Homosexuals... i have always wondered about something....

[Bullit]

You think so?

Going to church, singing some hymns, putting a dollar or two in the collection plate... that brings you closer to God?

Why?

Frankly, I feel closer to God when standing on a mountain and the view goes for miles and miles, or sitting on the beach and the ocean lapping around my feet, or just by going to the zoo and seeing up close the other creatures God has made.

Your journey to God is a spiritual one that comes from within. No one can lead you there. Get real. If that were possible, preachers would be charging by the bushel loads for their services.

I agree.
Never understood the whole church thang.

 

[AAP]

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Not sure what you mean. Whether it's a choice or not, gays generally don't repent, which is icky in the church's eyes.

Of course not... you only repent for sins. If I am born this way... whose sin is it? Let them go repent.

 

[the nature boy]

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no, but he used to be

seriously?

btw this whole thing with posts being out of order is as annoying as all the other crap related to this board.

 

[gymtime]

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Of course not... you only repent for sins. If I am born this way... whose sin is it? Let them go repent.

Agreed. I don't think it's inherently a sin either. But the church does. And that's why it's difficult for gays to be active in church, or remain Christians (especially Catholic), which was the point I was making.

 

[AAP]

You do your thing to be closer to God, I'll do mine. Do you donate to charity? I did, it was called Church.

What did your church do with your money? Whose pocket did it go in? Or was it just used to pay "bills". What good came from your money? Do you even know?

The Easter Bonnet Party I held on Palm Sunday (like every year) raised $9300 for a HIV shelter. That's right. Something I did, in my own home. And I know EXACTLY where the money went. Where is your money?

You can argue that because this money came from other people, this donation was as indirect as your own, but what do you donate specifically for your fellow man? Every month I pay $320 so my neighbor can afford to send her deaf son to a private learning facility and not an inadequate public school. Is your money meeting needs like this?

The problem with sharing your "journey within" with a group of church people is very simple. 99% of them believe that without a church you can't get to heaven.

Saying a church is in business to lead people to heaven is like saying McDonalds is in business to feed the world.

 

[FreeballinDC]

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i'm saying for this issue(homo's) is a sin pretty much like any other sin. but yet you live it daily being a homo, it is a life style, a choice, a choice they choose over god every day. do you love your sin more than god? you have the choice to sin or not to sin everyday, they choose sin every single day over god knowing their sinning. IMO

Being gay is a choice? Tell me, did you wake up one morning and make the choice to be straight?

Was it like, "I think I'll bang me some poon today, right after I eat my Cocoa Puffs and watch Alf"?

Think about it, you were hardwired to be straight from the beginning.

It's the same for gays.

 

[big_bad_buff]

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Actually, therein lies the fault.... who said it was a choice?

maybe it was gods choice for you to be destined for hell at birthI dont know man, what about born retards? what about people born with a dick and a pussy? what about people born with niether? people born psycho killers etc I have always wondered about this subject. i have heard many gays say it was and wasn't a choice. but most say they know it's a sin. it is a choice though. you choose to get out of bed everyday

 

[beastboy]

What did your church do with your money? Whose pocket did it go in? Or was it just used to pay "bills". What good came from your money? Do you even know?

The Easter Bonnet Party I held on Palm Sunday (like every year) raised $9300 for a HIV shelter. That's right. Something I did, in my own home. And I know EXACTLY where the money went. Where is your money?

You can argue that because this money came from other people, this donation was as indirect as your own, but what do you donate specifically for your fellow man? Every month I pay $320 so my neighbor can afford to send her deaf son to a private learning facility and not an inadequate public school. Is your money meeting needs like this?

The problem with sharing your "journey within" with a group of church people is very simple. 99% of them believe that without a church you can't get to heaven.

Saying a church is in business to lead people to heaven is like saying McDonalds is in business to feed the world.

Hardly my point....I didn't mean for this to turn into a "brag about what I have and do thread", which most of your posts turn into. What I was saying that I donate to my church...very optional. I know that money was going to pay bills...we met in a old school and sat in metal folding chairs....my father was the chairman and there were many times the church barley got by. So don't belittle me by acting like I am clueless.

Be proud you donate....good thing you threw a dollar figure in there too, because I think so much more of you now.

Meeting needs? Whose needs? Yours? Very likely that is what you are talking about.

You are being quite hypocritical. You expect people to accept homosexuality while remaining completely close-minded about christianity.

 

[AAP]

Hardly my point....I didn't mean for this to turn into a "brag about what I have and do thread", which most of your posts turn into. What I was saying that I donate to my church...very optional. I know that money was going to pay bills...we met in a old school and sat in metal folding chairs....my father was the chairman and there were many times the church barley got by. So don't belittle me by acting like I am clueless.

Be proud you donate....good thing you threw a dollar figure in there too, because I think so much more of you now.

Meeting needs? Whose needs? Yours? Very likely that is what you are talking about.

You are being quite hypocritical. You expect people to accept homosexuality while remaining completely close-minded about christianity.

hardly. so in your own words... your donation did nothing really but help - what?- the CHURCH scrape by. Your donation didn't really feed starving children or farm crops for Ethiopians? Your money stayed in the church. Ok... gotcha...... God would be so proud. Instead of helping out his creatures, you helped an inanimate object "the church". Ok.... now in reality, you guys could have met in each other's homes and saved a bunch of money to donate for other things.

Christianity is a choice. Homosexuality is not. Go blame God if you don't see it that way.

As far as the needs, you can re-read my posting and see I have gone out of my way directly and indirectly to meet the needs of others. Have you my good Christian Brother?

 

[bwood]

if youre from the south...

then you know that belonging
to the right church and following
the party line is an almost essential
prerequisite for being a successful businessman...

not that it means anything...