I might not be a mod but....

[stevesmi]

maybe because we talk freely about subjects way more sensitive than fucking AAS? does childhood friends mean anything to you?

nice theory you have there. too bad it didn't work like that in real life.
and i don't see any logic in running bloodwork if you don't feel anything.
of course if you feel bloated and have a nice new rack then your estrogen is through the roof and bloodwork will confirm that. or if you feel like your liver is going to explode.
there's no point in running bloodwork if nothing even feels wrong, the way you feel hints what might be wrong. that's like taking headache pills out of boredom, i don't see how bloodwork can confirm something with no symptoms, at least symptoms related to AAS
you just seem to throw shit at anyone who does not agree with you and proves you wrong

all i've seen you do is post horrible advice and attack everyone else who disagrees. plus you are underage and keep dodging the question. give me a reason why i shouldn't ban you? when someone becomes more trouble than their worth its time for them to go. i would take a chill pill and fix your attitude. you are only 19 and you don't know shit yet to be telling staff and board vets that they are full of shit. kids your age you are going through the "i know everything" stage where you think you know it all but don't know anything. we all went through it.

 

[wootoom]

maybe because we talk freely about subjects way more sensitive than fucking AAS? does childhood friends mean anything to you?

nice theory you have there. too bad it didn't work like that in real life.
and i don't see any logic in running bloodwork if you don't feel anything.
of course if you feel bloated and have a nice new rack then your estrogen is through the roof and bloodwork will confirm that. or if you feel like your liver is going to explode.
there's no point in running bloodwork if nothing even feels wrong, the way you feel hints what might be wrong. that's like taking headache pills out of boredom, i don't see how bloodwork can confirm something with no symptoms, at least symptoms related to AAS
you just seem to throw shit at anyone who does not agree with you and proves you wrong


i think you missed that part

congrats, for the time ive been here I have to give you the biggest waste of skin award

 

[ceo]

I just think about Arnold, jay, lee priest, to name a few who all starts young and look at what they achieved

The pros all have elite genetics too. Most IFBB pros still have to work to support themselves. Lol @ living the dream. There are 400 or so pros, out of 7 billion people. Joe many EF'ers do you think have a chance at turning pro? How many do you think even want to? Most kids wanting to do steroids are just lazy and want a short cut instead of putting in hard work. We live in a society of instant gratification.

 

[RickRock13]

Don't you know winny stacked with similac has an excellent synergistic effect for building muscles fast during the infancy stage? Yeah, studies have shown that babies who were fed winny mixed in similac were able to roll over in 1 month, which that usually occurs during the 3-6 month period of infancy .

Maybe that explains why my two year old can bench press his power wheels 4x4. I was on some high androgens when he was conceived, so its safe to say my strongest swimmer was on roids

 

[ceo]

they represent .1% of the population. the other 99.9% didn't amount to shit

genetics my friend..

More like 0.00000006%

 

[stevesmi]

More like 0.00000006%

hotdog!! so you're saying there's a chance?

 

[ceo]

maybe because we talk freely about subjects way more sensitive than fucking AAS? does childhood friends mean anything to you?

nice theory you have there. too bad it didn't work like that in real life.
and i don't see any logic in running bloodwork if you don't feel anything.
of course if you feel bloated and have a nice new rack then your estrogen is through the roof and bloodwork will confirm that. or if you feel like your liver is going to explode.
there's no point in running bloodwork if nothing even feels wrong, the way you feel hints what might be wrong. that's like taking headache pills out of boredom, i don't see how bloodwork can confirm something with no symptoms, at least symptoms related to AAS
you just seem to throw shit at anyone who does not agree with you and proves you wrong


i think you missed that part

Sometimes propel don't even know they have cancer until they get so sick they have to go in to the doctor. Then the get blood drawn and scans done an find out they are stage 4 and have maybe a year to live.

Perhaps if they would have had regular check ups they may have discovered something sooner if blood work had been done.

Shit like that happens all the time. You're young and dumb though. You think you know it all because you read anabolics 10th edition and follow gh15. How's Nasser doing now? Oh wait...

