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Help! Im lean but Ive got a gut!!!!!!

Candi Barr said:
This is from T-mag http://t-mag.com/html/25gof.html

Q: What it is, bros? How do I get my girlfriend to lose her gut? She
is pretty lean in the legs and arms, but is carrying around a little
pouch around the midsection. She runs three times a week for
about 40 minutes, works out with weights, and really eats pretty
well, yet doesn't lose anything around the lower abs. I don't get it.
I've had her on a thermo stack, which works pretty well for me, but
she gets nothing out of it. I really want her to have a flat stomach.
What can I do?

A: Much of what you're talking about and asking is stuff we get
asked here day in-day out. For starters, YOU can't get your
girlfriend to "lose her gut;" if she's going to lose weight/fat, it
should be because SHE wants to. You say your girlfriend is generally
lean but has a "little pouch" around the mid-section. This is a good
opportunity to discuss the role of genetics and how they really
come into play regarding what a woman looks like. We're not talking
about genetics related to muscle, fat, or innervation. We're talking
about genetics as it relates to skeletal anatomy. Get ready for
some deep stuff to follow.

Let's talk about the pelvis (as it relates to women). In general, the
pelvis consists of four bones (paired innominate bones, coccyx, and
the sacrum) held together by ligaments. The size and shape of
these bones have a tremendous impact on how a woman looks
physically. Medically speaking, pelvic shape is classified using
something called the "Caldwell-Moloy" system. There are four "pure"
pelvic shapes in this system—gynecoid, android, anthropoid, and
platypelloid.

The gynecoid pelvis (sometimes called a "true female pelvis") is
found in about 50% of the women in America. It is the "classic" form
that we associate with women and has an anteroposterior diameter
just slightly less than the transverse diameter. Lucy Lawless of
Xena, Warrior Princess fame has a classic gynecoid pelvis. Women
like this tend to look…like women. They are shapely and curvy.
They tend to hold fat around the thighs more so than the mid-riff.
They can have a flat stomach without really dropping body fat
levels low enough to cause some "female problems."

The android pelvis (sometimes called a "true make pelvis") is found
in about 20% of American women. Women who happen to have
such a pelvis tend to have "flat rear ends." Many of the truly
"waifish women" we see so prominently in modeling today have this
type of pelvis. It's not necessarily a good thing for a woman to
have such a pelvic shape, as most of these women will end up
having a Cesarean Section if they want to have children. Women
with this shape of pelvis have virtually no real difficulty in achieving
a flat stomach—no more than the "average male"—because their
pelvises are shaped like an average male.

The anthropoid pelvis is very long and almost "ovoid" in shape. It is
more common in non-white females (it makes up about 25% of
pelvic type in white women and close to 50% in non-white women).
Women who have such a pelvis shape tend to have "larger rear
ends" and may carry a lot of adipose tissue/weight in the buttocks
as well as in the abdomen. These women can have a flat stomach
with some real effort (they may have to drop body fat levels down
a bit lower than women with the other two aforementioned pelvis
types, but it's "doable").

The platypelloid pelvis is very short (almost like a "flattened
gynecoid shape"). Only about 3% of women have a true and pure
pelvis of this type. Women having a platypelloid pelvis tend to carry
a lot of weight in the lower abdomen. It's very difficult for these
women to have really flat abdomens without getting body fat levels
down into the single digits.

So what does all this have to do with having a gut? Plenty!!! Most
women are a mixture of pelvic types. Classifying types requires
some tricky measurements that we don't need to get into here. But
some women have a platypelloid pelvis type (or the lesser evil, an
anthropoid pelvis type) so no matter what they do short of really
getting lean (like 8-9% BF), they're still going to end up with a little
bulge, or "pouch," in the abdomen. Read that sentence again.
We've all seen plenty of women like this at the gym: the woman
with the narrow shoulders and wide hips who has skinny legs and
arms; heck, you can see her ribs, but she has that little bulge in
the gut that never goes away. Not much can be done about this
(it's a bone structure thing, guys). This is not an excuse for some
women to be fat, however (you said your lady friend ate well and
got plenty of exercise). If you're girlfriend/wife is below 12-13% BF
and still has a "pouch," then suffice it to say she is always going to
have a "pouch." Deal with it. Not every woman can look like Kate
Moss.

