Help with breakfast

[solrosenberg]

1) I am doing 30 mins of incline treadmill in the morning on an empty stomach. Will this burn off muscle too ? I also do 30 mins after my weight training a few times per week too.

2) I drink a protein shake right after, but instead I want to have eggs and oats from reading some info on here. What the hell are oats ? And how do you cook them ? Is oatmeal the same thing ?

3) What's the deal with flax ? Where do I get them and how much do I take ?

Thanks in advance.

 

[keasbey]

if you can get somthing in your body when you wake up your better off. your body just woke up and has been eating your reserves stored up so taking a protein shake and a piece of fruit would be great to give it somthing thing to burn.
yeah oats are oatmeal. some get the more expensive kinda that are cut differently and have more of their carbs/protein/calories intact other just get the quaker stuff. the flax can be found in some grocery stores in the food isle... i think i saw it near the baking stuff. or you can get flax oil pills.. but then i think flax and fish oil are used for the same thing... (might be wrong here) i also hear that flax increases estrogen very slightly.

 

[WinstonChurchill]

Rather than training on an empty stomach, mix some L-Glutamine with water and drink that before your cardio, that will help prevent any possible catabolism (muscle breakdown) during the cardio.

Once this is done, then have breakfast. Oats at just simple porrige oats.

I wouldnt have the flax with my breakfast though personally. It will slow down the comsuption of the food and you want the exact opposite at this point in the day, you want to be sucking up the nutrients as fast as possible.

 

[solrosenberg]

if you can get somthing in your body when you wake up your better off. your body just woke up and has been eating your reserves stored up so taking a protein shake and a piece of fruit would be great to give it somthing thing to burn.
yeah oats are oatmeal. some get the more expensive kinda that are cut differently and have more of their carbs/protein/calories intact other just get the quaker stuff. the flax can be found in some grocery stores in the food isle... i think i saw it near the baking stuff. or you can get flax oil pills.. but then i think flax and fish oil are used for the same thing... (might be wrong here) i also hear that flax increases estrogen very slightly.

I want the cardio to burn off stored fat, not the protein shake and piece of fruit. But, I also don't want to burn off muscle either. I take 50 g of casein before bed, but not sure if this is still in my at 9 am while doing cardio. I heard somebody mention bcaa's first thing in the am prior to cardio. Thoughts ?

 

[Thandie]

I posted this on another thread, so I'm pasting it here rather then re-explaining it again.


Cardio and protein and carbs.

As far as fasted cardio - it matters how you execute it. Duration, intensity, pre and post nutrition, etc. In a muscle sparing sense, you want to be getting protein into you, post a fasted cardio session, otherwise you will lose muscle. But having CHO immediately after a cardio session is probably a bit of a waste as you were doing, as that would stop the fat burning process.
Yes - eating protein right after training or cardio stops catabolism, but allows fat burning to continue unabated. As soon as you add carbs, in a continuum sense, you slow down/stop fat usage and even create fat storage. The other side of the coin with carbs is that they ARE the anabolic factor, so after training, you should have some even when dieting.

I'd use very small amounts of carbs and BCAAs before morning cardio; small being 10-15 grams. And, not all cardio has to be in the a.m.; the benefits to that have some cons as well – such as losing muscle as I mentioned. I would never do high-intensity cardio in the morning.

If it’s in the afternoon, depends on the structure of the whole morning, but for 15-20 minutes of higher-intensity cardio, you won't need much food (since you would have had a meal or two already). Blood sugar/liver glycogen alone will keep you from crashing...BUT, I'd have a little something just prior in order to make sure you had that initial burst. If you had normal meals at 6:00 and 9:00, for example, and you were doing cardio at noon; at about 11:30 I'd have about 1/4 c of oats and 2 scoops of BCAAs or a rice cake, 1 tbsp PB and the BCAAs, then do the cardio, then eat a mostly-protein/fibrous vegetable lunch, then the next meal normal. That is, of course, if you're using the cardio as part of weight loss. If you're in the off-season, I'd go ahead and have a normal amount of carbs/starch at lunch but still keep the pre-cardio stuff the same.

I forgot to add. Once you have the protein immediately after cardio, you can have a regular meal containing protein and cho 1 1/2-2 hours later. I usually have it 1 to 1.5 hours later bc I'm very hungry in the morning. I don't feel satisfied till about my 4th meal.

I hope that helps..

 

[joe d]

I want the cardio to burn off stored fat, not the protein shake and piece of fruit. But, I also don't want to burn off muscle either. I take 50 g of casein before bed, but not sure if this is still in my at 9 am while doing cardio. I heard somebody mention bcaa's first thing in the am prior to cardio. Thoughts ?

thats not exactly how it works. the glutamine idea is good with some food a small amount simple carb and whey is good. like 10 g of each then wait about 15 mins. all cardio no matter how you do it will burn muscle anf fat. what you are trying to do is turn that 50/50 ratio to a 30/70 and thats about as good as it gets without a lot of drugs where then you can probably get a 85/15

 

[bigleemurali]

you can have some amino acids and glutamine or a protein shake with glutamine and start off your cardio...

If you look at post workout nutrition - you can take a complex carb with protein after your cardio alone sessions... But you need some simple sugar with protein after your weight training for better recovery....