I had cancer. Please read.

[pimparealwoman]

..I'm sorry to hear you had such a serious illness, and i'm glad you've recovered well...

I think instead of being so focused on trying to find the exact cause, there is something more important to learn here for you. Maybe next time if your body gives you such alarming signals that something is wrong you might not want to treat the signals,..but listen to what your body has to say and stop injecting more of the cause immediately..If you have a fever, an numb lip an intense earpain along with a respitory infection...erm, that could be a clue that something is not quiet right...regardless of what anybody on a forum says..common sense should say that's not normal, so why would you take more??.. Instead why not look for a compound that works better with you..or lower to a more respectable dose...or if you have these reactions with every steroid..then clearly steroids is not for you...

Like I said, I'm really sorry to hear what happened to you, and don't try to trivialise it in any way, shape or form..but at the same time, there is also something called personal accountability..as in, nobody held you on gunpoint when you where taking more of the stuff that made you that ill..

Maybe from here onwards, listen to your body..it will tell you the story... Thank you for sharing your story here, hopefully it will prevent something similar happening to someone else..

Just my 2 pennies worth..

B!

 

[Tatyana]

I think this would be a fantastic opportunity for everyone to learn more about cancer and early warning signs.

As it was mentioned, cancer is not one disease, it is actually an umbrella term for hundreds of different disease, it depends on the cell type that loses control of it's cell cycle and starts to divide in an uncontrolled manner.

Except for T-cell lymphoma, as that is when the T-cells do not die off via apoptosis after an infection, but there are some new and very effective treatments.

Some cancers are very fast, and a lot of the acute leukaemias and lymphomas are examples of this. They are one of the, erm 6 types of white blood cells, and not only that, they are one of these types of cells at the various stage of development of the cells.

Chronic leukaemias are different.

Pancreatic and kidney cancer (renal cell/clear cell carcinoma), have no warning symptoms until it is too late most of the time. This is one of those 'dead in 4 months' types of cancers.

You can have some cancers for 20 years, for example myeloma, which is also a white cell cancer, but a mature B-cell lymphocyte that is never released from the bone marrow.

Carcinoid tumours, or tumours of the neuroendocrine tissue that often lines your digestive and respiratory system is another cancer you can have for a decade.

Our bodies actually have hundreds of 'cancer' cells arise every day, but Natural killer and cytotoxic T cells kill them off.

All it takes is for one foreign substance or some analogue that fits a cell receptor, one growth factor like IGF-1 or GH to bind to the receptor of a tumour cell and it could get out of control.

I know most people are terrified of cancer so whenever they hear a possible scenario that may affect them, they often go into denial.

While cancer may be classified as a genetic disease, it is often some environmental factor that triggers the cells to grow uncontrollably

Just be safe lads.

 

[rediculus]

Melanoma (spelling)I agree with Tat..I ride motorcycles and I can say OH man that guy really should have been looking out better for that car or I can say...I need to remember there are cars out there aiming for me and make sure I take precautions. Glad to hear your gtg bro

 

[Invicta1]

Just out of curiosity, but what type of NHL did you have? Was it indolent or more aggressive (i.e. follicular v. large-B cell).

 

[LoneTree]

I am very sorry to hear about your NHL, but it is good that you are in remission. Chemotherapy has advanced tremendously during last few years, and hopefully, everything will turn out right for you.
I don't intend to use any thing other than HG ever in my life. Fortunately, I have access to cheap HG stuff.

 

[Juicin]

Glad that you are healthy now.

Testosterone and other steroids are carcinogens.

Test itself activates transcription factors in the DNA in muscle cells which tell them to retain more nitrogen, among other ways, etc which cause the muscle to grow
Since cancer itself is unregulated cell growth, its not hard to imagine a cell mutating and growing indefinitely with additional testosterone causing the growth

Steroids are a risk that obviously people here are willing to take.
I think its important to think about that.

 

[Invicta1]

I'm not sure I'd directly link test to the dysfunction of proto-oncogenes and tumor suppressor genes responsible for the development of clonality in NHL, but test can definitely cause immunosuppression which is a risk factor for NHL as are viral infections...

 

[needtogetaas]

It can happen. Its a risk you have to think about.

 

[Big_Joe]

Re: I had cancer. Please read. -- So did I

I also had cancer. I had Large B cell Lymphoma. I did not start doing roids until after the cancer, and I tell you they saved my life.

It's real easy to say I have some life threating disease and I got it because of X. This is like Lyle Alzado saying he got brain cancer from roids. He didn't but when you are that close to death there is a very strong desire to say the reason is <insert what ever you want here>. This is just human nature. In this case you did something that deep down inside you feel is bad. So you blame the little bad thing you did in you're life as the cause of the big bad thing ( and having had cancer I understand it's a big bad thing.)

I'm glad for you getting this far with a the disease. But there's an interesting thing about roids and lymphoma. There is a group of people that have a genetic abnormality that gives them a naturally lower level of testosterone. These people have Klinefelters syndrome. These poor folks have four times the rate of lymphoma as the normal population. ( study was done in the UK ) So having done roids probably delayed your cancer not caused it.

Myself I don't have Klienfelters but I did have low testosterone and diabetes. It's hard to say if I had low testosterone or diabetes before the cancer as I never was tested for it because I didn't have any of the risk factors. The only reason they checked for it was while on chemo I had to get up every two hours to pee and they found out I had diabetes.

Current research in both diabetes and lymphoma link low levels of testosterone to both diseases.

Now my doctor wouldn't give me trt. He said he didn't want to lose his license and I don't blame him. Because I have had cancer they look at it as I am at risk for all types of cancer. So it's no TRT because I might get Prostate cancer, yea I know it's stupid but just blame it on the lawyers. So I worked up my own TRT plan. I have had a lot of education in medicine as well as being fairly auto didactic. I did have a license( I let it lapse) to practice medicine but I'm not an MD. So I made a deal with my doctor. I told him not to ask me questions that would put him in a bind and I wouldn't put him in any ethical dilemmas. This situation has worked well for the last few years or so. But I did have to prove to him that I knew my stuff. Now when I see him ( the chemo gave me a chronic condition that I needs drugs for) he basically asks me what I want to do and then we do it. I appreciate this a lot because he is trusting me with his career.

So for you your doctor will probably not give you TRT either but I would get some blood work done and see if your test levels are low. If they are it's up to you but I would put myself on some sort of TRT ASAP. And I would be in the gym as much as possible. Today I am doing a lot of other things then just lifting. I do a lot of Aikido and other martial arts as well as lift. Don't stop training!! I really like Aikido for my cardio. You get thrown down to the mat then jump up and get thrown down again. Then you do the throwing. It's you're whole body up, down, up, down. Over and over again.

And for myself I don't like saying that my cancer is in remission. I say I kicked it's ass.

 

[chicagobuffedbod]

I'm not trying to blame anything and I don't think taking steroids is bad. I wasn't saying that steroid use was bad. I was concerned about the quality of the steroids injected. I was inferring that there might have been impurities that lead to my condition. Not the simple act of taking steroids themselves. I simply related my steroid use to my fevers which eventually landed me into the hospital because after I injected I felt miserable. If it had to do with something else or nothing at all that would be fine. It's natural to want answers after surviving the mysterious reasons as to why a disease ravages you physically, financially, emotionally...etc... But I don't consider myself a blamer. I would just like to know why.
I want to do steroids again. I haven't done them in 10 months. I really liked the way I looked and felt. I'm scared to do them again and for how things unfolded (as described in my post here) I'm sure you can all understand why.