A lot of men place an undo amount of pressure on women to be
concentration-camp thin, which is not a good thing physically or
psychologically. It's not healthy when women dip too low in
BF—they end up losing bone mass as well as skipping periods (that's
enough to make most men very nervous). And besides, it's doubtful
that most women can safely keep such low body fat levels year
round. Look, we don't dig fat chicks or "fatness" in general, but it's
time to look at bone structure and genetics to determine just how
"flat" that stomach of your woman can really be. If any women
have any comments, we're all ears. Sorry if this is not the exact
answer you were looking for.




Great Post...
 
Wow, great thread!

I'm still trying to figure this out though. I've got a similar problem to woof, I've got the protruding area below my belly button as well, same thing, you'd think I was a few months pregnant, it sucks! I've got a six pack when I flex but below my belly button it sticks out, but yet it is VERY solid, I mean you really can't pinch anything (my OB/GYN doctor even commented on it once). Then if I suck my gut in, I can flatten it out but then it looks strange above that, cause you can TELL that I'm sucking my gut in!

I think I may have that lordosis thing. I don't know though, I'm confused about this pelvis stuff. I've got the protruding lower belly and also, my bubble butt has ALWAYS noticably protruded, so much so that my step dad used to actually YELL at me and tell me to quit sticking my butt out! And the thing is, I don't do it on purpose! It's like my lower back has too much curve in it so it pushes my butt OUT.

I also have narrow hips (and shoulders), as in, I LACK curves. Just look at me in a bikini, I look STRAIGHT, barely any curves between my waist and hips. I've also been told by my speed skating coach that I have "man" hips. I guess that's the same thing as having narrow hips, I'm not curvy at all. I have a bubble butt that is not wide since I have no hips.

So, after all that, can anybody shed any light as to what's going on with my skeletal frame? Narrow hips, bubble butt that sticks out too far and I can't help it (it looks like I'm walking around sticking my butt out on purpose, it sucks), and a protruding lower abdomen. Was wondering what that classifies me as? Just curious, it might shed some light onto why I look the way I do. And also, my speed skating coach seems to think the way my hips are set makes it more difficult for me (as opposed to others) to keep my weight down in the skating position, i.e. almost a full squat position. Interesting stuff...
 
Oh geez, yep, there's no doubt about it, I've definitely got lordosis! I finally found some info and even a good picture on it after digging around on the internet a bit. THANK YOU MS for bringing it up!! Now at least I finally know why my butt and my lower abdomen sticks out!!! Thanks MS!!! I've only been trying to figure out what is wrong with me for YEARS!!! What would I do without Elite?!! Still be wondering I guess, but yeah, here is what finally proved it to me, this is what I have, what is causing my butt and my lower abdomen to stick out:

"This curvature tends to make the buttocks appear more prominent. A child with marked lordosis, when laid on his back on a hard surface, will have a space beneath his lower back and the surface."

That is me to a "t", I have to FORCE my lower back to touch whenever I lie down on a hard surface, such as a weight lifting bench. That curve is ALWAYS there and doesn't go away unless I bring my legs up off the ground into a tucked up position.

And here is a picture that when I saw it, I was like, "that is definitely me".

http://www.pennhealth.com/imagepages/9583.htm

Well, this new news sucks, but at least now I KNOW why I'm the way I am!! And thankfully my husband loves me anyway even if my lower abdomen and butt does noticably stick out. ;)
 
Cheetarah said:


"This curvature tends to make the buttocks appear more prominent. A child with marked lordosis, when laid on his back on a hard surface, will have a space beneath his lower back and the surface."


This sounds like me and most black women. sway back/bubble butt.
 
Same here. If I lay on my back, I can cross both arms behind me in the gap between the floor and my lower back with room to spare. Never thoughtit was a problem though, and it doesn't seem to make my gut look big.
 
spatts said:
Same here. If I lay on my back, I can cross both arms behind me in the gap between the floor and my lower back with room to spare. Never thoughtit was a problem though, and it doesn't seem to make my gut look big.

SPATTS GOT BACK!;)
 
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