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C-Lo34

C-Lo34

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Ok, so my coach is putting me on strictly hydrolized whey post workout. He says it the only protein that absorbs quick enough to avoid muscle breakdown following training.

What are your favorite brands and is there anywhere selling bulk? 5-10lbs?? And anyone notice a difference using it compared to normal isolate?
 
Try truenutrition.com dude. You can make your protein hell you could get 50 lbs of it there. I've never used that type of protein, however.

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Real hydrolyzed protein is rarer than you think. Most of it is whey concentrate with a little hydrolyzed. The reason being...it is inedible. Protein factory has it but you'll to cut it with something. Seriously, it's incredibly bitter. But it is an outstanding source of aminos. You best bet is to get some GEAR. It contains pure hydrolyzed protein as well as super plasma serum which is recognized instantly as muscle tissue once it's in the bloodstream.
 
semper03 said:
This I did not know.
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Yep. ANd the fact that's it's capsules there's no concern with taste. That's why we could use the pure form of hydrolyzed aminos. Also, the fractioned protein allows for more dispersement making each gram far more bioavailable.

Seriously, these days just get the protein powder that tastes the best to you and then just add GEAR and you'll get the highest grade of protein possible.
 
C-Lo34 said:
Ok, so my coach is putting me on strictly hydrolized whey post workout. He says it the only protein that absorbs quick enough to avoid muscle breakdown following training.

What are your favorite brands and is there anywhere selling bulk? 5-10lbs?? And anyone notice a difference using it compared to normal isolate?
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He's wrong. What is it a 5 minute difference between absorption rate compared to other wheys? There isn't enough difference to make any difference in your progress whatsoever.
 
Jack steel said:
He's wrong. What is it a 5 minute difference between absorption rate compared to other wheys? There isn't enough difference to make any difference in your progress whatsoever.
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I would agree with this as well. It sounds like your coach may be over thinking it and making it out to be a bigger deal than it is. I'd just get a good WPI and call it a day
 
Sorry to hijack this thread. I'm normally against it but my question doesn't need it's own thread.

I just had a dream about some PB&J protein powder. Do they make this anywhere????

I pulled my second 12 hour double last night in three days so my mind was really out of it lol
 
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It isn't a matter of just being absorbed faster. The longer the digestion process, the less protein you actually wind up getting. Since hydrolyzed goes straight to the intestines, you get more available aminos. Super plasma serum is even faster -- in the bloodstream within minutes.
 
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biesel13 said:
I use Pepto pro mixed in with vitargo S2 post workout. Works great and tastes great.
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Pepto pro is good stuff. Less bitter but still doesn't taste great. Vitargo is simples carbs, which means it's essentially just sugar -- good if you're bulking, otherwise best to be avoided.
 
My next bag is gonna be PF growth formula protein in cookies N cream

30% Oat Muscle
20% Rilose
20% CFM Whey Isolate
15% IPI Protein
10% Sunflower Oil
5% Monster V Plasma Protein
 
What's the link to buy the GEAR caps? I'll give those a shot! Thanks everybody for the posts

and I'm working with George Farrah the pro maker, he isn't wrong about much.
 
ON uses PART hydrolized and mostly whey concentrate, which is an inferior form of whey. Not bad for the price though.
 
True Nutrition is pretty good. I picked up a 5 lb bag of Dante's Choice mocha java just yesterday from their office in Vista, CA.
 
burnthiscorpse said:
If you can afford it bro just get some super plasma protein from PF and cap it. its 5g per tsp. But 20-25 g will make any shake taste like shit. its pretty grainy but its SPP so its the best. PF is cheaper than anyone else for SPP I have found.
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You talking about the super bovine plasma?
 
burnthiscorpse said:
If you can afford it bro just get some super plasma protein from PF and cap it. its 5g per tsp. But 20-25 g will make any shake taste like shit. its pretty grainy but its SPP so its the best. PF is cheaper than anyone else for SPP I have found.
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Why not just add 5g mixed in a shake with some other protein and let the spp help maximize the benefot of tje rest of the protein?

