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Health hazards of high protein
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cgi2 said:
If you are concerned about protein intake, and you use words like plethora, might I suggest you go to one of those sissy gyms with the cardio equipment and stay there?
Rigorous scientific studies? There is no such thing. There is only hypothesis. In science you are in a good position if different hypothesis tally…
In seriousness the reports that I read many years ago regarding protein intake did not have hypothesis that tallied (agreed). Although, there was at least one hypothesis regarding high protein intake and kidney problems.. Totally inconclusive.. I wouldn’t worry about it..
Body building might not be your game mate…..
cgi2 said:
and no-one can give you that re-assurance.
But guess what? Body builders look fucking fit as fuck well into their 40's and 50's if they keep training... worth 5 years of you max life IF IT IS TRU that protein has a negative health consequence? I think so... And I don't think there is any risk... you are in the wrong game - thinking like that....
If I am not mistaken, protien will effect your liver long before your kidneys. I take in about 200-250 grams a day and my blood work just showed slightly eleveated protien and thats it. For someone with liver trouble, high protien diets can be a problem, but if you liver is normal you have no worries.
cgi2 said:
This isn't the place to come for fitness related health advise. Read Men's health for that shit. The majority of those on this board are here for one sole reason. To be a big as humanly possible. This requires an extreme life style. High calories and high protein. Nutrition is by far the most critical aspect of building muscle...why most of us are here. You want health, not the bodybuilding lifstyle...then you're at the wrong place. You asked a bunch of juice heads the health risks of a (in our lives) mandatory high protein diet. It must be done to build muscle...end of story. There is nothing dangerous about it. It's far mor dangerous to continually consume a high GI high carb diet...like most Americans do. This leads to a little problem known as diebetes.(potenetially). If your a healthy human being then your body is more than capable of handling large amounts of protein. It's necessary for muscle hypertrophy.
Response to several posts
> BigDogg wrote:
> I dont get you... You come to an anabolic steroid
> message board, ask about high protein diet dangers, > and then say u are not interested in building muscle, > just living healthy.. what the hell kinda answer did u
> expect?
The website says that this is "a forum for anything related to bodybuilding". If you want to entertain yourself with other motives for the forum's existence, keep it to yourself. If you read carefully, you'll see that I was interested in health and am now looking to grow muscle. My question was to find out if the two objectives are contradictory.
> GaryWary wrote:
> If you are concerned about protein intake, and you
> use words like plethora, might I suggest you go to
> one of those sissy
> gyms with the cardio equipment and stay there?
You're an idiot.
> Rigorous scientific studies? There is no such thing.
> There is only hypothesis. In science you are in a good
> position if different hypothesis tally…
Data tallies, not hypothesis. And contrary to your beliefs, there are such things as rigorous scientific studies. These are used to get a high degree of confidence in theories. There's no such thing as absolute certainty in knowledge, however, because of the inductive nature of human knowledge. But, I'll settle for a high degree of certainty.
> Body building might not be your game mate…..
> Body builders look fucking fit as fuck well into their
> 40's and 50's
And then what. they keel over in their 50s? Like the gantzer brothers?
> Beezers wrote:
> This isn't the place to come for fitness related health
> advise. Read Men's health for that shit. The majority
> of those on this
> board are here for one sole reason. To be a big as
> humanly possible. This requires an extreme life style.
> High calories and
> high protein. Nutrition is by far the most critical
> aspect of building muscle...why most of us are here.
> You want health, not
> the bodybuilding lifstyle...then you're at the wrong
> place. You asked a bunch of juice heads the health
> risks of a (in our
> lives) mandatory high protein diet. It must be done to
> build muscle...end of story. There is nothing
> dangerous about it. It's
> far mor dangerous to continually consume a high GI
> high carb diet...like most Americans do. This leads to a
> little problem known as diebetes.(potenetially). If your
> a healthy human being then your body is more than
> capable of
> handling large amounts of protein. It's necessary for
> muscle hypertrophy.
My question was not *stating* that high protein is risky but *asking* if it was risky. If you dont have any idea how risky it is, why do you feel inclined to reveal your ignorance? Surely it is a question that anybody planning to go on a high protein diet should ask himself and then decide if it's worth that risk to him to go on it. Incidentally, I've decided upon reading further on the subject that the risks are minimal and I've gone on it. I want health and big muscles and (no thanks to the above stupid remarks) I've found that I *can* have both if I'm careful to follow certain rules.
regards
Carl
> BigDogg wrote:
> I dont get you... You come to an anabolic steroid
> message board, ask about high protein diet dangers, > and then say u are not interested in building muscle, > just living healthy.. what the hell kinda answer did u
> expect?
