Have you seen a Real Doll?

[soragesum2]

Yes I have seen one... I "see" my doll every day. Among much more physical kinky things.

I have seen some topics in this forum regarding realdolls so I registered just to be able to post here about it.

Seems to be that the attitude about lifelike dolls and owning one is changing. Slowly changing, but changing non-the-less. A couple of years ago, just the mention about these dolls in any non pro-doll forum would typically bring out the doll bashers. Typically starting with a handful of woman saying things along the lines of "What kind of 'looser/creep/pervert' would own something like that". Then would come the endless stream of guys saying things like "yea.. it's the real thing for me or nothing, these guys are lowlifes who can't get a 'real' girl". Followed up by things like "Ladies, at least these loosers have taken themselves out of the gene pool".. and the insults would flow endlessly. I've read them all. LOL.

Of course while I am reading this I am rolling my eyes at both the men AND women who are bashing the dolls.

Personally I am rolling my eyes at the women, because of the overarching stereotyping they are doing. If they only had any clue the wide range of men who own these dolls. Yes.. there are guys who fit the stereotypes. There are the shy, geeky, social awkward type who does have trouble with women as portrayed in films like "Lars and the Real Girl". But they are by far not even the largest percentage of doll owners... because there is no "one type" of doll owner. There are guys who are very much "averaage", in both looks and success. But there are equally guys who are very good looking, and very successful who have a doll and everything in between.

I know for certain that I personally wouldn't fit the sterotypically view of a doll owner, in the eyes of doll bashers. I know doll owners who do fit that mold, but I know just as many, if not more, who don't. You just have to understand that, currently, there is NO reason for that rock star, CEO, famous athlete, succesful doctor/lawyer/business owner etc. to come out into the "open" and show/talk about that they have a doll. Currently, they would have nothing to gain, and everything to loose. So if they talk about it at ALL, like myself, they do it anonmously on the internet. And for every person like myself who, at the very least, does talk about it, there are 100's if not 1000's of doll owners who buy a doll and you never hear a peep out of them EVER.

So I roll my eyes at women who bash doll owners, becaue I know that goodlooking guy at work who's keeps her panties moist day in and day out fantasizing about him... could be a doll owner. That good looking doctor that she goes to every couple of months... could be a doll owner. That built muscular guy working out next to her at the gym that she will be fantasizing about while using her vibrator that night... yep.. he could be a doll owner. Think about this ladies.. a guy who isn't at least somewhat "sucessful"... isn't going to be able to plop down that much money for somethign like this.

And the reasons for owning a doll are even more varied than the owners themselves. Personally for me... it's not that I can't get a woman in the least. I'll admit that I don't have women throwing themselves at me.. I wouldn't even want that. But finding a date now and again isn't the problem. I simply can't find the RIGHT woman. There just arn't too many woman out their that can handle the kind of endless lust and passion that I am packing. Women's romantic literature is DRIPPING with fantasies of a lover who can't keep his hands off her... yet finding a woman who can truely handle such a thing... that's an entirely different beast.


Now as far as the guy doll bashers... I roll my eyes at them, because as us all being men, and especially from us doll owners.. you might as well be saying that you don't ever look at porn or masturbate as to say that you would never fuck one of these lifesized silicon dolls where you given the chance. Which the response is a big old fat eye roll! Yea right.. I KNOW that 99.99% of guys would bang a realdoll like a screen door in a hurricane if they were given the opportunity and didn't think anyone would ever find out. Yea.. there's goign to be that 1 guy out of a thousand that wouldn't.. and I'm not saying that it would end up being every guy's cup of tea.. but damn straight they would do it! You guys all know it, and ladies.. don't kid yourself to think otherwise that your man would in a second! I don't care what he tells you. Again.. he doesn't ever look at porn or masturbate either, does he?

But I'm glad to see there are more and more guys admiting they would do a doll in a second and even admiting that they want one!

And one last thought about the price... that a hooker or strip club is cheaper. I have one thing to say about that.

Realdoll... fuck her once and it cost you $6500. Fuck her twice and it cost you $3750 per time. Fuck her 10 times and it cost you $650 per fuck. Fuck her 100 times and it cost you $65 per fuck. After a few short years when the cost per fuck approaches $1 per fuck.. I'm not their quite yet.. but getting close , it's the best money I ever spent.

Or put another way:
Realdoll: $6500
Lingerie, latex, bondage gear: $Too much to count
Endless kinky sex 3-10 times a day: Priceless!