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burnthiscorpse said:
If you can afford it bro just get some super plasma protein from PF and cap it. its 5g per tsp. But 20-25 g will make any shake taste like shit. its pretty grainy but its SPP so its the best. PF is cheaper than anyone else for SPP I have found.
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Their website says it has been discontinued.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Just use any shake and take 4-5 GEAR caps and you'll get an awesome nitrogen boost.
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I don't use much in the way of protein powder - rarely make shakes and only use the protein a part of cooking.

For someone like me how would you recommend dosing Gear to get the maximum benefit?
 
C-Lo34 said:
Ok, so my coach is putting me on strictly hydrolized whey post workout. He says it the only protein that absorbs quick enough to avoid muscle breakdown following training.

What are your favorite brands and is there anywhere selling bulk? 5-10lbs?? And anyone notice a difference using it compared to normal isolate?
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Your coach doesn't know what he's talking about....
There is no evidence that hydrolyzed proteins are any better then non hydrolyzed proteins for protein synthesis or body composition
 
gjohnson5 said:
Your coach doesn't know what he's talking about....
There is no evidence that hydrolyzed proteins are any better then non hydrolyzed proteins for protein synthesis or body composition
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I appreciate the input. However he's one if not the best coach in the world. With 100s of not only national level competitors but also Ifbb pros under his belt I believe he knows what he is talking about. And there has been evidence of the breakdown absorption rates, if there weren't why would anyone but the more expensive hydro whey? I was just asking for a good place to buy it cheap in bulk. I'll listen to the Pro Maker about my supplement list before anyone else. Again thanks for taking time to give ur opinion
 
The real question is how much of a difference there is. I can spend 100's to 1000's of dollars a year more on more specialized forms of protein. Is the difference a lb or 2 in a 6 month to 1 year period or is it closer to a lb 30 to 45 days. I know it will vary for ever person but for me that has always been the question. Marginal benefit vs Marginal Cost.

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thewhiz7 said:
The real question is how much of a difference there is. I can spend 100's to 1000's of dollars a year more on more specialized forms of protein. Is the difference a lb or 2 in a 6 month to 1 year period or is it closer to a lb 30 to 45 days. I know it will vary for ever person but for me that has always been the question. Marginal benefit vs Marginal Cost.

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That's not the real question at all. First of all, it won;t cost hundreds of dollars more. Secondly, bodybuilders are always trying to do whatever it takes to build muscle. And the more muscle you build naturally, the more you'll hold onto. If you want to do it half assed, be my guest. But if something works, I'm going to use it. There are plenty of supplements you can avoid, but protein is essential and the better the protein, the better the potential muscle growth.
 
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Nelson Montana said:
That's not the real question at all. First of all, it won;t cost hundreds of dollars more. Secondly, bodybuilders are always trying to do whatever it takes to build muscle. And the more muscle you build naturally, the more you'll onto. If you want to do it half assed, be my guest. But if something works, I'm going to use it. There are plenty of supplements you can avoid, but protein is essential and the better the protein, the better the potential muscle growth.
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Agreed! Well said bro
 
thewhiz7 said:
The real question is how much of a difference there is. I can spend 100's to 1000's of dollars a year more on more specialized forms of protein. Is the difference a lb or 2 in a 6 month to 1 year period or is it closer to a lb 30 to 45 days. I know it will vary for ever person but for me that has always been the question. Marginal benefit vs Marginal Cost.

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Spending more money on more specialized protein forms really doesn't make a whole lot of sense since it has been proven that the only amino acid that controls protein sythesis is leucine.
Having said this protein really isn't needed. Layne Norton said the optimal lecine content per meal should be around 3.2 grams. If one were to eat meals and then add 3.2 grams of BCAA powder per meal, I don't believe you will see any difference at all.
 
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