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I got Cancer again.

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GaryWary

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I haven't a clue why I am telling you guys this. In an hour I spend some time with real as opposed to virtual friends (not that I have made any feal friends from this board - but you know what I mean).

Today I discovered that I have bladder cancer again - the last time was 1998. Two tumours this time. I am 32 with a cancer that normally doesn't affect men until they are 60+. I have been told that I may lose my bladder and have to wear a bag. That is inconvenient for bodybuilding isn't it? I also have to wait for kidney check up - since bladder cancer and kidney cancer are closely related (same cells).

The events of tuesday - i.e. the NY WTC - put my problems in perspective.. but I am very upset. Numb.

That is all I have to say.

I stop my cycle today. I have consumed 50g of protein today. For those interested: net gain 28lbs in 10 weeks.
 
Very sorry to hear that Gary. Hope everything works out for the best. Sounds like you know what to expect, but still wish you didn't have to deal with it.

Condolences,
Scotsman
 
Bro...sorry to hear about that..have had many dealings with CA in my lifetime, none personally but through family and loved ones...my prayers go out to you bro..good luck
 
Our prayers are with you bro.

And no the WTC did not put you problems in perspective. It is still just as hard for you and you still have to deal with the pain.

God Bless
 
Sorry to hear that----this week is depressing with all the crap that happened in NY and last night my ex-girlfriend gave birth to our child but our decision was to give up that child to a pair of christian parents so that is what happened--my prayers will be with you and pray for me also---good luck bud
 
damn.... that sucks gary.. i wish you the best of luck in your treatment and recovery.. and i hope the kidney tests come back negative.


gary.. while some may find it inappropriate.. i find it to be the perfect time to ask you this..

taking your aas use into perspective.. do you feel as though you can directly attribute the contraction/development of said cancer and the rebound of it as well, to your aas use? also, if so, and if you were able to, would you change anything about the way you used aas or anything about your past if you could go back in time?

i'm seriously starting to think that all this may not be worth it.. i personally have had chest pain the past day now.. and am currently getting evaluated for heart issues after only being on a cycle for 2 weeks... i have also seen one or two more bros in the past week that have had serious health issues come up while on a cycle...

i don't know man.. i'm seriously disheartened at this point. i'm thinking i should have taken up damn triathlons instead of bb.

any thoughts or advice you could give regarding health issues and aas use would be appreciated and respected.
 
decem said:
taking your aas use into perspective.. do you feel as though you can directly attribute the contraction/development of said cancer and the rebound of it as well, to your aas use? also, if so, and if you were able to, would you change anything about the way you used aas or anything about your past if you could go back in time?
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Thankyou everyone. i am reading the replies. It is nice to feel the support - even if I know none of you. Kind of like a confessional.

Decem: I don't believe for a second that AAS caused my cancer.

It is believed that I have a genetic pre-disposition.

I would however guess that my liberal cannabis use (mixed with tobacco) has not helped. I will not be smoking anymore. Actually, I am having my final joint now.. stupid yes, but it is my last one. I may occassionally make a hash cake.. I got to look after myself now. I bought loads of anti-oxidants today - vit c, etc..

However, can I just ask that you guys keep your cycles short and don't go stupid with the doses. Some of you guys are too hardcore I feel. It concerns me.

Laterz
 
Best wishes to you. I went through testicular cancer myself last year. Wasn't fun. Stay strong...
 
Best wishes from me also Gary...I know I speak for all of the regulars here when I say anytime you want to talk or just vent about things- we'll be here to listen and lend whatever support we can give you. I am personally no stranger to health problems and know I have many more to deal with in the future whether I'm aware now or not- hang in there, we're thinking about you.
 
Sorry to hear of your trouble Gary. Best wishes for a speddy and complete recovery. Don't give up on the iron bro! Stayin in shape will hep your body fight this thing and recover.

All the best,
 
this has truly been a saddening week....

Gary...I'm new to the board....but my prayers are with you. I think your admonishment ought to be heeded. I wish you the very best.
 
Oh man, I feel for you bro.
I wish I knew something to say that would make you feel better.
But I don't.
All I can say is that I hope and pray that you'll be okay for the rest of your life.
I hope the best for you and your family.
 
This is horrible news. Like you said, we don't know each other, but you have made such great contributions to this board and I really can't think of a better inositol supporter than you. I am sorry for this bad news, and I hope you can recover from this in a way that will allow you to continue with your life as you have known it.