 

[Strongbow]

Yes I have seen one... I "see" my doll every day. Among much more physical kinky things.

I have seen some topics in this forum regarding realdolls so I registered just to be able to post here about it.

Seems to be that the attitude about lifelike dolls and owning one is changing. Slowly changing, but changing non-the-less. A couple of years ago, just the mention about these dolls in any non pro-doll forum would typically bring out the doll bashers. Typically starting with a handful of woman saying things along the lines of "What kind of 'looser/creep/pervert' would own something like that". Then would come the endless stream of guys saying things like "yea.. it's the real thing for me or nothing, these guys are lowlifes who can't get a 'real' girl". Followed up by things like "Ladies, at least these loosers have taken themselves out of the gene pool".. and the insults would flow endlessly. I've read them all. LOL.

Of course while I am reading this I am rolling my eyes at both the men AND women who are bashing the dolls.

Personally I am rolling my eyes at the women, because of the overarching stereotyping they are doing. If they only had any clue the wide range of men who own these dolls. Yes.. there are guys who fit the stereotypes. There are the shy, geeky, social awkward type who does have trouble with women as portrayed in films like "Lars and the Real Girl". But they are by far not even the largest percentage of doll owners... because there is no "one type" of doll owner. There are guys who are very much "averaage", in both looks and success. But there are equally guys who are very good looking, and very successful who have a doll and everything in between.

I know for certain that I personally wouldn't fit the sterotypically view of a doll owner, in the eyes of doll bashers. I know doll owners who do fit that mold, but I know just as many, if not more, who don't. You just have to understand that, currently, there is NO reason for that rock star, CEO, famous athlete, succesful doctor/lawyer/business owner etc. to come out into the "open" and show/talk about that they have a doll. Currently, they would have nothing to gain, and everything to loose. So if they talk about it at ALL, like myself, they do it anonmously on the internet. And for every person like myself who, at the very least, does talk about it, there are 100's if not 1000's of doll owners who buy a doll and you never hear a peep out of them EVER.

So I roll my eyes at women who bash doll owners, becaue I know that goodlooking guy at work who's keeps her panties moist day in and day out fantasizing about him... could be a doll owner. That good looking doctor that she goes to every couple of months... could be a doll owner. That built muscular guy working out next to her at the gym that she will be fantasizing about while using her vibrator that night... yep.. he could be a doll owner. Think about this ladies.. a guy who isn't at least somewhat "sucessful"... isn't going to be able to plop down that much money for somethign like this.

And the reasons for owning a doll are even more varied than the owners themselves. Personally for me... it's not that I can't get a woman in the least. I'll admit that I don't have women throwing themselves at me.. I wouldn't even want that. But finding a date now and again isn't the problem. I simply can't find the RIGHT woman. There just arn't too many woman out their that can handle the kind of endless lust and passion that I am packing. Women's romantic literature is DRIPPING with fantasies of a lover who can't keep his hands off her... yet finding a woman who can truely handle such a thing... that's an entirely different beast.


Now as far as the guy doll bashers... I roll my eyes at them, because as us all being men, and especially from us doll owners.. you might as well be saying that you don't ever look at porn or masturbate as to say that you would never fuck one of these lifesized silicon dolls where you given the chance. Which the response is a big old fat eye roll! Yea right.. I KNOW that 99.99% of guys would bang a realdoll like a screen door in a hurricane if they were given the opportunity and didn't think anyone would ever find out. Yea.. there's goign to be that 1 guy out of a thousand that wouldn't.. and I'm not saying that it would end up being their cup of tea.. but damn straight they would do it! You guys all know it, and ladies.. don't kid yourself to think otherwise that your man would in a second! I don't care what he tells you. Again.. he doesn't ever look at porn or masturbate either, does he?

But I'm glad to see there are more and more guys admiting they would do a doll in a second and even admiting that they want one!

And one last thought about the price... that a hooker or strip club is cheaper. I have one thing to say about that.

Realdoll... fuck her once and it cost you $6500. Fuck her twice and it cost you $3750 per time. Fuck her 10 times and it cost you $650 per fuck. Fuck her 100 times and it cost you $65 per fuck. After a few short years when the cost per fuck approaches $1 per fuck.. I'm not their quite yet.. but getting close , it's the best money I ever spent.

Or put another way:
Realdoll: $6500
Lingerie, latex, bondage gear: $Too much to count
Endless kinky sex 3-10 times a day: Priceless!

