transform said:For an overall routine that nails the whole chest:
Flat Bench or decline bench for sternal
InclineBench or incline flys for upper pecs
Dips or standing flys for pectoral minor
Something else for serratus anterior
transform said:For an overall routine that nails the whole chest:
Flat Bench or decline bench for sternal
InclineBench or incline flys for upper pecs
Dips or standing flys for pectoral minor
Something else for serratus anterior
I agree you should slap pullovers in there at the end, but looks good.transform said:I was actually wondering what people thought of a routine that incorporated those exercises.But point taken, so i was thinkin of flat bench for 4 sets,incline bench for 3 and dips for 2 to failure.Not sure yet, but i want to change up my chest routine in a week or so
wnt2bBeast said:pull over suck they dont do shit
you cannot isolate the upper/outer inner quarter part of your pec..
the pec contracts thats it..
honestly what do you think is going to cause more chest growth increasing your 5 RM by 50 lbs or doing some stupid pullover with a 60 lbs DB in 2 hands??
Lifting is so simple fellas stick with a compund move either flat or slight incline BB presses..you most likely are not at a low enough BF to see you serratus and if you are you need to eat otherwise you will not gain any muscle..let the juiced up Pro's worry about brinign out such a tiny muscle
wnt2bBeast said:pull over suck they dont do shit
you cannot isolate the upper/outer inner quarter part of your pec..
the pec contracts thats it..
honestly what do you think is going to cause more chest growth increasing your 5 RM by 50 lbs or doing some stupid pullover with a 60 lbs DB in 2 hands??
Lifting is so simple fellas stick with a compund move either flat or slight incline BB presses..you most likely are not at a low enough BF to see you serratus and if you are you need to eat otherwise you will not gain any muscle..let the juiced up Pro's worry about brinign out such a tiny muscle
musketeer said:Try doing it with a 60lb dumbell in EACH hand where you lie ACROSS the bench and you arch your back and have someone pushing your hips down, whilst lowering the bells to the floor and telll me that it doesn't blast your lats, pecs, serratus, triceps and abs!
Or you can do it with a 60lb in both hands lying along the bench and using a third the ROM and call it stupid.
wnt2bBeast said:thats still only 120lb load try getting your incline BB up to 315 for solid clean reps..that would be a better chest builder
i also dont need to stretch my rotator's inot a position like that..completely pointless
musketeer said:Your right, incline press with 315 is much better than pullover with 120 (if you only had to do ONE)
I do incline with 245 (for now)
pullover with 2 x 60 (as it happens)
and dips with +45
ALL in the same week and they are my chest mainstay. I have never considered the pullover as thregtening my RC but as you say it might then I will bear it in mind thanks (genuine when I say it). I really like the HEAVY CROSS bench pullover - otherwise I wouldn't reccomend it.
musketeer said:Hardrock,
with your avatar, you look like you could bench the earth!
Massive Chest Training.........................i found this info online.transform said:For an overall routine that nails the whole chest:
Flat Bench or decline bench for sternal
InclineBench or incline flys for upper pecs
Dips or standing flys for pectoral minor
Something else for serratus anterior
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