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Have you seen a Real Doll?

Hmm... not sure how you are are making ANY of these conclusions. You know nothing about me except that I have a very high sex drive and that I own a doll.. but then you state false dichotomy out of that, that I "abuse" my doll, and imply that I don't know anything about how to connect on an emotional level.
You've spent a very long time crafting a very carefully constructed argument to justify yourself to a total stranger on the Internet. Unfortunately, I've run nearly as long as you, mainly because I'm procrastinating about getting to work.

You are like every other addict or any other person I've ever encountered who lives a deviant lifestyle (and please look up the definition of deviant, I'm using it in the classical sense as deviated from the norm). Everyone else is wrong, you're right and you will defend yourself to the last breath, arguing in endless circles, to prove that point. I will address a few specific points of this novel of a post you wrote:

The comment regarding "abuse of the doll" stems directly from your original post where you made several references to kinky and stated you have latex and bondage gear. I consider those things abuse as they fall under the realm of S&M. (The idea that pleasure = pain is for someone who grew up with too many contradictions in their life. I had no contradictions so for me pain hurts, pleasure feels great, end of story).

As for my husband's deepest, darkest fantasies, yes, I can honestly say what those are. But as you stated, I can't possibly understand what you demand of a relationship, by the same token, neither can you understand what we require of ours. Our relationship is literally sacred to us. There are no unopened doors, no secrets, no fears, no need of lying or manipulation that exists within so many relationships. We entered into our relationship having taken, literally, every physical, mental, psychological and emotional skeleton out of our respective closets and showing them to each other in the hopes of driving each other away. We don't need or desire the type of sexual relationship you're driven toward, because it's, frankly, boring and empty. You're driven to immediate sexual gratification on a physical level and you need to keep amping up the intensity of that physicality. When I make love with my husband our connection goes much further, deeper and broader than the mere physical act. We crawl into each other's skins and heads, so to speak. We each experience what the other is feeling. Until you've made love in a sacred relationship you can't understand it. You can't equate what my husband and I share to what you do to a piece of silicon, there is ZERO comparison. They don't even fall into similar categories. It's not comparing apples to oranges, it's comparing a symphony to concrete.

As for the addiction to intimacy comment, you've confused intimacy with orgasm.

Regarding your comment about men and their lust, you've got Strongbow right there saying the same thing I am. I'd like to add to his one comment about masturbation, at least when you masturbate you're having sex with someone (ideally) you love.

Finally, just because you're a sexual thrill seeker who thinks getting kinkier or "going to the bottom of the rabbit hole" is the penultimate sex and that's the only kind of woman you can be with, if you really believed that, there are PLENTY of ways to find women like that via the internet or in actual clubs. Women like that exist, you just don't want to really find one, because ultimately, you don't want to be with a real woman. If her drive was as "insatiable" (and kinky) as your own, you'd probably grow to despise her and yourself for having anything to do with her. You'd get bored with her. Sooner or later you'd have to hold a conversation and where would you be? Forced to face true intimacy and then you'd be in that place you really don't want to be in, forced to examine who you are and why you do what you do, why you want what you want.

So you tell yourself that there is no woman out there that could possibly match your drive and impulses, you tell yourself that any man if he truly opened himself up to who he was would be every bit as dark and deviated as you, and you tell yourself that you're healthy, your impulses are normal, just excessive, and you're totally open and utterly honest with yourself. I'm telling you it's a facade, as artificial as the woman you go home to at night.

True intimacy is having the courage to look someone you respect in the eye and face their judgement and they look right back and you and say "That doesn't change how much I love you."

You have found your niche and you are comfortable there. Good for you. I'm glad there are outlets and manufacturers who can fulfil your needs and desires. But desiring to remain in that niche, not trying to push beyond those boundaries and completely dismissing any question that maybe what you expect out of a relationship is unreasonable, right there tells me volumes.

