum 23 years ago when i was bangin the juice blindly.....


back then liver tablets was the hot sup....hehe
 
decem hey bro I ain't jockin him. You to are kinda smart coulda been a genious if it wasn't for that comment. He has helped me out with cycles alot.
 
its best to wait till your 21 but i have no room to talk i started at 16 and i wouldnt advise anyone starting this young but just because your a teen doesnt mean you dont know what your doing...i knew a shit load about cycling in my teens and when i first came to this board i thought mustang 18 was a very knowledgeable guy....so when i found out he was 18 did it change my opinion of him?...hell no..the guy knows his shit..so dont judge anyone by their age...we are suppose to be here to help and guide each other....

the fact is teenagers want to get big... i did and you older guys did also....so they are very much a part of this forum so lets help them not push them aside to fend for themselves and get messed up..

this board is of great knowledge so put it to use guys
 
WTF, we should be banned? HORSESHIT! i'm 18, and i am going to juice. i have made a personal decision to use only non aromatising steroids so that the estrogen doesn't seal my bone plates. i bet you didn't think i was smart enough to do that did you. hell, i joined the fuckin military, and i can't juice? that's bullshit. once again, look at mustang, he's about the same age as i am, and he know's his shit. in fact, he seems like he knows more than your stupid ass. that's it, just needed to vent a little.
 
therealj said:
if you're old enough to vote.....stick whatever you want in your ass(or biceps)
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...umm, "stick whatever you want in your ass" except dicks right? Darts yes. Dicks no.
 
well would you ban me? i am 19. i was contemplating a cycle when i had just turned 18, because like most uneducated people i thought steroids were magic pills that made you huge. It is because of this board that i didnt start that cycle (which would have been 7 dbol's a day, hahaha). Now i can laugh, because i see how stupid that would have been. Without the knowledge provided on this board, most people would get there info from some asshole at the gym who is just trying to make some money. I had no idea what nolvadex was, nor clomid. now i know a hell of a lot more than the average, and becoming wiser by the moment. i am probably the reason some of my friends havent had any serious side effects (gyno).
 
I think to rap this up "My supps" I will simply say a few words.

Lee Priest
Shawn Ray
Arnold Schwarzenegger

and all the others that we don't know about. Arnold has kids, Lee will one day, and Shawn... well we don't know about him.

I'm not sure what damaging effects you are referring to, but I'm 21 now, and working part time in the medical field while earning my degree with the hopes of being a chemical engineer at some point, so I mean, maybe your right...??? What are you? A garbage man or something?

Anyway, if you think those guys are exceptions because of their good genetics, most would call my height and weight at age 17 decent genetic dispositioning.

Your post might have had a bit more intelligence if you simply stated, "Those who have not built a solid foundation, or those who do not know how to train or eat correctly, should not be here." Putting an age range on that however is ridiculous! I went from 140 lb. to over 220 lbs in 4 years...Gee, I guess I haven't built a good solid natural foundation. LOL.

Maybe you should check into the post "Why reach your natural potential naturally?" even in arguments against it, they give way to the fact that there is absolutely no scientific evidence to suggest you will harm yourself or hinder gains by not starting at the last step.

We all only have so many years of existence in our lives. Why not walk around in those years as a big dog, as opposed to waiting until you reach some predetermined age range? While I think 17 is too young for 98% of the population, I added 80 lbs in only four years of training...I don't fit into that 98%! Accept the fact you have inferior genetics for size...not only muscular size, but apparently brain nerve conductivity as well.

I don't think there's any room for rational posts here, so I will just leave you to your bickering, since that is what it seems you enjoy to do with your free time.
 
I'm 25 now but grew up in Tx. When I made up my mind to do my first cycle nothing was going to stop me.Remember when you wanted nothing more thanto be one of the "big guys".I only wish I had access to imformation like what I find here on this board, maybe it would have convinced me to wait but probably not.At least I would have had a better idea of the right ,safe way to do things.I see both points of veiw but remember all you older guys hind sight is always 20/20
 
gurupimp6969 said:
decem hey bro I ain't jockin him. You to are kinda smart coulda been a genious if it wasn't for that comment.
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:confused: damn it janet.... i was going to come back with this witty comment, but ever since i made that comment, i just can't seem to think of any..

i was kidding guru.. sorry, i guess i should have put a "j/k" behind it.

do i have a chance of being a genius again?
 
wesdog said:
hell, i joined the fuckin military, and i can't juice? that's bullshit.
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no really wesdog, you CAN'T juice.. it's against the UCMJ. sorry bro.
 
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