Have you ever Crushed Someones Hand?

[WantNoFatAssHo!]

I have a quite good looking girlfriend, and when we go clubbing or to a pub, there's always a few drunk shitheads that try to make a move on her. I aint no big guy, only about 150lbs and 5'9''.

I hate to tell these dipshits to stay away from her because they always want to fight me since I am an abvious easy victim, and there are quite a few guys that really like to humiliate people and get in fights where i live. I know my chances of winning a fist-fight are slim, but I don't want to look like a coward either.

Well, I've decided to handshake-crush one of these fellas hands once. I am uncertain about weather I ever will be able to do this, so I am going to need some feedback.

I work out my forearms with focus on crushing strenght every 4 to 5 days. I do the Captains of Crush gripper, plate leverage (holding on only to on inch on the plate), reverse DB curls, no-strap chins and DB forearm-curls.

I currently manage about 20 solid reps on the CofC trainer. I know this aint a lot, but when i first started (two months ago) I could only do about two, so my progress has been good.

Please reply if you have ever handshake-crushed someones hand or seen someone else do this.

What would be a good time for me to try this? (e.g. when I manage to fully close the CofC #2)

Should I change my workout routine? How long time should I wait between the sets? And should I invest in the Ivanko Super Gripper? I am going to get theCofC #1, when I manage to close the trainer 25 times.

I've never done any cycles, but I was thinking of popping some good high quality var to up my strenght if I reach a tough plateau.

Any other tips?

 

[ZZuluZ]

How about martial arts?

-Zulu

 

[Imnotdutch]

You don't need a strong grip to hurt somebody with a shake.....just grab their hand firmly around the knuckles and roll the knockles around on one another......

Better still.....shake their hand whilst you kick em in the nads or kick their knee back or sideways. Judging by one of the threads on here lately there are plenty of people here with tips on fighting to win hehehe.

I have a quite good looking girlfriend, and when we go clubbing or to a pub, there's always a few drunk shitheads that try to make a move on her. I aint no big guy, only about 150lbs and 5'9''.

I hate to tell these dipshits to stay away from her because they always want to fight me since I am an abvious easy victim, and there are quite a few guys that really like to humiliate people and get in fights where i live. I know my chances of winning a fist-fight are slim, but I don't want to look like a coward either.

Well, I've decided to handshake-crush one of these fellas hands once. I am uncertain about weather I ever will be able to do this, so I am going to need some feedback.

I work out my forearms with focus on crushing strenght every 4 to 5 days. I do the Captains of Crush gripper, plate leverage (holding on only to on inch on the plate), reverse DB curls, no-strap chins and DB forearm-curls.

I currently manage about 20 solid reps on the CofC trainer. I know this aint a lot, but when i first started (two months ago) I could only do about two, so my progress has been good.

Please reply if you have ever handshake-crushed someones hand or seen someone else do this.

What would be a good time for me to try this? (e.g. when I manage to fully close the CofC #2)

Should I change my workout routine? How long time should I wait between the sets? And should I invest in the Ivanko Super Gripper? I am going to get theCofC #1, when I manage to close the trainer 25 times.

I've never done any cycles, but I was thinking of popping some good high quality var to up my strenght if I reach a tough plateau.

Any other tips?

 

[powerlifterjay]

I have two inside the bar tactics that are gauranteed to knock a bitch out oryour money back!

When you are close to them face to face or a little further back, step up close enough as if to talk to them for a sec. Then say "Hey man" YOu being little must talk first, to take their mind off of an attack. "Hey man" Then i assume your right handed stand with your left slightly in front so you can generate a little power and the whole time look them in the eye like your talking....then BAM, throw un upper cut in to their underside of the jaw. The chin. But listen dont telegraph what your gonna do. This is where power comes in handy, but not to worry little man speed is power! Throw while turning your right shoulder in and slightly pivoting the hips. Practice it in front of a mirror. Look yourself in the eye and drive your hand in front of you like an assailant is there but use your chin in the mirror as aim. Practice speed and faking your self out by not telegraphing the punch. Do you understand me?

