Hamstrings first?

[furious]

I started hitting my hamstrings first in my leg workouts. My quads develop and get stronger way faster then the hams, so I decided to key on hams first. I also decided to do calves on ever other lift day BESIDES leg day. By the time I get done with 8-9 heavy leg exercises, I'm ready to puke, not do calves.
Good/ bad idea?

And, could someone please settle this argument about leg presses being either a ham or quad exercise. Me personally, I feel and see most of the effects in the hamstrings.

 

[diamonddiceclay]

leg press is for QUADS -hams and calves should be done on 1 day and quads on another

 

[rgosit]

i would split them up...

squad- with quads

deadlift with quads

 

[Island Son]

i've heard leg press with feet placed high is hamstring/glutes, lower down puts more stress on the quads. Probably more stress on your knees too.
IMHO if you can squat more than one plate (130-135), then leg press is a waste of time. Any challenging weight on the press only compresses my back painfully, yet I'm still trying to make my squat respectable.

DDC that's a good idea.. i hate lying on my quads to do hamstring curls right after leg entensions

 

[mattcanning99]

im pretty sure leg presses are mostly a quad exercise...they may have an effect on hamstrings, but i hadnt ever heard of that or experienced it, so i would say the effect is minimal (well, for me at least). but mostly quads for leg press im pretty sure. did you mean you felt soreness in your glutes from leg press, or only quads?

as far as doing hamstrings first, its always a good idea to switch things up like that, especially if you find you get better results like that. as for doing calves more often - what does that equal (how many calf sessions per week) ?

it is possible to overtrain calves, and working them more often isnt necessarily the way to get them bigger. what are your goals with calves? mass, tone? explain a bit more and i'll try to advise better.

matt