Okay, the fact that you have thought that much about it is whats creepy to me. Issues my man ISSUES. I f you like fucking rubber dolls, you like fucking rubber dolls case closed. You however are a very fucking disturbed individual.

 

[musclemom]

Yes I have seen one... I "see" my doll every day. Among much more physical kinky things.

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Or put another way:
Realdoll: $6500
Lingerie, latex, bondage gear: $Too much to count
Endless kinky sex 3-10 times a day: Priceless!

My dear sir, thank you for sharing so openly and honestly about yourself.

That being said, on behalf of women across whatever continent you live on, may I say "whew" that you have chosen to remove yourself from the dating pool. Thank you, I mean that most sincerely! Normal chicks have enough problems with average weirdness in our intimate relationships. You clearly have moved the action onto an entirely different playing field and that's a fucking scary place IMO.

 

[soragesum2]

Okay, the fact that you have thought that much about it is whats creepy to me. Issues my man ISSUES. I f you like fucking rubber dolls, you like fucking rubber dolls case closed. You however are a very fucking disturbed individual.

Certainly... I even stated very clearly what my "issues" are.

I don't speak for any other doll owner, but for me the issue is not being able to find a woman who can truely handle endless lust and passion, and me simply not settling for anything less!

You'd be amazed at how many supposed "nmyphomaniacs", within a month, suddenly become "Is all you think about is sex?" Many people can "talk the talk", but few seem to be able to actually "walk the walk".

Again.. my issue is just finding the right woman who can keep up.

As far as being distrubed? Well... one person's kink is another person's vanilla, we're all different my man... we're all different. If that makes me "disturbed" in your book... then so be it.

 

[soragesum2]

My dear sir, thank you for sharing so openly and honestly about yourself.

That being said, on behalf of women across whatever continent you live on, may I say "whew" that you have chosen to remove yourself from the dating pool. Thank you, I mean that most sincerely! Normal chicks have enough problems with average weirdness in our intimate relationships. You clearly have moved the action onto an entirely different playing field and that's a fucking scary place IMO.

/Rolls eyes... Thanks for the laugh... not like I haven't read that one before. I even mentioned that exact same comment in my message as an example of the typical things the average woman comments about doll owners. LOL

And that's perfectly fine with me too... you are most certainly welcome.. a "normal" chick is the last thing I would settle for.

 

[musclemom]

/Rolls eyes... Thanks for the laugh... not like I haven't read that one before. I even mentioned that exact same comment in my message as an example of the typical things the average woman comments about doll owners. LOL

And that's perfectly fine with me too... you are most certainly welcome.. a "normal" chick is the last thing I would settle for.

I'm glad you laughed. And I have no doubt other women have said the same thing, and they've probably also said this: In my eyes, I see a deepseated objectification of women. You even abuse your doll. That's why I was saying that perhaps it's best you don't date flesh and blood women. We have hearts and we like to connect on an emotional level. It comes with the whole nurturing territory.

On another level, speaking as someone who's been in a relationship with the same person for 15 years, there is more to a healthy relationship than sex. As my husband says, good sex is the frosting, but it's not the whole cake. If your overwhelming drive is what prevents you from having a emotionally connected and supportive relationship haven't you thought about perhaps talking to someone to see if maybe you are suffering from a hormonal imbalance (like excessive test.) or perhaps speaking to a mental health professional and seeing if, no offense intended, you are a sex addict?

I just can't imagine being satisfied over the long haul with a piece of silicon, no matter how masterfully crafted. She can't hug you when you get bad news, she can't laugh at your dumb jokes, cook your favorite meals or nurse you when you're sick. An overwhelming desire for non-stop, kinky fucking that prevents you from having a healthy relationship seems so sad and dreadfully empty.

 

[Strongbow]

Certainly... I even stated very clearly what my "issues" are.

I don't speak for any other doll owner, but for me the issue is not being able to find a woman who can truely handle endless lust and passion, and me simply not settling for anything less!

You'd be amazed at how many supposed "nmyphomaniacs", within a month, suddenly become "Is all you think about is sex?" Many people can "talk the talk", but few seem to be able to actually "walk the walk".

Again.. my issue is just finding the right woman who can keep up.

As far as being distrubed? Well... one person's kink is another person's vanilla, we're all different my man... we're all different. If that makes me "disturbed" in your book... then so be it.