BTW, just throwing this out there, I knew a young man who was married to a nympho when he was 21. After four months he was sick to death of having sex with her. He loved her dearly but got to the point where he was avoiding her. So even for young men, supposedly in their sexual prime, having sex 3x daily/365 gets to be a fucking bore. Wanting so much sex that any partner is annoyed with you is not normal and telling yourself it is normal is self-delusion.

That being said, I have to say (considering I collect abnormal human psychology as a hobby), you are intriguing. We have a guy who likes to shit on women's chests on this board, too. However, he, at least, has a sense of humor about his perversion.
 
You've spent a very long time crafting a very carefully constructed argument to justify yourself to a total stranger on the Internet. Unfortunately, I've run nearly as long as you, mainly because I'm procrastinating about getting to work.

You are like every other addict or any other person I've ever encountered who lives a deviant lifestyle (and please look up the definition of deviant, I'm using it in the classical sense as deviated from the norm). Everyone else is wrong, you're right and you will defend yourself to the last breath, arguing in endless circles, to prove that point. I will address a few specific points of this novel of a post you wrote:

The comment regarding "abuse of the doll" stems directly from your original post where you made several references to kinky and stated you have latex and bondage gear. I consider those things abuse as they fall under the realm of S&M. (The idea that pleasure = pain is for someone who grew up with too many contradictions in their life. I had no contradictions so for me pain hurts, pleasure feels great, end of story).

As for my husband's deepest, darkest fantasies, yes, I can honestly say what those are. But as you stated, I can't possibly understand what you demand of a relationship, by the same token, neither can you understand what we require of ours. Our relationship is literally sacred to us. There are no unopened doors, no secrets, no fears, no need of lying or manipulation that exists within so many relationships. We entered into our relationship having taken, literally, every physical, mental, psychological and emotional skeleton out of our respective closets and showing them to each other in the hopes of driving each other away. We don't need or desire the type of sexual relationship you're driven toward, because it's, frankly, boring and empty. You're driven to immediate sexual gratification on a physical level and you need to keep amping up the intensity of that physicality. When I make love with my husband our connection goes much further, deeper and broader than the mere physical act. We crawl into each other's skins and heads, so to speak. We each experience what the other is feeling. Until you've made love in a sacred relationship you can't understand it. You can't equate what my husband and I share to what you do to a piece of silicon, there is ZERO comparison. They don't even fall into similar categories. It's not comparing apples to oranges, it's comparing a symphony to concrete.

As for the addiction to intimacy comment, you've confused intimacy with orgasm.

Regarding your comment about men and their lust, you've got Strongbow right there saying the same thing I am. I'd like to add to his one comment about masturbation, at least when you masturbate you're having sex with someone (ideally) you love.

Finally, just because you're a sexual thrill seeker who thinks getting kinkier or "going to the bottom of the rabbit hole" is the penultimate sex and that's the only kind of woman you can be with, if you really believed that, there are PLENTY of ways to find women like that via the internet or in actual clubs. Women like that exist, you just don't want to really find one, because ultimately, you don't want to be with a real woman. If her drive was as "insatiable" (and kinky) as your own, you'd probably grow to despise her and yourself for having anything to do with her. You'd get bored with her. Sooner or later you'd have to hold a conversation and where would you be? Forced to face true intimacy and then you'd be in that place you really don't want to be in, forced to examine who you are and why you do what you do, why you want what you want.

So you tell yourself that there is no woman out there that could possibly match your drive and impulses, you tell yourself that any man if he truly opened himself up to who he was would be every bit as dark and deviated as you, and you tell yourself that you're healthy, your impulses are normal, just excessive, and you're totally open and utterly honest with yourself. I'm telling you it's a facade, as artificial as the woman you go home to at night.

True intimacy is having the courage to look someone you respect in the eye and face their judgement and they look right back and you and say "That doesn't change how much I love you."