Btw, have you looked into the anti-cancer properties of calcium d-glucarate? Maybe that can help.

But most importantly, get better.

tx
 
Gary, reading your post is the kind of thing that can bring a lot of us tears. I wish you the best, man. My family has been hampered by major health concerns and wheelchairs at ages much too young, I feel all of your pain. I know we don't know each other, but it never mattered to me when I didn't know someone in the hospital (visiting a relative) and gave them a smile and wished them the best... it always makes someone's day. Be well, and let us know how things go. This board is full of people who care... we really do.

-B
 
Look into COX-2 inhibitors to help with whatever other treatment you get. There is a lot of info that links the enzyme to cancer proliferation. Vioxx and Celebrex are examples of these COX-2 inhibitors. Email me if you have any questions or anything.

Hope this turns out ok for you bro.
 
Very sorry to here your news mate.

Like you said though, the events on Tuesday showed us all how precious and fragile life is and that we need to live our own lives to the fullest as we never know when it may be taken from us.

Peace mate
 
GAry;
I am so sorry to here of your problems! I wish you and your family the quickest of recovery and the ease of mind that I know you and your family are looking for. You know that you are always welcomed to post and talk about your personal cancer problem at anytime on this board...I do not belive that any mod would ever move it....

My prayers are with you...:bawling: :angel:
 
In agreement with "nautica" and speaking as a person living in the heart of New York City, your problems are as real and difficult as ours are right now. I'm sorry to hear that you have to deal with this, Gary. Please know our thoughts are with you.

Zippy
 
Damn Gary sorry to hear that man, I hope everything works out for you bro. All this means is that your going to have to live a lilttle different, but the important part is that your going to live.

Good Luck and best of wishes to you and your family.
 
Gary, I am very sorry to hear that, be strong and good luck bro.

Keep us posted on whats going on.
 
Fuck, I don't know what to say. Sorry? Wish you a speedy recover? Of course it's true but there's really nothing I can say to help wish as I do that there were. Please don't forget about the board as we are all still very interested in your contributions and would definitely like to hear if everything turns out alright for you. Again, I'm sorry and I do hope that you end up just fine with no scars or any signs of having ever had to go through this.
 
I can say, sorry to hear..or something like that, but i think you heard this line enough now.I'm very sure Gary, if you fight the cancer with the same will and the same strength as a bodybuilder does when he is trying to achieve his goals,you will succeed in destroying this disease.Good luck bro, keep us informed about your HEALING,ok!:)
 
Man i feel for u bro. You are truly one of the coolest bros on this forum. When i came to you with my depression and anxiety attacks, you attentively listened to my problems and recommended inositol which worked great. You were there for me in my time of my need and im just here to tell u that im here for u for whatever u may need. Counseling, advice , or just someone to talk to. Im all ears bro. I just wanna say that God has a divine plan and he knows what hes doing.....let tome pass and youll see the light at the end of the tunnel.
 
Keep your head up bro,

Everything happens for a reason. This might just be a Test.

Just stay up and Conquer that shit like a man.

stay positive, peace.
 
Damn Gary, sorry to hear of your troubles. I wish you all the best bro!
 
Thanks everyone..

I feel better now..

Have been with friends.. phoned family.. and read your posts.

It isn't inevitable that I will lose anything (bladder). At least not yet. These are not likely to have damaged and proceeded beyond the bladder wall.

Removal of tumours this time.. With a clean diet, no smoking weed/tobacco, and plenty of weight-training.. alas no more steroids... at least for a while... and the next cycle (if I do one) will be very small - no more than 5 weeks. Even extremes like drinking 6pts milk a day - I shall stop.. my body is going to start getting a lot of extra veggies and fruit.

Doctor said that bladder removal is inevitable: Could be 2 years time, could be 10 or 20... I am going to make it 20. Or at least try.. may get it to not come back at all.... I am not going to let it win. And besides, as contrived as it sounds.. people are more damaged and hurt from Tuesday.. some people have to deal with Leukemia (the worst cancer of all)..

I am going to be ok..

No more anger. Much less stress.. I am going to make me a few adjustments in my lifestyle... I have not always been a freind to my body.. although this is most likely genetic.. I can influence the outcome.

Thanks to you all.