The other is the same except for closer corders. But in this one use your line first "hey Man" Then BAM, quick as lighting you open their nose up with your forehead. And on both of these be prepard to throw an immediat, i would prefer a left hook then right, but you just throw! Drink a little courage first. Good luck!

 

[p03t1c]

using the grip method is probably not your best means of attack. i would use something more like pljay. i hardly ever fight, but if i do, the fight isnt going to last very long. i will never swing at the torso. i go for the throat, the eyes, the knees, the nose, and the crotch. hit whatever breaks the easiest or whatever stuns the person. make sure you get them down on the ground. you would be surprised how many people cannot fight off the ground. being an x-wrestler, i am very comfortable being on the ground, and once i'm there, once the opponent is down. it's totally over with. all you need to do if your first blow isnt strong enough is make sure he doesnt get back up. good luck.

 

[Stapled to the Floor]

If ya cant get the punch in or if he is still standing do the old hiking/cowboy boot to the knee thing.. I acutally broke some guys patella one time after he messed with me (and I will be honest he whooped me but I was 145 lbs at this time and he was definitely over 200).. after he got the best of me he stood in my face with the finger wavin thing and I just dropped him with a heel to the knee.. I almost felt bad cus he was in excruciating pain.. (not really ) ambulance had to come get him.. heard he had a 3 hour surgery... still see him occasionally at the bar I am since 165 lbs (little bigger) and he is still the same.. rumor has it he wants to break my leg... ha...I told his friends I leave 12 midnight every time i am here so he know s where to find me if he would like a matching knee to make it a box set.. he hasnt messed with me since... sorry for the run on but in a pinch .. take out the knee.. he wont get back up...

 

[brooklynboy]

try this

fi you are insdie on a guy like powerliftjay described use your elbow not you hand. pretend you are flexing you bicep now but pull your hand in so tight it will almost touch your delt. Now an inch or so above your elbow is the sweet spot. This place is ten time more sold then you fist and you get a ton more power. drive that up like an upper cut when his teeth smash togther that is it lights out. thats why hockey players and boxers wear mouth gurads. It is not to protect their teeth bot to keep them from smaking together. If he does go down from this blow it will stand him back up take this chance and hit him rightin the eyebrow with your elbow. It probally split it right open and he is going to bleed like a son of a bitch. If he still does not go down head but his ass dead square in the nose. I you do this right noone in the bar will fuck with you or your girl again. Every one will think you are nuts and leave you shit alone. Three hits that is all it will take.

PEACE

Brooklynboy

 

[powerlifterjay]

You guys got keep in mind he cant fight. With that said he needs to keep it simple. Being an ex wrestler my self Iam just as comfortable up as i am down. I have done both, so my advice could be very technical or very simple. The fight will not last long. Wether you finish him or not. Since your small dont go outside and square off. You will die! LOL just kiddin! Anyway do like i say, you do it right, there done. If not knocked out there fuckin hurt. I can grapple well. But i have done it in a bar and got a boot acros my nose. YOu will get beat on the ground by his boys unless your boys are there and your not out numbered, (that is what happen to me). Not a comfortable feeling. I stood right up and chased that bitch down! When i got in my truck i hadnt seen a mirro but i knew i was fucked up. I didnt wanna see! Anyway that was my advice above, use it or not.

Here is another piece of advice, dont take your women to ruff bars! Good luck!

 

[powerlifterjay]

One more thing....

Not saying Brokklynboy is wrong cause he isnt. But i am a hell of an elbow thrower, but... i throw elbows down not up. If i get on top of you and commence to pumble you , you can bet it will be elbows. Even on the top of the head. I opend somone up like that. But i always throw them down. When punching up you need more speed and reach. Its to awkward (for me) to throw hard with an elbow and still be quick from a stand up straight shot. If i line up to guys hit one (both upper cuts) with an elbow and fist the fist will be much harder and way more damaging. For me.

 

[GRIMMER]

Heres another little piece of advice. A lot of guys expect their to be some type of shove before the fight starts. Fuck that. I got in a fight this weekend and before this guy even got to finish his sentence his ass was on the ground with me on top of him. I got word that he couldn't see out his eye for four days. I feel bad actually because i'm not a fighter but if i'm gonna do it i'll be the first one to throw.