Dude I was not even talking about the doll issue, if you like dolls, hey you like dolls. Not a problem. Some dudes like having another dude stick his wick up their ass, what ever floats your boat. I guess Im just Vanillia as you put it. But to sit down and put enough thought into something as to have come up with the price of rubber doll pussy versus the real deal is kinda way the fuck out there. Almost like your trying to convince yourself that its ok and actually more economical. The older I get the more I realize that sex is great, but it aint shit without the companionship that goes with it. No rubber hole is going to give you that. If you are truley trying to rationalize this on the basis of bang for your buck, mite I suggest just beating it off. A lil KY and your on your way. After all your whole rational is that its all just a means to an end, so why spend the money on a doll. But hey thats just my 2, happy humping and tell your doll Strongbow says Whats up.

 

[Strongbow]

I'm glad you laughed. And I have no doubt other women have said the same thing, and they've probably also said this: In my eyes, I see a deepseated objectification of women. You even abuse your doll. That's why I was saying that perhaps it's best you don't date flesh and blood women. We have hearts and we like to connect on an emotional level. It comes with the whole nurturing territory.

On another level, speaking as someone who's been in a relationship with the same person for 15 years, there is more to a healthy relationship than sex. As my husband says, good sex is the frosting, but it's not the whole cake. If your overwhelming drive is what prevents you from having a emotionally connected and supportive relationship haven't you thought about perhaps talking to someone to see if maybe you are suffering from a hormonal imbalance (like excessive test.) or perhaps speaking to a mental health professional and seeing if, no offense intended, you are a sex addict?

I just can't imagine being satisfied over the long haul with a piece of silicon, no matter how masterfully crafted. She can't hug you when you get bad news, she can't laugh at your dumb jokes, cook your favorite meals or nurse you when you're sick. An overwhelming desire for non-stop, kinky fucking that prevents you from having a healthy relationship seems so sad and dreadfully empty.

Muscle MOm Rulez and she's HAwt ass Hell to.

 

[soragesum2]

You even abuse your doll. That's why I was saying that perhaps it's best you don't date flesh and blood women. We have hearts and we like to connect on an emotional level. It comes with the whole nurturing territory.

On another level, speaking as someone who's been in a relationship with the same person for 15 years, there is more to a healthy relationship than sex. As my husband says, good sex is the frosting, but it's not the whole cake. If your overwhelming drive is what prevents you from having a emotionally connected and supportive relationship haven't you thought about perhaps talking to someone to see if maybe you are suffering from a hormonal imbalance (like excessive test.) or perhaps speaking to a mental health professional and seeing if, no offense intended, you are a sex addict?

Hmm... not sure how you are are making ANY of these conclusions. You know nothing about me except that I have a very high sex drive and that I own a doll.. but then you state false dichotomy out of that, that I "abuse" my doll, and imply that I don't know anything about how to connect on an emotional level.

You then go on to make an argument from personal incredulity that because YOU don't understand something that there must be something "wrong" with me... that I have a hormonal imbalance or am a sex addict.

Quite the contrary... If I am addicted to anything.. it's not sex, it would be intimacy. But "addiction" carries with it the connotation of a "problem". Something is only a "problem", if it impares your ability to function on a day to day basis. I "function" just fine, thank you very much, and if I worked right next to you day in and day out.. you would never have a "clue" that it's me typing this right now.

Most men seperate their love and their lust. Women today more or less force men to do this because they can't really handle most men's lust (a hypothosis that is re-inforced again and again on a daily basis). So most men in our world are forced to bury, ignore, hold back, cover up, and hide their lust. My love and lust are one, and I can't seperate them. I can't love whom doesn't thrist for my lust and I can't lust for whom I don't love. Too often in this world it seems you can only have one or the other... but I need both. And I will love the woman who understands this beyond comparison. The woman who is willing to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. With no fear... only passionate anticipation. I won't settle for less.. which in your eyes seems to mean I have a "problem". A problem because I understand almost perfectly what it is I need and would rather die searching for it than to live a life trying to fit a square peg into a round hole?

This man that you have been with for 15 years... do you even know what his absolute deepest darkest fantasy is? Do you... really? Are you sure? Are you ABSOLUTLY sure? Before you answer so quick... realize that a man's deepest darkest fantasy is something that he probably has never spoken or written out loud EVER. His brother doesn't know... his best friends don't know.. and I wouldn't doubt, that YOU don't really know either. Realize that he probably has buried and hidden and held it back for so long that HE might not even be fully aware of what it is. Also realize that if you push him on it (or have asked him about it) that he will probably give you a "false" deep dark fantasy... something that he thinks you can handle.. or he will give you a greatly watered down version of the real thing. I could be wrong... but the odds are in my favor.

