Health hazards of high protein

[GaryWary]

Re: Response to several posts

> BigDogg wrote:
> I dont get you... You come to an anabolic steroid
> message board, ask about high protein diet dangers, > and then say u are not interested in building muscle, > just living healthy.. what the hell kinda answer did u
> expect?


The website says that this is "a forum for anything related to bodybuilding". If you want to entertain yourself with other motives for the forum's existence, keep it to yourself. If you read carefully, you'll see that I was interested in health and am now looking to grow muscle. My question was to find out if the two objectives are contradictory.

> GaryWary wrote:
> If you are concerned about protein intake, and you
> use words like plethora, might I suggest you go to
> one of those sissy
> gyms with the cardio equipment and stay there?

You're an idiot.

> Rigorous scientific studies? There is no such thing.
> There is only hypothesis. In science you are in a good
> position if different hypothesis tally…

Data tallies, not hypothesis. And contrary to your beliefs, there are such things as rigorous scientific studies. These are used to get a high degree of confidence in theories. There's no such thing as absolute certainty in knowledge, however, because of the inductive nature of human knowledge. But, I'll settle for a high degree of certainty.

> Body building might not be your game mate…..
> Body builders look fucking fit as fuck well into their
> 40's and 50's

And then what. they keel over in their 50s? Like the gantzer brothers?

> Beezers wrote:

> This isn't the place to come for fitness related health
> advise. Read Men's health for that shit. The majority
> of those on this
> board are here for one sole reason. To be a big as
> humanly possible. This requires an extreme life style.
> High calories and
> high protein. Nutrition is by far the most critical
> aspect of building muscle...why most of us are here.
> You want health, not
> the bodybuilding lifstyle...then you're at the wrong
> place. You asked a bunch of juice heads the health
> risks of a (in our
> lives) mandatory high protein diet. It must be done to
> build muscle...end of story. There is nothing
> dangerous about it. It's
> far mor dangerous to continually consume a high GI
> high carb diet...like most Americans do. This leads to a
> little problem known as diebetes.(potenetially). If your
> a healthy human being then your body is more than
> capable of
> handling large amounts of protein. It's necessary for
> muscle hypertrophy.

My question was not *stating* that high protein is risky but *asking* if it was risky. If you dont have any idea how risky it is, why do you feel inclined to reveal your ignorance? Surely it is a question that anybody planning to go on a high protein diet should ask himself and then decide if it's worth that risk to him to go on it. Incidentally, I've decided upon reading further on the subject that the risks are minimal and I've gone on it. I want health and big muscles and (no thanks to the above stupid remarks) I've found that I *can* have both if I'm careful to follow certain rules.

regards
Carl

Bollix twatface. Is my incredible witty and clever retort.

 

[liftsiron]

The bottom line is if you want to grow and recover from workouts eat 1 to 1.5 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. Anyone who says that this amount will harm liver or kidneys is highly misinformed.

 

[SpikeDog]

The bottom line is that without high protien you are wasting your time trying to put on muscle mass. if you are serious, then up yout protien to 1.5 grams and watch you blood work. Basically everything is harmful to you. Running, not running,,, lifting,, not lifting,,eating,, not eating. Just pick your course and monitor things

 

[Wrongun]

Re: Re: Response to several posts

Bollix twatface. Is my incredible witty and clever retort.

you loved everyone last week i suppose you have started your Clomid therapy LOL

make you right though mate!

Did the move go ok? now you have left us South Londeners for the highlife in Uxbridge

 

[Toenail Juice Z]

You've been lifting for 10 years and yet you still no nothing about Nutrition????

What a waste of 10 years!

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF

 

[ragin']

LMAO @ gary. you're one funny mf.

 

[macDbol]

pussy

 

[Duck]

I agree with AD about starting with 1 G and gradually bump it up if you want. And if you'vegot insurance-the lab tests will be sure to ease your mind.

 

[cgi2]

Great info source

In threads asking people to list their biggest mistakes in the context of bodybuilding, not having enough information seems to come up tops. Most people waste a lot of time doing things wrong, or at least sub-optimally.

I myself lifted for 2-3 years starting 10 years ago. I gained a little but then plateaued out. This made me lose interest in building muscle. I did continue with aerobics though. I did have some idea that my nutrition was deficient but could not do much about it, being in a poor third world country. I'm in the US now.

I realize now that I could have gained a lot more from all my effort if I had educated myself first. That's what I'm trying to do this time around.

I thank the people who've given me good advice in this thread. I dont understand why some have chosen to be nasty.

For anyone else looking for good information, I'd highly recommend
http://www.exrx.net/

regards
-Carl

 

[Tha One CrumCake]

Hey Carl, Knowledge is Power. Just keep studying, learning, reading, analyzing, researching and you'll be fine. If your goal isn't to gain muscle, but rather just to be healthy then:

1 gram of protein per lb(lean steak, fish, chicken, tuna, protein powders) of bodyweight.
1 gram of carbs per lb of bodyweight (oatmeal, veggies, fruits, yams, potatos).
1/2 gram of fat per lb of bodyweight.
(unsaturated sources such as avacados, essential oils, fish, peanut butter, etc.).

If you eat 5-7 meals a day, small - medium sized portions, You'll not only be healthy but you'll look good as well. You also will make more progress in the next 6 months than you did in the previous 10 years.

Good Luck.