 

[Deciever]

good advice everyone...

nice job grimmer... you must of really kicked his ass.

everything sounds like its good advice.. i cant really help in this subject cause i've never been in a real fight (only a few quarrels with my friends)

 

[Screwball]

I'll fight you, Deciever, if you want to. Let's kick each others asses! LOL

 

[endpoint]

I can only do 8 sets of 4 on the no1 COC.

I was helping my friend out in a fight (two guys trying to beat up my friend).I grabbed one guy: damaged tendons of the carpals and metacarpals in the guys hand and sprained his wrist. the other hand came off lucky, its his poor dislocated sholder on that arm.

I have never seen a grown man cry before.

sort of disgusted at myself....maybe misjudged the 60lb difference between us.
dont know....just helping a friend out i guess.

I think the grab, crush and twist (rotating the palms to a very bad position) helped the damage i did...not the total strength. with most things....technique seems to be the key.

 

[Kepeli]

The ol' 'headbutt in the mouth or nose' ALWAYS does the trick and it's easy to not telegraph. The closer you are, the better. I've had shit talkers almost touching their faces to mine but they never get more than a word out.

 

[WantNoFatAssHo!]

Endpoint: What are your major stats? And do you think its better to do several sets of X reps than to go to failure on all sets including the first one? Do you think you could have damaged that guys hand without the twisting movement?

I've been in the Swedish Infantry for a few years so i guess i could have knocked a sucker out in a bar.

But with the hand crush trick, no-one sees that you've hurt anyone, and thus, you dont get a lot of attention drawn to you as soon as with the elbow or headbutt.

 

[endpoint]

22
5 foot 11
216lbs
dont know what my bf% is. I dont have abs.

I dont like going to failure with hand and grip exercises....when i do i lose strength big time.....it is so easy to overtrain.

If i didnt twist i think he would still be hurt.
the wrist probably wouldnt be sprained and his sholder would be okay.

The position where i grabbed his hand helped with the crushing. It was like a reverse hand shake....he couldnt squeezeback.

I grabed everything but his thumb so my whole hand surrounded the "top" knuckels...pretty high up

 

[musclehed275]

i have to agree with PLJAY on this one, I bounced to pay my way through college, I used to have to kick some pretty nasty guys, in the bars of Tampa, out..Some of them were nasty bar fighters, Getting on the inside and smashing the jaw from an uppercut always dropped em like a wet rag!!!! I would use elbows, Like PLJAY said, downwards, you can carve there ass up this way! When you throw the close range elbow, its harder to be as acurate, yes, it is very effective, but you throw a missed blow with your elbow, then the guy has a chance to get you! And the beauty of the close range uppercut is, you dont need to be real powerful to drop them! The key is to make up your mind, AND DO IT..dont hesitate!!

 

[powerlifterjay]

Guys Musclehed275 is right you do NOT have to be big and powerful to kock someone out with an uppercut. YOu throw it without hesitation, BOOB lights out. Especially if there still talkin shit.

Here is a story just to give an example about the element of surprise.

I got caught cheating on my wife, and she was pissed. We actually split up and got divorced over it. Were back together but anyway...When i got caught she was insanly fuckin pissed! Dude's...PISSED! Now of course i would hit here and knock her out, that isnt what this is about. Its about the eliment of surprise she caught me with.

Were in the front yard and she is ragin! The neighbors are all peakin but everyone went inside to watch. I kinda a turned my head slightly to the side so i didnt have to look her in the eye, and while i was talkin guys keep in mind my wife can bust ass anyway. She fuckin hit me so freakin hard it shadered my Oakleys and as soon as she punched me (with everything she had) before i could even react she kicked me so hard in the nuts i swear on my kids i couldnt walk for 3 days. As i bent over from the blow she hit me again with a very nicely conenected Hook then sent me to the ground. As i layed there she kicked me a few times and then stopped. Now even IF i wanted to fist fight her that day (which I didnt) i was not EVER expecting that reaction from her and i couldnt have thrown back anyway. Why? Element of surprise. She made her mind up commeted to the shot and took it. They were quick and precise.