From my standpoint... I simply won't settle for a woman who doesn't need anything LESS than knowing every single last detail of every last deepest darkest fantasy that I have ever had.. and needs to know them like she needs to breath... and would do everything that doesn't break the laws of physics to make them real. This speaks to a level of intimacy, trust, passion and love that very few people comprehend.

This may sound like I demand a lot... and I do. But I never demand anything that I am not willing to give back 10,000 times over. If I overwhelmed the entire internet with text trying to describe the deep capacity for love and intimacy that I am capable of.. it would still only be the tip of the iceburg, and I would wager that you still wouldn't see anythign other than what you already do... if anything your false dicotomies are probably just more intrenched now.

I do realize it's not even worth trying to describe. I've found out long ago that what burns inside me is something someone is hardwired for, or they're not. If you are not, then it's like staring at one of those "magic eyes" images.. nothing I, or anyone, can say would ever enable you to actually be able to focus on and SEE the image, let alone ever be able to FEEL it.

So what I am saying isn't really for you to understand... it's simply a beacon set here that maybe every once in a blue moon someone will stumble by that will.

 

[Strongbow]

Hmm... not sure how you are are making ANY of these conclusions. You know nothing about me except that I have a very high sex drive and that I own a doll.. but then you state false dichotomy out of that, that I "abuse" my doll, and imply that I don't know anything about how to connect on an emotional level.

You then go on to make an argument from personal incredulity that because YOU don't understand something that there must be something "wrong" with me... that I have a hormonal imbalance or am a sex addict.

Quite the contrary... If I am addicted to anything.. it's not sex, it would be intimacy. But "addiction" carries with it the connotation of a "problem". Something is only a "problem", if it impares your ability to function on a day to day basis. I "function" just fine, thank you very much, and if I worked right next to you day in and day out.. you would never have a "clue" that it's me typing this right now.

Most men seperate their love and their lust. Women today more or less force men to do this because they can't really handle most men's lust (a hypothosis that is re-inforced again and again on a daily basis). So most men in our world are forced to bury, ignore, hold back, cover up, and hide their lust. My love and lust are one, and I can't seperate them. I can't love whom doesn't thrist for my lust and I can't lust for whom I don't love. Too often in this world it seems you can only have one or the other... but I need both. And I will love the woman who understands this beyond comparison. The woman who is willing to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. With no fear... only passionate anticipation. I won't settle for less.. which in your eyes seems to mean I have a "problem". A problem because I understand almost perfectly what it is I need and would rather die searching for it than to live a life trying to fit a square peg into a round hole?

This man that you have been with for 15 years... do you even know what his absolute deepest darkest fantasy is? Do you... really? Are you sure? Are you ABSOLUTLY sure? Before you answer so quick... realize that a man's deepest darkest fantasy is something that he probably has never spoken or written out loud EVER. His brother doesn't know... his best friends don't know.. and I wouldn't doubt, that YOU don't really know either. Realize that he probably has buried and hidden and held it back for so long that HE might not even be fully aware of what it is. Also realize that if you push him on it (or have asked him about it) that he will probably give you a "false" deep dark fantasy... something that he thinks you can handle.. or he will give you a greatly watered down version of the real thing. I could be wrong... but the odds are in my favor.

From my standpoint... I simply won't settle for a woman who doesn't need anything LESS than knowing every single last detail of every last deepest darkest fantasy that I have ever had.. and needs to know them like she needs to breath... and would do everything that doesn't break the laws of physics to make them real. This speaks to a level of intimacy, trust, passion and love that very few people comprehend.

This may sound like I demand a lot... and I do. But I never demand anything that I am not willing to give back 10,000 times over. If I overwhelmed the entire internet with text trying to describe the deep capacity for love and intimacy that I am capable of.. it would still only be the tip of the iceburg, and I would wager that you still wouldn't see anythign other than what you already do... if anything your false dicotomies are probably just more intrenched now.

I do realize it's not even worth trying to describe. I've found out long ago that what burns inside me is something someone is hardwired for, or they're not. If you are not, then it's like staring at one of those "magic eyes" images.. nothing I, or anyone, can say would ever enable you to actually be able to focus on and SEE the image, let alone ever be able to FEEL it.

So what I am saying isn't really for you to understand... it's simply a beacon set here that maybe every once in a blue moon someone will stumble by that will.

So say your women's deepest darkest fantasy is to run 12 inches of her srap on cawck up your ass, are you down for that?