I only came for one post - to score me some 'supplements'. I ended up getting sucked in.... funny fucking place - EF. Some people watch Eastenders.. I chat to fellow bodybuilders on EF.. and look at the wonderful pictures on pictures of women.. I don't talk to anyone in my gym!... no one talks there... but then again, nor do I.. I just train. Haven't been there long though..

Anyway, rambling. I have had me last joint. Now gonna get some food and sleep.

Laterz
 
Fuck it...

I am going cycling tomorrow! Gonna take me a few weeks off work.

Thanks again for the kind words..

I will still train.

If it gets me - it gets me..
 
GaryWary said:
Fuck it...

I am going cycling tomorrow! Gonna take me a few weeks off work.

Thanks again for the kind words..

I will still train.

If it gets me - it gets me..
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I must say, I admire your carpe diem attitude. It took a major tragedy in my life to give me that. Now I live life on my own terms as much as possible. I enjoy and savor more than I ever have.

Again, nothing but good wishes from me, and everybody here at EF.

As for being sucked in, I know what you mean. I didn't even come here to score some supps. I was just a lurker, and -bam- now look at me, lol.
 
Gary,


My friend I'm so sorry to hear this but from what little bit I have chatted with you I can tell you are far from a quitter and you will pull through this..Just know we all are your friends here and are in our prayers....

Regards

m.o.d
 
What the fuck! My favourite cockney wanker! :D

I was hoping like hell it was another one of your stupid thread titles but unfortunately not :(

I dont know what to say pal, you are still young and strong and I am sure your body can fight it off. What the fuck is going on in the world?

I know you dont know me mate but I always like to read your posts and I am truly saddened.

All I can do is wish you the very best and hope you get better, Im crap with words mate but I'm sure you get the point.

Best wishes

UglyASS
 
Gary, be strong and everything else around will seem weak.

Should you ever need anything im in London.

I wish you all the best. I recently lost a good friend to MS but she died of heart failure. Cherrish what you have while you have it and show your loved ones how much they mean.
 
notpuff said:
gary my thoughts and prayers are with you but i have one question what did your cycle consist of?
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In total: 200 dbol. 30 winny 5mg. 12 sustanon 250. 4 test enan 250. 60 proviron. 20 clomid. 10 nolvadex. I will still begin clomid therapy in 2 weeks time. Also: At least 2 ounces of cannabis and 3 packs of tobacco.....

Don't blame the AS. The tobacco/cannabis is far more likely to have influenced things. I believe I now have the culprit for my persistant tiredness however.. got really tired last time I had cancer.

I am going to be ok..

I wish to continue bodybuilding. And shagging! And enjoying things..

Ultimately people do die from bladder/kidney cancer.. My whole urinary tract is apparently at risk.. that even includes my willy for fuck sake. But what is the point of thinking about worse case scenarios? The best case scenario is that I keep a further attack away and that I get through my kidney check up and through the operation and that the tumours are not found to be invasive.

Thanks to all the great things you have all said.

Sorry for rambling on...
 
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GaryWary said:

Sorry for rambling on...
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Ramble as much and as often as you like. There aren't enough 'good' posters on this board, and you are certainly one of them.

But please keep us posted on your progress. And that includes the 'shagging' parts, lol. :)
 
Look into all options of treatment adjuvent and other options that are unproven, but when combined could yield results. Also, you might want to look into Rational Theraputics, a cancer center that will do chemo sensitivity testing. There are many options that might help. Interlukin-2, anything to get cytotoxic T cells to attack the tumor cells. Lots of things..........
 
Gary,

im very sorry to hear about your bad luck.
But dont let this shit get you down mate, your still young and got allot ahead of you

stay strong
 
sorry about that bro, everyone in this world goes through somehting in their life or some bullshit....keep your head up
 
Bro,
That is a terrible thing. But, just remember, everyone here wishes you a speedy recovery and wish you the best of luck.

Good luck and great fortune!!!
 
Sorry to hear about the news. Just remember that life is just one big test of our faith and our will to live. Use that same determination that has led you in your pursuit of building a better physique and incorporate that into climbing this new mountain in your life that you must face. You will beat this and you will become a better man for it. Adversity in our lives divides us all into two groups of people. It divides us into those who will face life's challenges with nothing but the thirst of victory in our hearts to succeed and conquer that which is ours, life, so that we might become stronger mentally and physically with every passing day and every challenge met. It divides everyone else into a life of content where they settle for what they have because their fear of the unknown and of adversity keeps them hidden from the greatest joys in life. You can not find joy if you have not found pain my friend, because to suffer and to live through the hardest and most trying of times means that you will look upon everything in your life in a new view, and you will appreciate the things that others, who have not see your pain, can not appreciate because they have no base for comparison. You have friends here my friend, because we are all from a different mold and we must stick together. You are going to be fine no matter what the outcome of this is my brother, because that is the type of man you are. If you would ever like to talk to anyone, feel free to write me at my email address in my profile. Good luck my friend, and our prayers are with you.