Nasser was a good guy. But he would talk about how you know you are using enough tren when you start pissing blood, and other crazy shit. Nice guy though. Terrible loss.

 

[liffalot]

I have seen a few posts on here where kids have been talking and thinking about running gear so I'm going to post about my first time.....when i was 17 one of my coaches gave me a cycle and i thought it was great and after that i was hitting it all the time it was the worst thing i ever did and i hate him for that i have had problems with my test levels for years,my dick only half ass works unless i take viagra and I'm only 29 so my advice to all you kids wanting to use gear is DON'T your test levels are thru the roof right now so take advantage of that AAS should be the last thing on your mind. I didn't post everything that has happened to me but if anyone wants to know i would be more than glad too so if you have any questions feel free to ask away I'm sure there are dome other bros on here that have done the same thing or would tell you there experiences and i cant stress this enough NO AAS UNTIL AT LEAST 21 I WOULD WAIT TILL 23 BUT THAT'S JUST ME

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Unfortunately kids of that age don't realize how high their test levels are until its gone lol. Looking back on how easy it was for me to get big and lean and stay that way I'm amazed at how pumped full of test I was.

Good post though, I know its hard, but gotta stay off of it until later.

The best thing that ever happened to me was getting scammed out of a large deal of money by a guy preying on young kids offering them juice. Had he been legitimate I might be seriously fucked up hormonally right now. I'd give that scamming asshole a big bearhug if I ever saw him again

 

[motionx77]

all i've seen you do is post horrible advice and attack everyone else who disagrees. plus you are underage and keep dodging the question. give me a reason why i shouldn't ban you? when someone becomes more trouble than their worth its time for them to go. i would take a chill pill and fix your attitude. you are only 19 and you don't know shit yet to be telling staff and board vets that they are full of shit. kids your age you are going through the "i know everything" stage where you think you know it all but don't know anything. we all went through it.

you've seen me give my best advice from how it worked for me in the real world. i don't come and vomit popular theories that everyone believes in just because others said so. i don't advocate something that i did not see with my own eyes. there's a very big diffrence between theory on AAS and how it works when you take them. there are tons, millions of articles that contradict each other to the letter. what can teach you better than actually doing it? (yes responsably, before you ask)

and when i talk about young people taking gear i talk about the guys who will still do it in 10 years time. the two guys i mentioned who took gear at 16 are now outlifting everyone i know at their bodyweight and one of them is doing his first competition soon, and everyone can tell he's taking straight 1st place. the guy has never skipped a meal and has never half-assed a training session. they pretty much live their dream and they have no plans of coming off. (and if the career ends, there is trt)

it's beyond obvious that the guys looking to get some bigger arms and abs for the beach have no business taking gear an i asume the people who read here are not like i mentioned in this paragaph, at least i hope. i myself eat 9 meals per day and train 4 times per week (5 if i can recover in time) plus conditioning plus mobility. i don't remember when i touched alcohol the last time (maybe when i was 15? around that time). or when i had less than 7-8 hours of sleep. or when i walked out of the gym not breathing heavy and walking easily. in the next year or two i plan to participate in a local strongman competition. i like to believe i'm pretty fucking serious about this thing otherwise i would just chill and eat pizza on the couch with my friends and goof around at 3AM piss drunk. even if i don't get to turn pro it is still one of the best experiences i have or will have. this is the big picture

there are many posts here written by people pushing their own products and the minute you argue about it they blow up and start throwing shit at you
the irony is that even you have that last link in your sig while arguing about the importance of bloodwork. all i do is i keep my estrogen low enough to not get gyno and take one thing at a time so i don't end up with high blood pressure or tren anxiety without knowing why (it doesn't take more than common sense to achieve these).
and that's what i tell everyone to do: think for themselves and take more than one opinion into account.

Sometimes propel don't even know they have cancer until they get so sick they have to go in to the doctor. Then the get blood drawn and scans done an find out they are stage 4 and have maybe a year to live.

Perhaps if they would have had regular check ups they may have discovered something sooner if blood work had been done.

Shit like that happens all the time. You're young and dumb though. You think you know it all because you read anabolics 10th edition and follow gh15. How's Nasser doing now? Oh wait...