The website says that this is "a forum for anything related to bodybuilding". If you want to entertain yourself with other motives for the forum's existence, keep it to yourself. If you read carefully, you'll see that I was interested in health and am now looking to grow muscle. My question was to find out if the two objectives are contradictory.
> GaryWary wrote:
> If you are concerned about protein intake, and you
> use words like plethora, might I suggest you go to
> one of those sissy
> gyms with the cardio equipment and stay there?
You're an idiot.
> Rigorous scientific studies? There is no such thing.
> There is only hypothesis. In science you are in a good
> position if different hypothesis tally…
Data tallies, not hypothesis. And contrary to your beliefs, there are such things as rigorous scientific studies. These are used to get a high degree of confidence in theories. There's no such thing as absolute certainty in knowledge, however, because of the inductive nature of human knowledge. But, I'll settle for a high degree of certainty.
> Body building might not be your game mate…..
> Body builders look fucking fit as fuck well into their
> 40's and 50's
And then what. they keel over in their 50s? Like the gantzer brothers?
> Beezers wrote:
> This isn't the place to come for fitness related health
> advise. Read Men's health for that shit. The majority
> of those on this
> board are here for one sole reason. To be a big as
> humanly possible. This requires an extreme life style.
> High calories and
> high protein. Nutrition is by far the most critical
> aspect of building muscle...why most of us are here.
> You want health, not
> the bodybuilding lifstyle...then you're at the wrong
> place. You asked a bunch of juice heads the health
> risks of a (in our
> lives) mandatory high protein diet. It must be done to
> build muscle...end of story. There is nothing
> dangerous about it. It's
> far mor dangerous to continually consume a high GI
> high carb diet...like most Americans do. This leads to a
> little problem known as diebetes.(potenetially). If your
> a healthy human being then your body is more than
> capable of
> handling large amounts of protein. It's necessary for
> muscle hypertrophy.
My question was not *stating* that high protein is risky but *asking* if it was risky. If you dont have any idea how risky it is, why do you feel inclined to reveal your ignorance? Surely it is a question that anybody planning to go on a high protein diet should ask himself and then decide if it's worth that risk to him to go on it. Incidentally, I've decided upon reading further on the subject that the risks are minimal and I've gone on it. I want health and big muscles and (no thanks to the above stupid remarks) I've found that I *can* have both if I'm careful to follow certain rules.
regards
Carl
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Some of the posts to you were pretty good....like the one from AnabolicDiabetic.
Another one brought up the Flax Seed Oil......these men are well read.......I can tell.
Yes......too much protein can be bad for you.....not just in the kidneys but the liver.....like Steroids.....the liver has to break down meat also which can lead to problems if over done. But the constructive advice I'm reading in the chat is.....Flax Seed Oil (you can get them in capsule form....straight will take your breath away), and drink lot's of water......there you go man.....those guys gave the best advice to counter the protien diet.....ooooooops don't forget the Calcium.....when you up protien......up Calcium....that's a basic staple. If your high protien is in the form of meat......which I perfer...I like to eat.......I take digestive emzymes with it.....why make your body do all the work when a cheap little tablet will digest most of the fat, carbs, protien for you. In fact you'll find in all longevity mags that Digestive Emzymes are the wave now. They just now figured that out? I've been doing that for years.
Another one brought up the Flax Seed Oil......these men are well read.......I can tell.
Yes......too much protein can be bad for you.....not just in the kidneys but the liver.....like Steroids.....the liver has to break down meat also which can lead to problems if over done. But the constructive advice I'm reading in the chat is.....Flax Seed Oil (you can get them in capsule form....straight will take your breath away), and drink lot's of water......there you go man.....those guys gave the best advice to counter the protien diet.....ooooooops don't forget the Calcium.....when you up protien......up Calcium....that's a basic staple. If your high protien is in the form of meat......which I perfer...I like to eat.......I take digestive emzymes with it.....why make your body do all the work when a cheap little tablet will digest most of the fat, carbs, protien for you. In fact you'll find in all longevity mags that Digestive Emzymes are the wave now. They just now figured that out? I've been doing that for years.
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