Padlock
 
I am relaxed... I am having time off work.. I have read about alternative ways of treating cancer in young people.... I think that I can get more effective treatment. I shall ask/suggest...

Thanks for everything you have all said.

But dudes.. no worries.. the worst case scenario is loss of bladder. The cancer is too small to be life threatening - so I am lucky (1 in 5 cancer deaths is bladder cancer).. haven't had kidney results back yet - but have no reason to believe that they are going to infected (I have had no pain).

From what I have read - if I have check-ups every 4 months.. and maybe even chemo every 3 months - I could fend off cancer recurrence for many years. The goal is to fend it off indefinately.

My diet is suddenly very clean! No more joints - so I guess I am going to have a very clear head. Got my operation in 3 weeks.. scared of ops.. but again thinking about tuesday 'slaps me' for thinking like a baby.

I shall still be a visitor to the board - but not much over the coming weeks - I got bike riding and looking for a new job to do (decided that I need a change from university researcher...)

It aint going to get the better of me... I am on its case.

But all of your words have really helped.

Sorry for using the anabolic discussion space.
 
When I read some stuff I scare the shit out of myself...

But hey, Radical cystectomy is not due me - and hopefully never will be.

Shit - now I am letting on that secretly I am a bit scared.

I aint gonna post in this thread anymore.. just wanted to reveal that I am ok, happy that I can be ok.. but occassionally terrified when I read stuff that gets me thinking......


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Surgery is a common treatment for bladder cancer. The type of surgery depends largely on the stage and grade of the tumor. The doctor can explain each type of surgery and discuss which is most suitable for the patient:
Transurethral resection: The doctor may treat early (superficial) bladder cancer with transurethral resection (TUR). During TUR, the doctor inserts a cystoscope into the bladder through the urethra. The doctor then uses a tool with a small wire loop on the end to remove the cancer and to burn away any remaining cancer cells with an electric current. (This is called fulguration.) The patient may need to be in the hospital and may need anesthesia. After TUR, patients may also have chemotherapy or biological therapy.

Radical cystectomy: For invasive bladder cancer, the most common type of surgery is radical cystectomy. The doctor also chooses this type of surgery when superficial cancer involves a large part of the bladder. Radical cystectomy is the removal of the entire bladder, the nearby lymph nodes, part of the urethra, and the nearby organs that may contain cancer cells. In men, the nearby organs that are removed are the prostate, seminal vesicles, and part of the vas deferens. In women, the uterus, ovaries, fallopian tubes, and part of the vagina are removed.

Segmental cystectomy: In some cases, the doctor may remove only part of the bladder in a procedure called segmental cystectomy. The doctor chooses this type of surgery when a patient has a low-grade cancer that has invaded the bladder wall in just one area.
 
In this situation it is really hard, I know because my uncle is in the same boat. If you need any help bro just let me know
 
My god Gary, there are no words for it

what can one say? I don't know. There is no way we can help you.
Just hoping everything turns out right for you.
 
Not scared again... now finding the less scary and more positive stuff to read:

Milk, Vitamin A, andVitamin D are thought to reduce the risk of bladder cancer by one-half. Early detection of new bladder cancer, and prompt treatment, will reduce death from this disease.

Bladder Cancer occurs in many different forms and it's proper treatment can be confusing for both the doctor and patient. While removal of the bladder was the historic treatment for any bladder tumor invading muscle, today new treatment options most often allow the bladder to be saved, with no decrease in patient survival.

Anyway, I return the discussion to roids...................

It is nice to see concern and brotherhood amongst people that really don't know each other...
 
g.w

i can relate to your problem, as back in 1981 i also had 2 tumors removed from my bladder, worst case scenario was this: loss of bladder, prostate, and testicles. i got lucky bro, i only lost the dome of my bladder. i have a checkup once a year still, and ive been clean every time so far. my prayers are with you, and i wish you the best, if i can help you in any way, drop me a line.



peace bb79
 
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