Nasser was a good guy. But he would talk about how you know you are using enough tren when you start pissing blood, and other crazy shit. Nice guy though. Terrible loss.

i said related to AAS. it's beyond obvious that cancer is a completely other thing. i haven't read anabolics 10th edition from a to z. i see it describes all the compounds which is good to know for anyone. and i don't know much about nasser other than the fact that remained on high dosages of gear even after he quit bodybuilding. and i didn't see anything wrong or that did not work well for me in gh15's pocket bible. it's a good read for anyone interested in more than "putting some weight on"

 

[liffalot]

you've seen me give my best advice from how it worked for me in the real world. i don't come and vomit popular theories that everyone believes in just because others said so. i don't advocate something that i did not see with my own eyes. there's a very big diffrence between theory on AAS and how it works when you take them. there are tons, millions of articles that contradict each other to the letter. what can teach you better than actually doing it? (yes responsably, before you ask)

and when i talk about young people taking gear i talk about the guys who will still do it in 10 years time. the two guys i mentioned who took gear at 16 are now outlifting everyone i know at their bodyweight and one of them is doing his first competition soon, and everyone can tell he's taking straight 1st place. the guy has never skipped a meal and has never half-assed a training session. they pretty much live their dream and they have no plans of coming off. (and if the career ends, there is trt)

it's beyond obvious that the guys looking to get some bigger arms and abs for the beach have no business taking gear an i asume the people who read here are not like i mentioned in this paragaph, at least i hope. i myself eat 9 meals per day and train 4 times per week (5 if i can recover in time) plus conditioning plus mobility. i don't remember when i touched alcohol the last time (maybe when i was 15? around that time). or when i had less than 7-8 hours of sleep. or when i walked out of the gym not breathing heavy and walking easily. in the next year or two i plan to participate in a local strongman competition. i like to believe i'm pretty fucking serious about this thing otherwise i would just chill and eat pizza on the couch with my friends and goof around at 3AM piss drunk. even if i don't get to turn pro it is still one of the best experiences i have or will have. this is the big picture

there are many posts here written by people pushing their own products and the minute you argue about it they blow up and start throwing shit at you
the irony is that even you have that last link in your sig while arguing about the importance of bloodwork. all i do is i keep my estrogen low enough to not get gyno and take one thing at a time so i don't end up with high blood pressure or tren anxiety without knowing why (it doesn't take more than common sense to achieve these).
and that's what i tell everyone to do: think for themselves and take more than one opinion into account.




i said related to AAS. it's beyond obvious that cancer is a completely other thing. i haven't read anabolics 10th edition from a to z. i see it describes all the compounds which is good to know for anyone. and i don't know much about nasser other than the fact that remained on high dosages of gear even after he quit bodybuilding. and i didn't see anything wrong or that did not work well for me in gh15's pocket bible. it's a good read for anyone interested in more than "putting some weight on"

Sounds like a good plan; juice young and fuck up your hormone levels so that you can win a few junior lifting comps against a bunch of nattys (*slow clap*), never go off until you get injured or retire, and then just piss away your healthcare money on TRT for the rest of your life. Works great if you piss money. What if something happens and you lose your job? Or more likely, your parents stop giving you money for your roids? Or god forbid you get arrested and imprisoned for buying juice, or something else for that matter? You're fucked, that's what happens.

You're right, some of the big name bodybuilders and powerlifters started juicing at very young ages and never came off until their career came to a close. While their career was in its peak it worked out great for them, afterwards, not so much. Even just on the surface they look like total shit once they can't work at that same caliber anymore, but that's not even the bad side effects. These guys can face serious depression, infertility, lifelong irreversible lethargy, serious cardiac and liver malfunction, etc., etc. once they can't juice any more. All of which could have been avoided by waiting to juice until they were of a proper age.

You're going to do what you're going to do and nothing anyone can say can stop you, that's how young guys are (I would know, I am one). You've got to find out from experience how things work. If everything goes according to your plans, you have the potential to be alright for the foreseeable future. But if you haven't learned by now that life doesn't give a shit about you pristine plans, you will soon.