HELP! - I can't sleep while cutting

[maxb01]

I'm cutting and I can't sleep. Id fall asleep at midnight and then by 4am I'm in a semi-awake state, feeling the hunger but too tired too get up.

 

[keiko]

If you're in deep ketosis, that'll cause insomnia. You could have some milk (good amino acids for sleep) and a little protein powder around 10 or so, and that should help without making you fat.

 

[maxb01]

I've read somewhere milk gives water retention and I'm going to have some pictures taken in a couple of weeks.

 

[koen]

That's right, the lactose in milk will cause the water retention.

Koen

 

[keiko]

Okay, so have some protein powder with water--ick, but it might help you to sleep. Are you very low-carb--can you add a tiny bit of carb (like 2 rye crackers) late at night? Have you tried melatonin?

My problem with insomnia was that my workouts sucked cuz I was so tired.

 

[maxb01]

I'm low carbs but not very low carbs.
Last nite I already had a couple of wholeweat creakers, and protein, but it doesn't seem to be enough to make a difference.

Anyway, about the lactose and water retention, whey protein concentrate seem to have a quite high concentration of lactose. I take Pure Whey by Prolab and it says there's 3g of sugar per scoop, as I can't seem to read any sugar in the ingredients (sucralose is not a sugar, neither is maltodextrin), I come to assume that's lactose. How can I do to sort out this problem?
I'm taking herbal diuretic caps, should that sort out the problem? I've some photos to be taken in a couple weeks, for how long is it ok to take the herbal diuretic caps without bad consequences?

Sorry if I put together too many questions.

 

[fawnmarie]

sleep

I'm not sure if there are any 'water issues', but I use melatonin and kava kava and a cal/mag supplement to get to sleep. If any knows of any reasons not to use these, please step in.

I have the same problem when I'm in ketosis.

Lots of sex helps, too. At least it helps pass the time until I CAN sleep.


Fawn

 

[ROIDRANGER]

try......ghb, warm glass of milk, xanax, ambien(no groggyness)

......i hate not being able to sleep while dieting and this is starting to happen to me now---on fina/winny/anavar----havent had any 'g' lately but will have a stash by next week to finally sleep....

..in the mean time been taken melatonin w/ kava kava in it...works sometimes for me but not enough...

 

[Rockaho]

back off the eca if you are on it.

 

[maxb01]

I don't think is the E/C/A that is causing it.
I fall asleep no problem, but then I start to get in a semi-awake state after 3 hours, but I also feel very tired and sleepy and can't get up either.

Last time I cut I went on a keto and I felt the same and I wasn't actually taking any E/C/A.

 

[Belial]

Can anybody find a single study that states lactose will cause water retention?

Go on, I challenge you.

 

[maxb01]

At the maximuscle's forum they didn't stop saying that, then I don't know (www.maximuscle.co.uk)

 

[Enock]

I don't believe that milk crap and water retention either, Sure it holds some water but no more than a similary glycemicly rated carb beverage.

How high is lactose on the index?

 

[maxb01]

I've found this info at http://www.karlloren.com/Diabetes/diet/Karl-Diary/p1.htm

"Another hormone from the pituitary, ADH, absorbed regularly from pasteurized milk causes water retention. ACTH, a powerful adrenal stimulator, absorbed regularly from pasteurized milk contributes to everything from diabetes and hypertension to Addison's Disease (adrenal exhaustion), and acne."

It'd seem that most of the negative effects milk has are actually caused by pasteurisation. Raw milk has enzymes for the digestion of both milk fat and lactose that are destroyed by pasterisation. The same for calicum absorbtion etc. But it'd also seem that water retention etc. are caused by high processing that pasteurised milk goes through.
That site states pasteurised milk has only been an excuse to mask low quality/dirty milk. His answer is high quality controlled raw milk.
I think he might be right.

I love milk, but I do feel better in my digestive tract when I'm not drinking (even if I miss it). I still think that water retention or similar problems are not caused by a moderate/low consume, or at least not in a visible way.

Milk is low glycaemic (27 full fat, 32 skimmed), but it'd also seem pasteurisation transforms lactose in beta-lactose, a higher glycaemic form of it.

By the way, I love cappuccinos and caffelattes....