That ass beatin i took from her is still a funny topic at dinners we go to (with close friends). She is 5 ft tall and 110lbs. I never EVER thought she would hit me. Surprise!

 

[musclehed275]

Thats some funny shit PLJAY!!! MAN!! Listen to this! My ex wife, was a powerlifter also! I met my current wife, while I was still married to the ex, starting training her, well, my ex was only 5'2" And 132lbs, but she was strong as balls!! Took primo like candy! she squatted well over 300 at 132!!! She is still in the rcored books for the APA 132 305 squat, to boot, she was a black belt in karate! She caught me and my current wife talking on the phone!! This was about the same time I tore my patella tendon! The ex pick up a lazyboy chair, over her head, and threw it on me, I was laying, defensesly on the couch, with my leg elevated, in an immobilizer! Man, was I ever stunned, she then called my current wife, Ironmaiden181, and began to talk shit! We all would have paid to see that cat fight!!! But back to the topic, the ex once got pissed at me, didnt hesitate, threw a straight right, caught my jaw, and made me see stars! As I bent over, she kicked the shit out of me! Same situation, I could have just mauled her, but she didnt hesitate, had her mind made up, went on the attack! A normal man would have went down from the shot she gave me!!! Make up your mind and BOOM!! hes down! if you have time, pummell his ass with kicks and get the fuck out!

 

[Screwball]

Hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn! I would just as soon have my ass kicked by Gary Frank than mess with a pissed off woman. Pissed off women are SCARY...

 

[powerlifterjay]

Dam that is some funny shit! I dont feel quite so bad now. Its like this i did NOT expect that. The first shot i was seeing stars not to mention i was wearing Oaklyes around my head like skin. She basically fucked me up! I wont mention what else she did to me with in that hour, but lets just say i couldnt get out fast enough. I swear to god, i was truly scared for my life. She was in no way concerned for her safety, nor did she care about mine. Bad scene.

Thats funny Musclehed it is the element of surprise. Now imagine if a 250lber catches you like that. When there is shit tallking goin on i am ready. That would never happen again even with her. I know what she is capable of.

Listen here hit fast hard, and commet to the shot. If your gonna hit a dude it doesnt matter how hard if your concerned with the law. YOu hit or dont. So you might as well lay him out.

Not knocking your idea about the grip thing, but it would not work on me. Even if you did start to crush my hand i would just pull in away from you and commence to pummble you! To me the crushing of the hand is like catching someones punch in mid strike...one word...HOLLYWOOD! What if his hand is reall big. I got some meaty ass hands myself. I wear i a size 17 ring . And my wrists are clsoe to 8 inches. If your 150 lbs come on man? Even if you start to squeeze i will pull you into something. A punch, a squeeze around your neck ETC. Not only that why would yu shake a dudes hand that is hitting on your women?

 

[benchmonster]

As I often do, I find myself agreeing yet again with Jay. The hand squeeze thing would not do shit to me. I don't have real big strong hands, but I punch like a mule kicks. I prefer to punch with my left, because I care less whether it gets broken, so if you grab my right hand and try squeezing it, all you are going to get is a knuckle sandwich.

I have been in many many fights and I cannot ever remember getting hit first. To be honest I hardly get hit at all. If shit looks even remotely like it is going to get physical, I hit first, hit hard, and keep at it until it is over. I don't talk shit. I have found that if I start talking, I have a hard time switching from talking to fighting. I end up talking the damn thing out and regret it later. So that is why I don't say shit anymore. If it looks like hostility, hit the motherfucker in the mouth, kick him in his balls, choke him out and get away before you have to end up fighting everyone he knows, and possibly going to jail.

I know you only way 150. When I graduated from high school, that is about all I weighed as well. Bust ass, eat a lot, and use the right supplements and you don't have to be little anymore. You might always be short, (like myself) but you don't have to be small.

Just my 2 cents. Do whatever you want.

B.