You have found your niche and you are comfortable there. Good for you. I'm glad there are outlets and manufacturers who can fulfil your needs and desires. But desiring to remain in that niche, not trying to push beyond those boundaries and completely dismissing any question that maybe what you expect out of a relationship is unreasonable, right there tells me volumes.

BTW, just throwing this out there, I knew a young man who was married to a nympho when he was 21. After four months he was sick to death of having sex with her. He loved her dearly but got to the point where he was avoiding her. So even for young men, supposedly in their sexual prime, having sex 3x daily/365 gets to be a fucking bore. Wanting so much sex that any partner is annoyed with you is not normal and telling yourself it is normal is self-delusion.

That being said, I have to say (considering I collect abnormal human psychology as a hobby), you are intriguing. We have a guy who likes to shit on women's chests on this board, too. However, he, at least, has a sense of humor about his perversion.
Musclemom you should hook this guy up with the shitter dude, they could tagteam his doll. Take turns beating her ass and shitting on her chest. That sounds like this whack jobs idea a kick ass weekend. I do not beleive that he has gotten himself totally convinced of his own views. Dudes like this are looking for somebody, anybody to side with them, so I hope noone will add any fuel to this guys fire. My deal is not with his doll fetish, it is with his view that somehow that is an economical and emotional substitue for a real realtionship. Just when you think you have problems, somebody like this pops up and shows you how totally normal and sane you are.
 
nah, the dude who shits on girls is cool as fuck. you would like him.
wulgar. send him a pm.
 
My deal is not with his doll fetish, it is with his view that somehow that is an economical and emotional substitue for a real realtionship.
Stated more eloquently and with much less verbage than my ramblings.

The doll is the Ferrari's of Fleshlights. Dildos, whether for women or men, are fine as a temporary solution and can add a little variety in self love, but I am at a loss as to how it can be perceived as an acceptable substitute for true intimacy.
 
nah, the dude who shits on girls is cool as fuck. you would like him.
wulgar. send him a pm.
Wulfgar's good bro material, he's been gracious enough to let me pick his brain on a few occasions even if it did make him uncomfortable.
 
nah, the dude who shits on girls is cool as fuck. you would like him.
wulgar. send him a pm.
Oh i have shit on plenty of girls, but not in the physical sense of actually dropping a hot steaming turd on one. Diffrent strokes for diffrent folks I know, I thought you was talking about another whack job like this Bozo. I have seen Wulfgar post top notch bro from waht I have seen. But this guy is one of those Silence of the Lambs type mutha fuckers, waiting to rape and pilage small children and house pets and shit. We won't know it but I bet this fucker will be on the news one day in handcuffs. Just Saying.
 
That being said, I have to say (considering I collect abnormal human psychology as a hobby), you are intriguing. .

Well.. I could point out all the logical fallacies I see in your post.. but why bother?

Even if it couldn't be farther from the truth, you've got me all tied up in a nice little package that makes sence to you... let's call it a day. :)
 
Well.. I could point out all the logical fallacies I see in your post.. but why bother?

Even if it couldn't be farther from the truth, you've got me all tied up in a nice little package that makes sence to you... let's call it a day. :)
I got two words to wrap you up in a nut shell CLOSET FAGGOT. Just come out man shit its all rite. We aint scared of or in anyway look down on gay people. Its pervs that catch all the hell and you sir are a a complete perv, not in the sense of you like to stick your finger up a girls ass while your doing her, hell I like that. Your sickness runs way deep, like your mom run off with the milk man and now every women is worthless and unsatisfying to you. Get a grip Hommie.
 
Well.. I could point out all the logical fallacies I see in your post.. but why bother?

Even if it couldn't be farther from the truth, you've got me all tied up in a nice little package that makes sence to you... let's call it a day. :)
:whatever:

You have an interesting user name. It's unusual enough that I doubt if there are lots of others like it out there (unlike my own, I've tried to get this name on other weight training boards and other ladies have beaten me to it).

Funny thing about unusual user names, it's always interesting to see what pops up when you Google them :qt:
 
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