OK, I'm the moron... I trained for about 5-6 months before my first cycle. That's after about 26 years of never doing a thing. The problem with that is that muscles strengthen much more rapidly than tendons/ligaments do (especially on juice), so I started injuring one thing after another. It got to the point that the guys in my gym started using my name interchangably with injury ("hey, I pulled a saltlick"). That was about 6 years ago, and I've learned alot since then, so hopefully I'm done being stupid. Definitely make sure you have a solid, strong base and form down before you start, or you'll pull a saltlick too. Hope my stupidity helps someone.